Mailman 3 July 2003 - Mailman-Users

RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates
by Timothy Arnold 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Hi Richard, I have edited most of the template files in template/en (for our English mailing lists). They all work fine. I have even edited the header.html & footer.html for ht://Dig (btw, is there any way to configure the mailman integration to change the mailinglist.conf file to point header & footer to the lists search directory instead of $COMMON?) The only pages left to edit are the listinfo page for the 'lists of lists', the subscriber options page, and the admin interface. I cannot figure out what template files these are generated by. I looked in listinfo.py and could not find any reference to html code at all! An example: http://lists.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mailman works fine, all nice and branded but if you go to http://lists.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo, it is not branded. How do I make the lists of lists look like every other part of the site? Thanks for your help. Timothy -----Original Message----- From: Richard Barrett [mailto:r.barrett@openinfo.co.uk] Sent: 01 July 2003 19:01 To: Timothy Arnold Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates At 18:27 01/07/2003, Timothy Arnold wrote: >That's what I thought... Anyone recommend a good python book? >:) > >I presume this is the same for the subscriber options? I am trying to >make >as much of the mailman interface that the end user (subscriber) sees Becta >branded as possible. If you are using MM 2.1.2 then you will find a much of the html has been abstracted to the $prefix/templates directory language subdirectories and their brethren. Although pages are being generated by MM scripts these now tend to populate template files rather than generate HTML from scratch. You can set up/change these templates by language as follows (from the comments in $prefix/Mailman/Utils.py): <quote> # When looking for a template in a specific language, there are 4 places # that are searched, in this order: # # 1. the list-specific language directory # lists/<listname>/<language> # # 2. the domain-specific language directory # templates/<list.host_name>/<language> # # 3. the site-wide language directory # templates/site/<language> # # 4. the global default language directory # templates/<language> # # The first match found stops the search. In this way, you can specialize # templates at the desired level, or, if you use only the default # templates, you don't need to change anything. You should never modify # files in the templates/<language> subdirectory, since Mailman will # overwrite these when you upgrade. That's what the templates/site # language directories are for. </quote> Take a look at these template files and evaluate the template search hierarchy before concluding that hacking the Python code is the only way forward. >Thanks, >Timothy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] >Sent: 01 July 2003 16:56 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates > > > That is what I get for answering a question when I should not >yet > be awake. I belive that page is generated by a cgi script >(mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo), which is going to make editing a real problem. > >At 09:37 AM 7/1/2003, you wrote: > >That edits the listinfo for the list, not the list of lists... > > > >Thanks, > >Timothy. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] > >Sent: 01 July 2003 15:07 > >To: mailman-users(a)python.org > >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates > > > > > >"Timothy Arnold" wrote: > > >The problem I am having at the moment is trying to figure out how > > >to edit the main listinfo page > > >mailman.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo and the > > end >user subscription page. We would like to make the site as > > branded as > > >possible (except for admin interface). Does anyone know how to > > >achieve this? > > > > From the admin page click "Edit public HTML pages on the right > > side a little above the Logout link. > > > > > ><>< Paul > ><>< Paul > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > >This message was sent to: timothy.arnold(a)becta.org.uk Unsubscribe or >change your options at >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/timothy.arnold%40becta… > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message >has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. >www.mimesweeper.com >********************************************************************** > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > >This message was sent to: r.barrett(a)openinfo.co.uk >Unsubscribe or change your options at >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/r.barrett%40openin >fo.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Testing
by Vicky Yuen 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Testing

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not getting sent out of the system. how to change?
by flyingember＠374liberty.org 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

I have mailman setup in redhat 9. I can setup a list fine through the web interface and setup users for the list. the registered users send email to the list email and the email gets into the mailman system. (postfix mail log shows this) I now have a pair of files in /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/in that don't leave. I checked my cron logs and the mailman cron seems to be running. what do I need to look at/change now?

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Error in MassSubscription
by Bruce Embrey 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

Mailman List: I received the following traceback when trying to do a Mass Subscription from a text file. Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 169, in main change_options(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 1263, in change_options send_admin_notif, invitation) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 888, in ApprovedAddMember kind, formataddr((email, name))) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py", line 106, in formataddr return '%s%s%s <%s>' % (quotes, name, quotes, address) UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) I have been able to import other files but this file is the result raw data output from a sql query. If I copy and paste these addresses into the box I am able to add them to the list. My goal is to automate this by using the remove_memmbers to empty the list and add_members to repopulate the list nightly. Any help would be appreciated. Bruce Embrey Bruce Embrey Bruce Edward Embrey : VMS Systems Manager Campus Email Admin : UNIX / Linux Administrator Hood College : embrey(a)hood.edu : Phone (301)696-3927

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not able to access admin web interface
by Jeroen Valcke 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

Hello, Small glitch here. For one specific list I'm not able to access the online admin interface. I type the password and it just sits there. Logging in on other lists works fine. I even tried several browsers. The machine has a quite heavy load for the moment, but other list logins seem to work fine. Any ideas? -Jeroen- -- Jeroen Valcke sst(a)belnet.be jeroen.valcke(a)belnet.be

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Excessive CPU usage
by Rikard Florin 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

