Mailman 3 April 2004 - Mailman-Users

Problem with subscription parsing?
by David Bourguignon 02 May '04

02 May '04

Hi all, I have a problem to register to mailing lists managed with gnu mailman. I think it comes from the way my free email provider writes the subject line content but I'm not sure. I copied below the email I sent to the gnu mailman server using the first "reply" method and the answer I got back from it. I did not use the second "single line in the message body" method because my email provider automatically adds a few extra lines at the end of my emails (advertisement for its ADSL internet service). Since this is not the first time this problem occurs to me, with different gnu mailman servers, I thought it might be of interest. If you need more information, please let me know. Thanks in advance for your help, David. ---------- Initial Header ----------- From : "David Bourguignon" <dmab(a)chez.com> To : "verse-dev-request" <verse-dev-request(a)blender.org> Cc : Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:32:53 +0200 Subject : Re:Verse-dev -- confirmation of subscription -- request 953790 ---------- Initial Header ----------- From : verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org To : dmab(a)chez.com Cc : Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:53:23 +0200 Subject : Verse-dev -- confirmation of subscription -- request 953790 Verse-dev -- confirmation of subscription -- request 953790 We have received a request from 193.253.216.98 for subscription of your email address, <dmab(a)chez.com>, to the verse-dev(a)blender.org mailing list. To confirm the request, please send a message to verse-dev-request(a)blender.org, and either: - maintain the subject line as is (the reply's additional "Re:" is ok), - or include the following line - and only the following line - in the message body: confirm 953790 (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right form.) If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard this message. Send questions to verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org. ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL. ---------- Initial Header ----------- From : verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org To : dmab(a)chez.com Cc : Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:37:00 +0200 Subject : Mailman results for Verse-dev This is an automated response. There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via the administrative address <verse-dev-request(a)blender.org>. To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to <verse-dev-request(a)blender.org> with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, please send your message to <verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org>. The following is a detailed description of the problems. >>>>> Subject line ignored: >>>>> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:Verse-dev_--_confirmation_of_subscription... Command? ---------- Initial Header -----------=0D=0A=0D=0AFrom ... Command? min(a)blender.org=0D=0ATo : dmab(a)chez.com=0D=0ACc ... Command? Date : Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:53:23 +0200=0D=0ASubject :... Command? onfirmation of subscription -- request 953790=0D=0A=0D=0AV... >>>>> >>>>> Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored: > firmation of subscription -- request 953790=0D=0A=0D=0AWe have received a= > request from 193.253.216.98 for subscription of=0D=0Ayour email address,= > <dmab(a)chez.com>, to the verse-dev(a)blender.org=0D=0Amailing list. To con= > firm the request, please send a message to=0D=0Averse-dev-request@blender= > .org, and either:=0D=0A=0D=0A- maintain the subject line as is (the reply= > 's additional "Re:" is=0D=0Aok),=0D=0A=0D=0A- or include the following li= > ne - and only the following line - in the=0D=0Amessage body: =0D=0A=0D=0A= > confirm 953790=0D=0A=0D=0A(Simply sending a 'reply' to this message shoul= > d work from most email=0D=0Ainterfaces, since that usually leaves the sub= > ject line in the right=0D=0Aform.)=0D=0A=0D=0AIf you do not wish to subsc= > ribe to this list, please simply disregard=0D=0Athis message. Send quest= > ions to verse-dev-admin(a)blender.org.=0D=0A=0A=0A******ADSL Tiscali, le Ha= > ut d=E9bit au meilleur prix ******=0AAvec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au = > meilleur prix partout en France !=0APour profiter de cette offre exceptio= > nnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl=0ASous r=E9serve d'= > =E9ligibilit=E9 =E0 l'ADSL.=0A > > ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can not reply to mailman list (More Info)
by Lesley Jones 02 May '04

