Mailman-Users March 2004

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Membership Management And Other Problems.
by multimedia-fan＠myrealbox.com 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

Greetings, I cannot "Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible" to on, in the membership management section in any list. I have set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1 In /Mailman/mm_cfgy.py But still have the same problem. Also I cannot set or unset digest for all users, any thing I overlooked? This was happening before the changes made in the next issue explained below. In the last couple of days we had to reconfigure reverse mapping in DNS for the server, and now the URLs that Mailman builds in the list admin and info pages are pointing to the old host name, is there a way of correcting this, without re-installing mailman from scratch? Any pointers, clues will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance.

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[Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] .signature to posts]
by Solignani Tiziano 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

Charles Sebold said: > On 24 Shevat 5762, Clark Cooper wrote: > >> Is there a way in Mailman to append text to each posts as done with a >> .signature file? > > On the web admin interface, go to page "Regular-member (non-digest) > Options" and change the option labeled "Footer added to mail sent to > regular list members". Is that what you were after? > -- > Charles Sebold 25th of Shevat, BTW how can I add taglines, i.e. random strings picked frpm a text file where they lies every one on a separate line. ALmost every list manager has tag lines administration, but I did not find them in mailman... Cheers, ---- Avv. Tiziano Solignani via Bonesi n. 15 - Vignola (MO) tel. 059 76.19.26 - fax 059 77.04.535 mail: solignani(a)solignani.it web: http://www.solignani.it chat: avv_tiziano_solignani(a)hotmail.com PC Open magazine - www.pcopen.agepe.it "rarest jewel is a true heart" -- ---- Avv. Tiziano Solignani via Bonesi n. 15 - Vignola (MO) tel. 059 76.19.26 - fax 059 77.04.535 mail: solignani(a)solignani.it web: http://www.solignani.it chat: avv_tiziano_solignani(a)hotmail.com PC Open magazine - www.pcopen.agepe.it "rarest jewel is a true heart"

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Where is 'reject' message stored
by Warren Hoffman 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

One of my associates set up content filters to reject attachments and other things. He created a custom message to explain this. Now he wants to change the message, but I cannot locate which file in /mailman holds the text (and I did look at all of them). Can somebody tell me how I could find it. I do know text fragments. Thanks!!! --Warren

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Upgrade hell (Debian)
by Deirdre Saoirse Moen 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

Upgrade script broke (not the first time). from Mailman import MailList from Mailman.LockFile import TimeOutError from Mailman.i18n import _ I'm getting error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/update", line 51, in ? from Mailman.i18n import _ ImportError: No module named i18n It doesn't balk on the line before, so it doesn't seem to be a path issue. When I comment that line out (for grins), it balks on: from Mailman.Queue.Switchboard import Switchboard from Mailman import OldStyleMemberships from Mailman.MemberAdaptor import BYBOUNCE, ENABLED Any clues? -- _Deirdre http://deirdre.net "Cannot run out of time. There is infinite time. You are finite. Zathras is finite. This....is wrong tool." -- Zathras

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RE: [Mailman-Users] changing ISP servers
by Jon Carnes 06 Jul '04

