Mailman 3 November 2004 - Mailman-Users

Stopping all moderation
by Dan Newcombe 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

Is there a way of disabling any sorts of moderation for a list? We run a lot of lists for classes, faculty, etc... They are set so only members can post to it (and all others are rejected just fine.) However, we also try to convince them to put attachments on web sites and just send links to those files, so we have a size limit on messages. However, I can find no way to reject those messages outright - they always get sent for moderation and the poster gets a message saying it is being considered. I would prefer it got dropped and the poster told the message was too big. Is there a simple way to do this? Or even a patch? Or a push in the right direction to modify the source (guess I'll have to learn Python :) Thanks! -Dan

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Update: LDAP Membership Adaptor V3.0
by martin.whinnery＠blueyonder.co.uk 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

Quick Note. Barry's changes to the MemberAdaptor interface broke my hooky code. So there's a new version: "This is a read-only LDAP membership adaptor for mailman. Erik Forsberg has developed an LDAP adaptor which populates list membership based upon an attribute value held on the user entry. Most of the code here is his, I've modified it to use group membership to populate the lists. So instead of looking for people who have a particular "member-of-list" attribute set ( Eriks' model ), we list people specified as attributes of a particular group. I suspect this is slightly more efficient, LDAP-wise, as it involves fetching one entry ( the group ), rather than searching all people for those with a 'member-of-list' attribute value. This is likely to be irrelevant, as your choice of which model to use will more likely be constrained by your existing LDAP structure .... It implements a read-only membership interface for a list, implemented as generically as possible, in an attempt to handle in a friendly way the various ways people handle grouping in general and mail grouping in particular with LDAP. This adaptor only handles membership information. It gets membership information from LDAP groups, and will recurse into groups within groups." It's here: http://webserver.offal.homelinux.org/LDAPMemberAdaptor/V3.0/LDAPMemberAdapt…

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Checking up on state of Virtual Hosts feature
by Matthew England 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

At 11/1/2004 10:20 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >See >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=300103&func=detail&aid=94… >There is no plan to include this in 2.1 stable branch. It may be in >mailman 3.0 or later. Thanks for this info. Seems like good news. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=300103&func=detail&aid=94… Does anyone have the above patch working for Mailman 2.1.5 with significant testing and confidence? On a Redhat 9 system (the one I'm using), perhaps? The patch says it's running Mailman rev "2.1.1-5.1 Debian stable", something that I'm assuming is a source brance off of 2.1.1 specifically for Debian systems. Can anyone elaborate more on this version of Mailman and how it differs with respect to the 2 patched files (bin/newlist and Mailman/MailList.py)? To quote the patch link: " We developped a reliable solution for running lists with the same name on different domains on the same Mailman installation. I implemented that on top of the Mailman 2.1.1-5.1 Debian stable package. All that is needed is to patch 2 files (bin/newlist, Mailman/MailList.py) in the mailman install... " -Matt

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Checking up on state of Virtual Hosts feature
by Matthew England 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

I'm using Mailman 2.1.5 on a system hosting many ("virtual") domains all with different Mailman-based list namespaces. Before I haul off and create a Mailman installation for each domain (on my one server/host), and presumably creating a whole slew of redundant mailman processes (presumably??), I'd like to check on the state of the Virtual Host feature. ie, have any patches come to fruition that would allow "true" virtual hosting as per below? Are there any plans to add this functionality in the near future? In an associated question, I presume that each different mailman installation (eg, /home/mailman.domain1.com, /home/mailman.domain2.com) will create separate control scripts (eg, /etc/init.d/mailman.domain1.com, /etc/init.d/mailman.domain2.com). Is this all correct? Virtual-Host reference: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.047.htp Excerpt: With unmodified, standard Mailman source code, there is a single namespace for list names shared by all virtual host supported by a given Mailman installation. Multiple installations on the same machine can be used to avoid the list naming restrictions this creates. -Matt