02 May '04

I am pretty new to setting mailman and postfix up, so I appreciate the help! Yes, I can send from the root address and receive email to it just by the local machine and not using mailman. Only not from that one email address. I can't send to the list or to the local root account from this one email server yet it will receive from mailman, and I have tried multiple accounts on this same email system, so it isn't just one account being bounced. All other email accounts I have tried work beautifully, can send and receive from the local root account and any mailman list I create. My main.cf for postfix if it is of any help....: 2bounce_notice_recipient = postmaster access_map_reject_code = 554 alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases alias_maps = hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases allow_mail_to_commands = alias,forward allow_mail_to_files = alias,forward allow_min_user = no allow_percent_hack = yes allow_untrusted_routing = no alternate_config_directories = always_bcc = append_at_myorigin = yes append_dot_mydomain = yes best_mx_transport = biff = yes body_checks = bounce_notice_recipient = postmaster bounce_size_limit = 50000 broken_sasl_auth_clients = no canonical_maps = command_directory = /usr/sbin command_expansion_filter = 1234567890!@%-_=+:,./abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ command_time_limit = 1000s config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix daemon_timeout = 18000s debug_peer_level = 2 debug_peer_list = default_database_type = hash default_delivery_slot_cost = 5 default_delivery_slot_discount = 50 default_delivery_slot_loan = 3 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 10 default_destination_recipient_limit = 50 default_extra_recipient_limit = 1000 default_minimum_delivery_slots = 3 default_privs = nobody default_process_limit = 50 default_recipient_limit = 10000 default_transport = smtp default_verp_delimiters = += defer_transports = delay_notice_recipient = postmaster delay_warning_time = 0h deliver_lock_attempts = 20 deliver_lock_delay = 1s disable_dns_lookups = no disable_verp_bounces = no disable_vrfy_command = no dont_remove = 0 double_bounce_sender = double-bounce duplicate_filter_limit = 1000 empty_address_recipient = MAILER-DAEMON error_notice_recipient = postmaster expand_owner_alias = no export_environment = TZ MAIL_CONFIG extract_recipient_limit = 10240 fallback_relay = fallback_transport = fast_flush_domains = $relay_domains fast_flush_purge_time = 7d fast_flush_refresh_time = 12h fault_injection_code = 0 fork_attempts = 5 Again, thanks for the help!!! Lesley >>> Paul Tomblin <ptomblin(a)xcski.com> 4/30/2004 7:29:50 AM >>> Quoting Lesley Jones (Lesley.Jones(a)linnbenton.edu): > The mail sent is bounced back to the sender with > > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > > Does this help? I have looked for an answer to this but can not find > one. Sounds like an MTA problem, not a mailman problem. Can you just send normal mail to/from that machine? -- Paul Tomblin <ptomblin(a)xcski.com> http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "Look! This trout makes a better hammer than that blob of marmalade!" - Adam J. Thornton ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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Re: mm_stats question
by Jon Carnes 02 May '04

02 May '04

I just double checked and it works fine on all my sites... Do you have any lists with "=" in the name? If that is the case, then you would need to modify the first line and add in an additional cut: SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2- -d, | \ cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,` k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done echo " Total bytes" = $k >> $TMPFILE This additional cut will remove the listname from the line before using the "=" to isolate the size of the message If that doesn't do it for you, then drop a copy of your post log and the name of the list with the problems and I'll see what needs to be modified. Hope this is helpful - Jon Carnes On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 10:24, Al Black wrote: > Hi Jon, > > I trying out the mm_stats script you wrote (see > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg15378.html) and > have a couple of little bugs you might be able to help me with. I'm using > version 2.1.4 of mailman. > > I get two errors running the script from command line. > > The first is: > > ===: not found > > I'm pretty sure this happens when the script hits a list we have that has > no traffic. > > The second one is the one I'm more concerned with: > > /usr/home/lamps/test/mm_stats: arith: syntax error: " j + k " > > What seems to be happening is that the lines: > # SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,` > # k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done > > isn't cutting the size=field properly. > > Any suggestions for a fix? Otherwise the script is running great, and it > will make my list members happy. (In fact maybe it, or a bunch of > variations on it, could be included in the mailman 3 suite.) > > Thanks in advance, > al > > > # Mailman's log file to be examined for stats > POST=/usr/home/lamps/usr/local/mailman/logs/post > > > # create temp file to collect stats > TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/mm_stats.XXXXXX` || exit 1 > > > LIST="`/usr/home/lamps/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_lists |awk '{print $1}' > |sed -n '2,$p'`" > for i in $LIST > do > echo "Stats from local Mailman list: $i" > $TMPFILE > echo " " >> $TMPFILE > echo -n " Starting: " >> $TMPFILE > head -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE > echo -n " Ending: " >> $TMPFILE > tail -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE > echo " ======================================= " >> $TMPFILE > echo -n "Total posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE > grep -i "post to $i " $POST |wc -l >> $TMPFILE > echo -n "Total SUCCESSFUL posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE > grep -i "post to $i " $POST |grep success |wc -l >> $TMPFILE > # SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1 -d,` > # k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done > echo " Total bytes" = $k >> $TMPFILE > echo " " >> $TMPFILE > echo "Top 10 posters to the list:" >> $TMPFILE > grep -i "post to $i " $POST |cut -f 10 "-d " |sort |uniq -c \ > |sort -bgr |head -10 >> $TMPFILE > echo " " >> $TMPFILE > # Mail the collected stats off to the list admin and cc the mailman user > # mail -s "Mailman Stats for List: $i" -c mailman $i-admin <$TMPFILE > # mail the collected Stats for lists to the server admin > mail -s "Mailman Stats for List: $i" server-admin <$TMPFILE > done >

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add_virtualhost: URL_FQDN and the EMAIL_FQDN values mixed-up
by Eric Pretorious 01 May '04