Hi, > Barry Warsaw did make a change in the CVS a short while ago to help deal > with this class of problem. Take a look at: > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Queu… I'm running mailman 2.1.2 and having serious problems with CPU usage, is there any chance to have a patch for the above CVS changes or something? I don't know if it's the solution to my problems, but right now mailman is eating about 80-90% of my CPU time and I have to try something. I'm not running any huge lists which would require heavy archiving or anything so the above mentioned problem seemed like a possibility, but if someone has got a better suggestion I'm all ears... :) my setup: python 2.3, postfix, mailman 2.1.2, Mac OS X 10.3 DP cheers, rikard

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates
by Richard Barrett 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

At 18:27 01/07/2003, Timothy Arnold wrote: >That's what I thought... Anyone recommend a good python book? >:) > >I presume this is the same for the subscriber options? I am trying to make >as much of the mailman interface that the end user (subscriber) sees Becta >branded as possible. If you are using MM 2.1.2 then you will find a much of the html has been abstracted to the $prefix/templates directory language subdirectories and their brethren. Although pages are being generated by MM scripts these now tend to populate template files rather than generate HTML from scratch. You can set up/change these templates by language as follows (from the comments in $prefix/Mailman/Utils.py): <quote> # When looking for a template in a specific language, there are 4 places # that are searched, in this order: # # 1. the list-specific language directory # lists/<listname>/<language> # # 2. the domain-specific language directory # templates/<list.host_name>/<language> # # 3. the site-wide language directory # templates/site/<language> # # 4. the global default language directory # templates/<language> # # The first match found stops the search. In this way, you can specialize # templates at the desired level, or, if you use only the default # templates, you don't need to change anything. You should never modify # files in the templates/<language> subdirectory, since Mailman will # overwrite these when you upgrade. That's what the templates/site # language directories are for. </quote> Take a look at these template files and evaluate the template search hierarchy before concluding that hacking the Python code is the only way forward. >Thanks, >Timothy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] >Sent: 01 July 2003 16:56 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates > > > That is what I get for answering a question when I should not yet > be awake. I belive that page is generated by a cgi script >(mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo), which is going to make editing a real problem. > >At 09:37 AM 7/1/2003, you wrote: > >That edits the listinfo for the list, not the list of lists... > > > >Thanks, > >Timothy. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] > >Sent: 01 July 2003 15:07 > >To: mailman-users(a)python.org > >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates > > > > > >"Timothy Arnold" wrote: > > >The problem I am having at the moment is trying to figure out how to > > >edit the main listinfo page mailman.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo and > > >the > > end >user subscription page. We would like to make the site as branded > > as > > >possible (except for admin interface). Does anyone know how to > > >achieve this? > > > > From the admin page click "Edit public HTML pages on the right > > side > > a little above the Logout link. > > > > > ><>< Paul > ><>< Paul > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > >This message was sent to: timothy.arnold(a)becta.org.uk Unsubscribe or >change your options at >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/timothy.arnold%40becta… > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. >www.mimesweeper.com >********************************************************************** > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > >This message was sent to: r.barrett(a)openinfo.co.uk >Unsubscribe or change your options at >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/r.barrett%40openinfo.c… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates
by Timothy Arnold 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

That's what I thought... Anyone recommend a good python book? >:) I presume this is the same for the subscriber options? I am trying to make as much of the mailman interface that the end user (subscriber) sees Becta branded as possible. Thanks, Timothy -----Original Message----- From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] Sent: 01 July 2003 16:56 To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates That is what I get for answering a question when I should not yet be awake. I belive that page is generated by a cgi script (mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo), which is going to make editing a real problem. At 09:37 AM 7/1/2003, you wrote: >That edits the listinfo for the list, not the list of lists... > >Thanks, >Timothy. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul@thcwd.com] >Sent: 01 July 2003 15:07 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates > > >"Timothy Arnold" wrote: > >The problem I am having at the moment is trying to figure out how to > >edit the main listinfo page mailman.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo and > >the > end >user subscription page. We would like to make the site as branded > as > >possible (except for admin interface). Does anyone know how to > >achieve this? > > From the admin page click "Edit public HTML pages on the right > side > a little above the Logout link. > > ><>< Paul <>< Paul ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: timothy.arnold(a)becta.org.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/timothy.arnold%40becta… ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************

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alias lists
by Bernd Petrovitsch 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

Hi all! How does one handle multiple From:-email-addresses for one person within mailman? With majordomo, there was a hack/patch to have a separate (possibly site-wide) alias-mailinglist which is used for the list membership test (and administered similar to an ordinary mailinglist), but never sent mail to. Thanks in advance Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ Embedded Linux Development and Services

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Unknown Encoding Problem
by Sean Preston 01 Jul '03

01 Jul '03

Hi I have a mailman server running 2.1.2. There is a list on the server setup which we are attempting to post Thai language messages. I keep seeing the following sorts of entries in the error log file: Jul 01 17:38:00 2003 (31941) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: windows-874 Jul 01 17:38:00 2003 (31941) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 75, in process prefix_subject(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 262, in prefix_subject h.append(s, c) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 285, in append s = s.encode(outcodec, errors) LookupError: unknown encoding: windows-874 Jul 01 17:38:00 2003 (31941) SHUNTING: 1057066240.925378+c2d65d390f6a7b805c6436a8b76470a742c6a513 What would I need to do to fix this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sean

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