06 Jul '04

Even Cpanel should let Mailman dump out the user lists for you. There is a Mailman commandline that specifically does that (list_members). The command to dump out your configuration to text is config_list. Your admin can dump the config out, edit the fields that change (URL and default host names - the list name, if that changes) then simply create a list with the same name and upload the config file using config_list again. It's almost a "no brainer" once you read the help that comes with config_list. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 23:16, Pastor Augie wrote: > Jon, > > thanks for your reply. I've passed along your message to my ISP - he's > pretty responsive... we'll see what he says. > > Unfortunately, we *do* use cPanel ... and this is NOT the first problem > we've had... funny you should mention that! Sometimes our messages get > stuck in queue and don't come out for days if at all. > > Anyway, I don't have command line access and am not even sure where the > files for mailman are. They don't appear to be in our user directory. If > you could tell me the name of the file to look for, I could direct the > sysadmin to look for it. > > But just double checking - there is no way to export email addresses and > names? Then it would be a simple matter to re-import them. > > Thanks for all your help! > > Augie. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Carnes [mailto:jonc@nc.rr.com] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 7:41 PM > To: pastor(a)SavingGraceLC.org > Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] changing ISP servers > > > On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 10:33, Pastor Augie wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have several mailman lists setup. Because of technical difficulties > > with our ISP's physical server, I am being required to migrate our > > entire website, including lists, to a new server (new IP and new > > name). My ISP contact tells me that when the mailman lists are moved > > to the new server they will need to be RECREATED FROM SCRATCH!! > > > > Is that the case? What is the most desirable way to migrate to a new > > server? Is there a simple export feature or some flat (or db) file I > > can export or something like that so I don't have to recreate the list > > by hand?? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Augie. > > > > Well, if they are using a straight version of Mailman then the answer is > false. It's very easy to move lists to a new server. > > It may be that they are actually using Cpanel (or will be using Cpanel). > This app does "who-knows-what" to Mailman. Actually we know a few > things it does, thanks to the many, many complaints we receive on a > regular basis from folks stuck using Cpanel. > > Even then, the movements of the lists can be relatively painless - if > they allow you command line access to dump out your list configurations > into text files. > > Good luck - Jon Carnes > > >

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Problem with Sendmail SMTP-AUTH and Mailman
by Christopher Tyler 26 Jun '04

