Mailman 3 August 2003 - Mailman-Users

Posting from the archives - lists sender, but not list
by Paul H Byerly 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Anita Lewis wrote: >We have the new version of mailman on a webhost which uses cpanel. I note >that now there is the feature of responding to emails from the archives. This >will be very handy for some of our subscribers. As this is not a feature of Mailman I assume cpanel is responsible? Kind of ironic, I've spent months working on a way to do just this, and now I am thinking seriously about moving to a cpanel server. <>< Paul

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Re: OSIRUSOFT
by Don Levey 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

-----Original Message----- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:25:42 -0500 From: Paul H Byerly <paul(a)thcwd.com> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Osirusoft blocking all IPs To: mailman-users(a)python.org Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030827132121.0199b940(a)mail.themarriagebed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I realize this is not a Mailman issue, but it may be causing some Mailman systems to reject all mail. If you are using relays.osirusoft.com it's rejecting all e-mail. <>< Paul, who has his mail flowing again ********************************************* Osirusoft has been under a VERY heavy DDoS attack for a while now. In order to reduce traffic, Joe set things up so that legitimate users of his service would cease - all that leaves left is the terrorist attack, which can now be analysed. The underlying lists from which he drew his information are still there: SPEWS, for one, is still in operation. I personally salute Joe for his valiant effort over the past few years; making these lists available has meant that I've blocked many thousands of spam messages, with only one false-positive in the bunch. There are some who ignorantly blame Joe for problems in their own server, their ISP, or the listing criteria on the lists he used; they fail to see that we as mail server operators have the final say on who uses our resources. Lists such as the Osirusoft relay list have had a significant impact on spam; otherwise, they'd never have been hit as hard as they are, because the spammers wouldn't be afraid. Keep in mind also that it's these criteria that have given Mailman some of the features that allow it to be a good netizen - in particular, the confirmation option. No-one should ever be added to a mailing list without their knowledge and consent. It's the lists that DON'T do this that get their IPs blacklisted. The spammers and electronic terrorists perpetrating this attack have failed to foresee two things: the rise of multiple alternate lists, and the reactivation of individual blocklists. It's much easier to get off of one centrally-maintained list than it is to get off of thousands of individually-maintained lists, especially when the admins are overworked and vindictive... -Don

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mailman questions
by Aviram Carmi 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Hi all, I am looking for a mailing list manager for my customers. here are my basic requirements: works with mailscanner to filter out spam/viruses to/from the list allow multiple virtual domains and multiple lists per domain, since I host several domain names be secure so that the list cannot be hijacked by spammers easy for me to use/admin/setup/trouble shoot has web interface with multiple admins for each virtual domain/list, so that my customers can maintain/manage their own lists web based archives with multiple threads per mailing list auto bounce deletion these are the mlm that I found while searching the net yesterday: mailman http://www.list.org/ mojo http://mojo.skazat.com/ ecartis (formerly listar) http://www.ecartis.org/ sympa http://www.sympa.org/ fml http://www.fml.org/ procmail/smartlist http://www.procmail.org/ listproc http://sourceforge.net/projects/listproc/ ezmlm http://ezmlm.enderunix.org/ majordomo http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ Thanks, -avi -- Aviram Carmi Owner Executive Vice President, Technology Over TheNet (R) 601 Daily Drive Suite #226 Camarillo, CA 93010-5840 http://www.otn.com/ Building Profitable Web Sites Today (805) 384-1144 Voice (805) 384-9111 FAX (C) Copyright 2003, Over TheNet (R) All rights reserved.

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Admin Emails
by Scott Coats 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Is there a way to administer Mailman with emails? instead of the web interface. -- R. Scott Coats Manager of Information Technology Machine & Welding Supply Company 910.980.6150 Direct 910.980.6450 Fax 910.892.4016 Main #

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Footer ?
by n3me 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Hello friends, My "Footers" are being sent to our mailing list participants as "Attachments" rather than being inserted into the message text. Please advise what I setup incorrectly and what I must change to have the "footer" placed at the bottom of the e-mail message text. Thank you for your assistance. - Tony -

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(no subject)
by kpert＠tcml.com 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Looking for expert mailman administrator and user who can train.

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Osirusoft blocking all IPs
by Paul H Byerly 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

I realize this is not a Mailman issue, but it may be causing some Mailman systems to reject all mail. If you are using relays.osirusoft.com it's rejecting all e-mail. <>< Paul, who has his mail flowing again

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Posting from the archives - lists sender, but not list
by Anita Lewis 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

We have the new version of mailman on a webhost which uses cpanel. I note that now there is the feature of responding to emails from the archives. This will be very handy for some of our subscribers. For some reason only the sender's name is listed to reply to. Howevery, when I reply by clicking on that sender's name, it actually sends to the list. That is where I want the messages sent, but it is confusing to the users to have it look as though the reply will go to the sender. I cannot find out what is causing this. It doesn't seem to be a setting that I can adjust. I have seen this feature working properly on debian-users(a)lists.debian.org where one may reply to sender, list, or both. I found some helpful things in the FAQ, but not an answer to this. Thanks, Anita

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Re: archive clean-up?
by Will Froning 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

~mailman/bin/list_owners -w OR ~mailman/bin/list_admins -a On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:02:00 -0400 mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: > From: Tim Tyler <tyler(a)beloit.edu> > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Reply-To: tyler(a)beloit.edu > Subject: [Mailman-Users] archive clean-up? > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:41:24 -0500 (CDT) > > Mailman users, > I have seen the faq that discuss how to remove archives, etc. > However, it > seem rather manual intensive to truncate archives down to 1 year or > any particular time period. Does anyone have a utility or script that > can take different Mailman lists and truncate the archives down to a > specified time period? > Also, is there a quick way to identify all of the list owners? I > have > over 100 lists and I don't know how to find the list owners without > logging into each list administration page. -thanks! > > -- > Tim Tyler > Network Manager - Beloit College > tyler(a)beloit.edu -- Will Froning Unix Sys. Admin. (209)946-7470 (209)662-4725 wfroning(a)uop.edu

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Mystery resends
by Mike Dustan 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Hi All: I'm running Mailman 2.1.2 with a Postfix MTA on Mac OS X Sserver and have had several complaints about duplicate messages. Seems that some (but not all) people on a list are receiving occasional resends of old messages from a week or two ago. This happens on most of my lists. There seems to be no common factor among the recipients, the messages, the timing or the lists. Occasionally a postfix restart seems to provoke it but not always. Any ideas where I should look? Thanks! -- -- Mike Dustan, Computing Operations & Tech. Support, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada. Web: http://www.sfu.ca/ots/ I'm never wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but I was wrong.

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