01 May '04

Hello, All: I've already checked the buglist () by searching for the word "virtual" and didn't find this exact problem so I must be doing something wrong when creating virtual mailing lists: Mailman gets the URL_FQDN and the EMAIL_FQDN values mixed-up. e.g., With the following settings... Defaults.py: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.leaguehost.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.leaguehost.net' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {} MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['sunnyvalemetro.org'] mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'leaguehost.net' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('mail.sunnyvalemetro.org','sunnyvalemetro.org') The welcome message reads like this... =================== The mailing list `bod' has just been created for you.... You can configure your mailing list at the following web page: http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/admin/bod The web page for users of your mailing list is: http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/listinfo/bod There is also an email-based interface for users (not administrators) of your list; you can get info about using it by sending a message with just the word `help' as subject or in the body, to: bod-request(a)mail.sunnyvalemetro.org =================== Also, the <FORM ACTION=...> attributes are wrong when viewing the listinfo (http://mail.sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/listinfo/bod): =================== <FORM Method=POST ACTION="http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/listinfo/bod"> <FORM Method=POST ACTION="http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/subscribe/bod"> To post a message to all the list members, send email to <A HREF="mailto:bod@mail.sunnyvalemetro.org">bod(a)mail.sunnyvalemetro.org</A> <FORM Method=POST ACTION="http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/roster/bod"> <FORM Method=POST ACTION="http://sunnyvalemetro.org/mailman/options/bod"> =================== I'm using Postfix v. 2 and Mailman 2.1.4. What am I doing wrong? -- Eric P. Sunnyvale, CA

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Keeping the Publich_HTML subscription page from popping up.
by Alan Camuto 01 May '04

01 May '04

Hi, I'm new to the list and have a question... I created a mailing list on my server, and added a subscription form to my web site so visitors can automatically subscribe to the mailing list by entering their e-mail address and clicking on the submit button. The input form works perfectly, however, every time they click on submit, they are redirect to the "Subscription Results" Public HTML page. I'd like for the "subscription results" page not to pop up every time an e-mail address is submitted, or for them to be directed to one of the other pages on my server. How do I go about turning off the "subscription results" Public Html page? Is there a tag I can add to keep it from happening? Any suggestions are appreciated, Alan

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Advice pls?
by Rob Hackney 01 May '04

01 May '04

Does the silence on this mean A) you don't approve of the question B) it's a dumb question and I need to read a bit more? C) no-one can help I have read quite a bit about mailman and thought it was the solution however I'm pretty new to linux and am having troubles with getting it working/understanding the configuration. As I'm under time pressure to get a solution, I was hoping a simple yes/ no answer would help me on my way. thanks -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hackney Sent: 29 April 2004 16:12 To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman suitable? I've been asked to look into mass emailing software for my company. At present, we use a 3rd party to send html formatted emails to subscribed users and also offer an unsub link. I did look at Lyris Listmanager which was good but far too expensive. I need the program to do the following: send out html formatted emails to a list of subscribed users disallow replies to the from email address. create an auto unsub manage bounces/ non-deliverables I'd like to be able to track the messages tho this isn't strictly necessary. I have told my boss that I think postfix + mailman can do this (or at least the main parts) Am I right? I've just installed mailman and am currently configuring and testing it but don't want to waste my time if it is not suitable. My main concern is sending out the emails and making sure that this isn't an address to reply to. One other thing: this will need to work on a network which currently has an ms exch server handling out two domains; dom1.co.uk dom2.co.uk It is vital that the email comes from newsletters(a)dom2.co.uk This is currently an exch mailbox. thanks This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: postmaster(a)tkcsales.co.uk then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com)

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attachments in archives
by David Sharpington 01 May '04

01 May '04

Hi I thought this might be a common beginner's question but I can't find a solution in the FAQ or the archives. I need to allow attachments and this is working fine in posts, but in the archives the attachment is converted into characters. Can I either (a) keep attachments in the archives and/or (b) not save the attachements to the archives in the first place? Thanks very much. Dave S

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Error, how can i fix it?
by Juan Carlos 01 May '04

01 May '04

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re: frequent bounces from member email addresses - not spam and no attachments
by Craig Elkins 01 May '04

01 May '04

Hi, I'm getting inundated with bounces resulting from list member email that has no attachments. the mail seems to get through anyway but how can i stop these emails from bouncing? Thanks, Craig

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Advice pls?
by B. van Ouwerkerk 01 May '04

01 May '04

At 15:15 30-04-2004 +0100, Rob Hackney wrote: >Does the silence on the query below mean You will probably find an answer if you search this lists archive or google. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >I have read quite a bit about mailman and thought it was the solution >however I'm pretty new to linux and am having troubles with getting it >working/understanding the configuration. As I'm under time pressure to >get a solution, I was hoping a simple yes/ no answer would help me on my >way. thanks Some time ago I mentioned on the SBSLIST that I didn't see mailman and exchange play nicely together but it seems to be possible. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2000-March/004001.html >I'd like to be able to track the messages tho this isn't strictly >necessary. Not sure. Not even sure what you want. Add an ID to each message send out so that any customer reading your mail is recognized? FWIW, sending the same question twice within a short time doesn't help in getting an answer quickly. B.

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