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automating user subscription
by Jeremiah Jester 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

I have a simple php webform that I would like users to fill out and have it automatically subscribe them to a particular mailman list on my server. The form needs to be seperate from the default mailman subscription page as I will need to have it have many other feilds as well as to output its contents into a mysql database. Is there a plain text config file that I can simply append an email address too every time the form is executed? If not, any other suggestions? Or maybe mailman has the capability to read its subscription list from a mysql database? I appreciate your help! Thanks, JJ

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Mail stuck in Exim queue
by Adrian Cooper 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

Hi, We have a new RH Linux/cPanel/WHM installation including Mailman. I have moved several lists to Mailman from other servers. We have a very frustrating problem in that only a very members if the list are receiving email, the remainder being stuck in the Exim queue. I assume this must be a common problem, and there is a fix for it? I would be grateful to know what it is! Very pleased with Mailman apart from that and look forward to using it for further lists once this one is solved. Thanks. Best regards, Adrian Cooper.

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Question about 2.1.5 Install
by Branden Simbeck 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

I have a server using a chrooted environment for my various websites (running 3 websites). Specificly I am running an a red hat server with ensim basic. Are there any modiciations to Mailman 2.1.5, outside the regular configuration, to make it work in a chrooted environement. Branden ----------------------- Branden Simbeck Director, Information Technology Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Association www.pcosupport.org <http://www.pcosupport.org/> Phone: (724) 449-0237

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change in servers
by Dr. Jones 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

I have a couple mail lists on my system, which worked with my prior ISP and server. I have a different ISP now, and need to figure out how to switch them over to run on the new ISP. How do I do this? scott -- Dr. Scott S. Jones Hands-On Chiropractic IRC: irc.freenode.net #utah Yahoo: sanchiro12

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Sender details and anonymous list
by Miles Waller 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

Hi, I have set up an anonymous list - it's for announcements from a central team to subscribers only, no discussions. It's all working great, exactly as required ... with one tiny problem. The anonymous list correctly removes the details of who in the team sent the message, and replaces it with the lists email address. I have been asked to set this so that it is a specific name, rather than the address. I.e, in their mail clients, users will see: From: The company's biggest boss instead of From: announcements(a)example.com Having spent some time looking, I'm fairly sure this isn't possible in mailman at the moment: the choices are either the mailing list, or the original sender. Can anyone confirm definitively? I am using version 2.1.2. Thanks in advance, Miles

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Pig at the wedding question/diatribe
by Stewart Dean 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

<scraping sound of soapbox being pulled up> I really, /really/ appreciate applications that build into a single binary or a very few files, that can be built on a (different) build and test host, then copied over to the production when everything is thrashed out and ripe...you know, like Pine and UoW IMAP. I like it because: = it keeps the production host clean, = updates are MUCH more manageable, = you don't have a compiler on the production host to give hackers a way to build nasty things on your production machines, = You know when you remove/replace the single/very few files, you've got everything cleaned out/replaced. = there's prolly other things that don't come to mind right now. I have just gotten to page three of INSTALL and it seems like This Will Not Be The Case With Mailman. Tell me it isn't so. I guess I'm just hopelessly behind-the-times in not wanting the installation fairy sprinkling files here and there and generally making heavy local dependencies. I never wanted to be a Hero-Wizard (who maintains the smooth running balance of the Code Forges of Magrathea by mighty, arcane & stupendous acts of magic...and ends up wasted), I didn't want to own, feed and take care of five elephants and a steam engine, I Just Wanted A Mailing List Manager... Augustine's Law #405: Anything that isn't in a design won't break http://wallofjokes.shacknet.nu/Misc/AugustiL.html Or tell me how wonderful it is............ <grumble, grumble> send hate mail to the address below -- ==== Stewart Dean, Unix System Admin, Henderson Computer Resources Center of Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York 12504 sdean(a)bard.edu voice: 845-758-7475, fax: 845-758-7035

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