Mailman 3 August 2003 - Mailman-Users

sync_members error (bug 666235)
by mailings＠good-it.com 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Hi all! I ran in to problems with sync_members. Thanks to this list i found out very quickly what my problem is (see bug 666235). The problem is now that i don't understand anything from python and the solution look like a lot of python abracadabra to me. Is there a straightforward explanation what exactly to do? Thanks in advance! -- Kind Regards / Met vriendelijke groet, Johan Barelds

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newlist fails when not root user
by christmasboy_81＠juno.com 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

bblist@jasmine:~$ newlist Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist", line 223, in ? main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist", line 118, in main os.setgid(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GID) OSError: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted bblist@jasmine:~$ groups bblist list list is GID 38 which is what MAILMAN_GID is. I'm using Debian Woody (mailman 2.0.11, exim 3.35, python 2.1.3). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I should be able to change my gid from one group that I'm a member of to another? Is there any way to let a normal user create lists? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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question regarding confirmation
by Paul H Byerly 31 Aug '03

31 Aug '03

Aviram Carmi wrote: >the confirmation message when a user received when they join, says to > >"simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact." > >however, replying to the message, by default ads "Re:" to the subject >which caused the confirmation to be rejected by mailman. see below. > >Replying again, after removeing the "Re:" worked, and I got the >"welcome" message. > >Shouldn't mailman be smarter and recognize the "Re:"? > >I'll bet that most users will just hit "reply" which (at least on my >email client Eudora 5.2.1 under MacOS 9.2.2) adds an "Re:" to the >subject line. I'm running the same version of Eudora under Windows, and do not have this problem. Either something else is happening when your reply is sent, or something is configured wrong on the Mailman end. <>< Paul

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Problem with setting users to 'delivery off'
by Christian Schoepplein 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Hello! Users on my server can't deactivate maildelivery for their listmails via email :-(. They sent a mail to listname-request(a)my.domain with the following tow commands: set authenticate password set delivery off A mail came back that said that option delivery was set, but the users still get mails from the list. If they deactivate delivery via their personal mailmanwebpage, delivery was turned off succesfuly. Is this a known problem or do they something wrong? We run mailman 2.1.2 with postfix 2.0.12. Ciao, Schoeppi -- Christian Schoepplein | Beste Rockband der Welt: http://www.lily-rockt.de mail(a)schoeppi.net | Linux fuer Blinde: http://www.blinux.suse.de

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What are listmoderators allowed to do?
by Christian Schoepplein 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Hello! I have some lists that have different people for administration and moderation. No I wonder, what things listmoderators are allowed to do? For example listadmins have no problem to set users to nomail by using mailman's webinterface, but how about the moderators? Are they able to disable maildelivery for some listmembers too? Is it possible to allow moderators the access only for the webbased usermanagement of the lists? Is there somewhere a documentation about the things a moderator is allowed to do and how this things can be done? Best regards and thanks, Schoeppi -- Christian Schoepplein | Beste Rockband der Welt: http://www.lily-rockt.de mail(a)schoeppi.net | Linux fuer Blinde: http://www.blinux.suse.de

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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users]@thcwd htdig error
by Paul H Byerly 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Richard Barrett wrote: >On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 08:27 pm, Paul H Byerly wrote: > > > I've got ht://dig working nicely, but I get an error message each time > > the nightly cron job runs: > > > > From: root(a)svr01.thcwd.com (Cron Daemon) > > To: mailman(a)svr01.thcwd.com > > Subject: Cron <mailman@svr01> /usr/local/bin/python2.2 -S > > /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig > > X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/sh> > > X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/var/mailman> > > X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/usr/bin:/bin> > > X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=mailman> > > > > /bin/sort: /opt/www/htdig/db/sort99SAvz: Permission denied > > htmerge: Word sort failed > > > > /bin/sort: /opt/www/htdig/db/sortTjcbiZ: Permission denied > > htmerge: Word sort failed > > > > > > The cron job and /opt/www/htdig/db/ both have the permissions > > root:mailman . The /opt/www/htdig/db/ has no files in it. My > > /opt/www/htdig/conf/htdig.conf reads: > > > > database_dir: /opt/www/htdig/db > > > >When rundig is executed by nightly_htdig it uses the -c option so that >the per-list htdig configuration file found as >$prefix/archives/private/<listname>/htdig/<listname>.conf is used. That was my understanding, and clearly that is being done. > > My individual list folders > > (../mailman/archives/private/<LISTNAME>/htdig/) have the proper files > > and they update correctly. Everything seems to run correctly. Is > > this ht://dig "going back to it's roots" and trying to do something I > > have no need for? > > >Take a look at the /opt/www/htdig/bin/rundig shell script. > >My rundig, as installed by the standard htdig 3.1.6 build default, >takes the default $DBDIR from the build and nominates it as the $TMPDIR >when running htmerge. I have the same thing. >This probably explains why htmerge is using that >directory for temporary sort files. Ah, so I see nothing because they are cleared after it runs. Okay. >Why you are seeing the permissions failure if the cron job is being run >from the mailman uid's crontab, It is: -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 1556 Aug 20 21:07 crontab.in and /usr/local/mailman/cron/crontab.in reads in part: # At 2:19am every night, regenerate htdig search files. Only # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and htdig # use enabled in mm_cfg.py with USE_HTDIG 19 2 * * * /usr/local/bin/python2.2 -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig > and if that uid has write permissions >over the /opt/www/htdig/db directory, drwxr-xr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Aug 20 21:38 db >is more of a mystery. You could >try modifying the rundig script to try using another area like /tmp >(but note the cautions in the rundig script's comments) and see if that >resolves the problem. Why do I have a feeling this is one more bane of Ensim's chrooted environment? I am not seeing any failures of the search engine, but maybe I've just not run across them? I'm getting different things each day, and some days more than one. What do the failures mean/tell me? The last 5 days are: /bin/sort: /opt/www/htdig/db/sortT8E1SH: Permission denied htmerge: Word sort failed ../sortu9ljsc ../sort62TlPS ../sort99SAvz sortTjcbiZ ../sortmlhFd4 BTW, when I run form the command line I don't get these errors. <>< Paul

