Mailman 3 May 2003 - Mailman-Users

Migrating from Listproc to mailman
by Mike Alberghini May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

Bossman just gave me the fun job of migrating 430 active lists from Listproc to mailman. It appears I can do this with some creative scripting to chew up the Listproc config files and hand the data off to the newlist, config_list and add_members scripts. Has anyone here had to jump through these hoops before? Any advice, warnings or scripts would be greatly appreciated. -- Michael Alberghini Software Systems Engineer Georgia State University mike(a)gsu.edu

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Where are the user lists?
by Kyle Rhorer May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 11:15, Raquel Rice wrote: > You're so smart, figuring that out. Perhaps, you should do my > CC:ing for me, since I can't handle it myself? Raquel, I sent that note to you off-list. I don't appreciate you sending your impertinent reply to the list. I apologized to you off-list if you misinterpreted my note, but that was before I saw that you had included the list in your reply -- I now publicly retract that apology. I have found your previous posts to the list to be informed, helpful, and friendly, which leaves me a bit puzzled about your notes from today. If you wish to discuss this matter further, please do so privately as I'm sure none of the list subscribers cares to see any more details of what is apparently turning into a personal spat over nothing. My apologies to the rest of the list, but since Raquel brought this matter public I felt I should rebut publicly. At this point I don't intend to make any more on-list comments about this matter. Kyle

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Excessive cpu usage
by Arnar Birgisson May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

Hello I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the fault? Arnar

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman
by John Grafflin May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

First step - how do I get the Mailman code from the download site to my website? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norbert Bollow" <nb(a)cisto.com> To: <jwgrafflin(a)ev1.net> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman > > Can anyone help a non-techie install Mailman? > > Yes. :-) > > Greetings, Norbert. > > -- > Founder & Steering Committee member of http://gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/ > Free Software Business Strategy Guide ---> http://FreeStrategy.info > Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) > Tel +41 1 972 20 59 Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://norbert.ch >

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Problems with hide the sender of a message
by Gabriel Mier May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

When I set to off this option: Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) I can see that the field "from" for emails is name_list@'name_domain' and I don't know how I can remove the semicolons from name_domain

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
by Arnar Birgisson May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

Hi there.. I verified this.. the MTA seems to be configured correctly. Since switching to Exim recently, mailman lists have worked as they should. As I mentioned earlier, some files are constantly being created in the out queue directory. I wasn't right when I said earlier that there was no traffic, apparently there is one message in the out queue, according to the contents of those files. What makes me unable to diagnose the problem however is that nothing shows up in neither the mailman log files nor exim's log files. Arnar >>> Raquel Rice <raquel(a)thericehouse.net> 28.5.2003 14:16:00 >>> On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:46:01 -0400 "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <guallar(a)easternrad.com> wrote: > On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:24 am, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > > Hello > > Hi > > > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that > > the mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu > > time. Nothing shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas > > of how to locate the fault? > > The problem might be the message size. Mailman parses all the > messages with python,who is a little unefficient. > > For example, on my mailman machine, messages of size=300 KB > required 300 MB of RAM for processing... and used up (+90%) the > CPU (P-III-Xeon-550). > > In my case, the solution was to reduce the message size, > > > Arnar > > > Josep The FAQ that is included in the Mailman download indicates that it could also be a problem with your MTA. Make certain that your MTA isn't set up to do DNS lookups on each address. -- Raquel ============================================================ The life of the individual only has meaning insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful. Life is sacred, that is to say, it is the supreme value to which all other values are subordinate. --Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: arnarb(a)oddi.is Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is

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bounce problem
by RandMWolf＠aol.com May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

I have just installed redhat 8.0 which comes with Mailman 2.0.13. The MTA is exim. I am having a problem with bounced (false) addresses. The list admin address is not receiving the bounced information. I checked that if I send mail to the list-admin@domain address directly , the list admin will receive the mail. What can I check into to find out why the list-admin is not receiving the bounced info ? Reuven Wolf

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
by Josep L. Guallar-Esteve May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 10:16 am, Raquel Rice wrote: > The FAQ that is included in the Mailman download indicates that it > could also be a problem with your MTA. Make certain that your MTA > isn't set up to do DNS lookups on each address. Thank you for your suggestion. I did read the FAQ and checked the MTA configuration, as well as my server settings. I went through this mailing list archives. And I found nothing. With the logs, I was able to trace wich messages were the ones causing problems. And all the problematic messages were +300 KB. I discovered it using top, watch, less and patience. Regards, Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
by Arnar Birgisson May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

Sorry for replying to my own post.. but I just noticed by watching the $prefix/qfiles/out directory.. that files are being created and removed there constantly.. still, nothing in the logs. There is however no ongoing traffic at the moment, this is a private server with few lists. My MTA is Exim 4, since recently. Arnar >>> "Arnar Birgisson" <ArnarB(a)oddi.is> 28.5.2003 14:00:35 >>> Hello.. and thanks for the response. I probably should have mentioned that there is currently no traffic on the server.. no messages are being sent and all queues are empty. Arnar >>> "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <guallar(a)easternrad.com> 28.5.2003 13:46:01 >>> On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:24 am, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > Hello Hi > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the > mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing > shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the > fault? The problem might be the message size. Mailman parses all the messages with python,who is a little unefficient. For example, on my mailman machine, messages of size=300 KB required 300 MB of RAM for processing... and used up (+90%) the CPU (P-III-Xeon-550). In my case, the solution was to reduce the message size, > Arnar Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: arnarb(a)oddi.is Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: arnarb(a)oddi.is Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
by Arnar Birgisson May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

Hello.. and thanks for the response. I probably should have mentioned that there is currently no traffic on the server.. no messages are being sent and all queues are empty. Arnar >>> "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <guallar(a)easternrad.com> 28.5.2003 13:46:01 >>> On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:24 am, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > Hello Hi > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the > mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing > shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the > fault? The problem might be the message size. Mailman parses all the messages with python,who is a little unefficient. For example, on my mailman machine, messages of size=300 KB required 300 MB of RAM for processing... and used up (+90%) the CPU (P-III-Xeon-550). In my case, the solution was to reduce the message size, > Arnar Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: arnarb(a)oddi.is Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is

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