26 Jun '04

I had Mailman working fine with Sendmail up until I enabled SMTP-AUTH in Sendmail. The messages get to Mailman but are not delivered to the list members anymore because Mailman does not authenticate. Disabling SMTP-AUTH is not an option as we are an ISP and have users that require email on the road and such, and we do not wish to be blacklisted as an open relay. There aren't any messages in the archive that deal with this specifically, so my question is what EXACTLY do I have to do to get it to work with SMTP-AUTH. I have included my sendmail.mc file for review. I am running Fedora Core 1 with the latest stable versions of Sendmail and Mailman. Mailman is set to deliver to SMTPdirect if that is any help. SENDMAIL.MC -------------------------------- divert(-1)dnl dnl # dnl # This is the sendmail macro config file for m4. If you make changes to dnl # /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, you will need to regenerate the dnl # /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file by confirming that the sendmail-cf package is dnl # installed and then performing a dnl # dnl # make -C /etc/mail dnl # include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl VERSIONID(`setup for Red Hat Linux')dnl OSTYPE(`linux')dnl dnl # dnl # Uncomment and edit the following line if your outgoing mail needs to dnl # be sent out through an external mail server: dnl # dnl define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp.your.provider') dnl # define(`confDEF_USER_ID',``8:12'')dnl dnl define(`confAUTO_REBUILD')dnl define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST',true)dnl define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES',true)dnl define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/bin/procmail')dnl define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl dnl define(`STATUS_FILE', `/etc/mail/statistics')dnl define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `2000000')dnl define(`confUSERDB_SPEC', `/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl dnl # dnl # The following allows relaying if the user authenticates, and disallows dnl # plaintext authentication (PLAIN/LOGIN) on non-TLS links dnl # define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS',`A') TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH',`/usr/share/ssl/certs')dnl define(`confCACERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt')dnl define('confSERVER_CERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl FEATURE(delay_checks)dnl dnl # dnl # PLAIN is the preferred plaintext authentication method and used by dnl # Mozilla Mail and Evolution, though Outlook Express and other MUAs do dnl # use LOGIN. Other mechanisms should be used if the connection is not dnl # guaranteed secure. dnl # dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl dnl # dnl # Rudimentary information on creating certificates for sendmail TLS: dnl # make -C /usr/share/ssl/certs usage dnl # dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH',`/usr/share/ssl/certs') dnl define(`confCACERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt') dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem') dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY',`/usr/share/ssl/certs/sendmail.pem') dnl # dnl # This allows sendmail to use a keyfile that is shared with OpenLDAP's dnl # slapd, which requires the file to be readble by group ldap dnl # dnl define(`confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL',`groupreadablekeyfile')dnl dnl # dnl define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `4h')dnl dnl define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `5d')dnl dnl define(`confQUEUE_LA', `12')dnl dnl define(`confREFUSE_LA', `18')dnl define(`confTO_IDENT', `0')dnl dnl FEATURE(delay_checks)dnl FEATURE(`no_default_msa',`dnl')dnl FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl FEATURE(`mailertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable.db')dnl FEATURE(`virtusertable',`hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db')dnl FEATURE(redirect)dnl FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl dnl # dnl # The -t option will retry delivery if e.g. the user runs over his quota. dnl # FEATURE(local_procmail,`',`procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')dnl FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -T<TMPF> -o /etc/mail/access.db')dnl FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl EXPOSED_USER(`root')dnl dnl # dnl # The following causes sendmail to only listen on the IPv4 loopback address dnl # 127.0.0.1 and not on any other network devices. Remove the loopback dnl # address restriction to accept email from the internet or intranet. dnl # dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl dnl # dnl # The following causes sendmail to additionally listen to port 587 for dnl # mail from MUAs that authenticate. Roaming users who can't reach their dnl # preferred sendmail daemon due to port 25 being blocked or redirected find dnl # this useful. dnl # DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission, Name=MSA, M=Ea')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Name=MSA, M=Ea')dnl dnl # dnl # The following causes sendmail to additionally listen to port 465, but dnl # starting immediately in TLS mode upon connecting. Port 25 or 587 followed dnl # by STARTTLS is preferred, but roaming clients using Outlook Express can't dnl # do STARTTLS on ports other than 25. Mozilla Mail can ONLY use STARTTLS dnl # and doesn't support the deprecated smtps; Evolution <1.1.1 uses smtps dnl # when SSL is enabled-- STARTTLS support is available in version 1.1.1. dnl # dnl # For this to work your OpenSSL certificates must be configured. dnl # dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=TLSMTA, M=s')dnl dnl # dnl # The following causes sendmail to additionally listen on the IPv6 loopback dnl # device. Remove the loopback address restriction listen to the network. dnl # dnl # NOTE: binding both IPv4 and IPv6 daemon to the same port requires dnl # a kernel patch dnl # dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`port=smtp,Addr=::1, Name=MTA-v6, Family=inet6')dnl dnl # dnl # We strongly recommend not accepting unresolvable domains if you want to dnl # protect yourself from spam. However, the laptop and users on computers dnl # that do not have 24x7 DNS do need this. dnl # dnl FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl dnl # dnl FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX')dnl dnl # dnl # Also accept email sent to "localhost.localdomain" as local email. dnl # LOCAL_DOMAIN(`localhost.localdomain')dnl dnl # dnl # The following example makes mail from this host and any additional dnl # specified domains appear to be sent from mydomain.com dnl # dnl MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.com')dnl dnl # dnl # masquerade not just the headers, but the envelope as well dnl # dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl dnl # dnl # masquerade not just @mydomainalias.com, but @*.mydomainalias.com as well dnl # dnl FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain)dnl dnl # dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(localhost)dnl dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(localhost.localdomain)dnl dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(mydomainalias.com)dnl dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(mydomain.lan)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl MAILER(procmail)dnl -- Christopher Tyler Operations Manager Nexlink Communications, Inc. http://www.nexlinkinc.net (417) 520-0670

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Re: mm_stats question
by Jon Carnes 02 May '04