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maildir support
by Klavs Klavsen 30 Aug '03

30 Aug '03

Hi guys, I'm new to Mailman and I can see from the Defaults.py that it supports mailman, and from the lists I gather it just started doing so a few months ago. What are the experiences with it? Mailman doesn't get new releases very often (2.1.2 has lasted for quite some time now) so that would seem no bugs have been found in the maildir support - but ofcourse it could just be that no one is using it :) Thanks for a great piece of software, I hope will stay with me for many years to come :) -- Regards, Klavs Klavsen, GSEC - kl(a)vsen.dk - http://www.vsen.dk PGP: 7E063C62/2873 188C 968E 600D D8F8 B8DA 3D3A 0B79 7E06 3C62 See my new CMS Hosting Service at http://www.VirkPaaNettet.dk Working with Unix is like wrestling a worthy opponent. Working with windows is like attacking a small whining child who is carrying a .38.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems setting up mailman
by Jason Williams 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Nevermind...think I figuredit out...I just used the command line scripts... Just a few quick questions: Im running postfix on this server...what do I need to do, if anything, to configure mailman and postfix to work together correctly? I have not been able to find anything as far as documentation so far... Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you. Jason At 12:09 PM 8/29/2003 -0700, you wrote: >At 11:52 AM 8/29/2003 -0700, you wrote: >>Hello everyone... >> >>Well, im in the process of setting up Mailman on my server... >>The server is running RH 8.0. >>I went ahead and downloaded the RPM from Red Hat and it installed Apache >>as well... >> >>I followed the directions in the httpd-mailman.conf file and copied it >>over to my httpd.conf >> >>I fired up apache and went to http://localhost/mailman >> >>And was prompted with the page... >> >>Where I am now having problems is how to setup my lists... >> >>I have been reading through the README file that comes with the tarball, >>and tried going to: http://localhost/mailman/create but I get a page not >>found... >> >>So im missing something and not sure what it is... >> >>Can anyone help me out? >> >>I appreciate it. >> >>Jason >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------ >>Mailman-Users mailing list >>Mailman-Users(a)python.org >>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >>Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> >>This message was sent to: jwilliams(a)courtesymortgage.com >>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jwilliams%40courtesymo… > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > >This message was sent to: jwilliams(a)courtesymortgage.com >Unsubscribe or change your options at >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jwilliams%40courtesymo…

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Mailman and Postfix install
by Jason Williams 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Hello everyone... Well, I took the advice of some people on this list and im ditching the RH rpm that I used and im going to compile mailman from source...better anyway.. I just have two questions I need clarified: --with-mail-gid=<group-or-groups> From reading this, I should set the group the group I specified for postfix correct? In that case, the group I created was postfix...so just postfix? --with-cgi-gid=<group-or-groups> Simple enough...using apache, apache is the winner.. Last part: Do I need to recompile postfix at all to get mailman and postfix to work together? Or is there another option to get these two compiled? Thanks for your help... Jason

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disable subject_prefix, and log location
by Peter Hessler 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

I want to create lists that have a null subject_prefix. When I do so, my messages seem to disappear into the ether. How can I set this? On, another topic, where are the logs for mailman, other than /var/spool/mailman/logs/*? Postfix claims it delivered a message to ("|/usr/local/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist"), but I see no record of any such message in /var/spool/mailman/logs/* -- Not only is this incomprehensible, but the ink is ugly and the paper is from the wrong kind of tree. -- Professor W., EECS, George Washington University

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