02 May '04

I just double checked and it works fine on all my sites... Do you have any lists with "=" in the name? If that is the case, then you would need to modify the first line and add in an additional cut: SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2- -d, | \ cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,` k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done echo " Total bytes" = $k >> $TMPFILE This additional cut will remove the listname from the line before using the "=" to isolate the size of the message If that doesn't do it for you, then drop a copy of your post log and the name of the list with the problems and I'll see what needs to be modified. Hope this is helpful - Jon Carnes On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 10:24, Al Black wrote: > Hi Jon, > > I trying out the mm_stats script you wrote (see > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg15378.html) and > have a couple of little bugs you might be able to help me with. I'm using > version 2.1.4 of mailman. > > I get two errors running the script from command line. > > The first is: > > ===: not found > > I'm pretty sure this happens when the script hits a list we have that has > no traffic. > > The second one is the one I'm more concerned with: > > /usr/home/lamps/test/mm_stats: arith: syntax error: " j + k " > > What seems to be happening is that the lines: > # SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,` > # k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done > > isn't cutting the size=field properly. > > Any suggestions for a fix? Otherwise the script is running great, and it > will make my list members happy. (In fact maybe it, or a bunch of > variations on it, could be included in the mailman 3 suite.) > > Thanks in advance, > al > > > # Mailman's log file to be examined for stats > POST=/usr/home/lamps/usr/local/mailman/logs/post > > > # create temp file to collect stats > TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/mm_stats.XXXXXX` || exit 1 > > > LIST="`/usr/home/lamps/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_lists |awk '{print $1}' > |sed -n '2,$p'`" > for i in $LIST > do > echo "Stats from local Mailman list: $i" > $TMPFILE > echo " " >> $TMPFILE > echo -n " Starting: " >> $TMPFILE > head -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE > echo -n " Ending: " >> $TMPFILE > tail -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE > echo " ======================================= " >> $TMPFILE > echo -n "Total posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE > grep -i "post to $i " $POST |wc -l >> $TMPFILE > echo -n "Total SUCCESSFUL posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE > grep -i "post to $i " $POST |grep success |wc -l >> $TMPFILE > # SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,` > # k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done > echo " Total bytes" = $k >> $TMPFILE > echo " " >> $TMPFILE > echo "Top 10 posters to the list:" >> $TMPFILE > grep -i "post to $i " $POST |cut -f 10 "-d " |sort |uniq -c \ > |sort -bgr |head -10 >> $TMPFILE > echo " " >> $TMPFILE > # Mail the collected stats off to the list admin and cc the mailman user > # mail -s "Mailman Stats for List: $i" -c mailman $i-admin <$TMPFILE > # mail the collected Stats for lists to the server admin > mail -s "Mailman Stats for List: $i" server-admin <$TMPFILE > done >

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How to remove X-Confirm-Reading requests from mail headers distributed by Mailman?
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Hi! Is there any way to setup mailman to stop distributing X-Confirm-Reading- To requests sent by some list users? One user has unsubscribed from my list just because it was distributed over the list. Regards ak

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Stop the Confirmation E-Mail
by Nancy S 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Jon wrote: >I don't think anyone on Mailman-dev wants to encourage the bad practice >of allowing folks to be subscribed without their approval (except by the >list admin), so don't look for this feature to be changed in MMv3. This may be slightly off this particular topic, but I run several mailman lists with the options: o) Administrator approval is required for all subscriptions o) No confirmation is required for subscriptions These are relatively "closed" communities of nontechnical people, where the administrator has tight connections to the subscribers and there is some "offline" or "unstructured" confirmation that occurs outside of Mailman itself. The problem I've been having is that there doesn't seem to be a way for the LIST ADMIN to change a subscriber's e-mail address without a confirmation (unless one goes through a subscribe/unsubscribe which risks changing user options and the user password). For these particular communities we really do not want confirmation required -- and if it's not required for the initial subscription, why is it required for the address change? Or am I missing something? Thanks! -Nancy [Mailman "user" in the sense of list administrator -- I've no control over the installation. Mailman version 2.1.1]

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How Can A User Be "Hidden" from a List Adminstrator
by Lloyd F. Tennison 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Since the only way to get a copy of a Mailman list is to use the view subscribers (unless you have root access) I usually view and cut and paste. Now I have a comment that one is "hidden". Seems like nothing should be hidden from the list administrator. Is there an easy way to change - or do I have to scan the list and change manually? Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison lloyd_tennison(a)whoever.com No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced.

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