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I just installed exim4 and mailman under Debian sarge.
The system gets its email and the email send to a mailinglist is listet
in the mailinglist-archive.
But Mailman doesn't send ANY mail out to the subscribers.
The mailman log prints out:
Apr 30 15:23:42 2004 (5305) post to blurp from
message-id=<mailman.25.1083230107.825.blurp(a)XXX.cs.tu-bs.de>, 1 failures
Apr 30 15:23:42 2004 (5305) post to blurp from
message-id=<mailman.0.1083230141.4998.blurp(a)XXX.cs.tu-bs.de>, 1 failures
Apr 30 15:23:42 2004 (5305) post to blurp from schimmer(a)XXX.cs.tu-bs.de,
And the exim4 logs doesn't have any entrance about this mail.
How can i increase the mailman loglevel or has somebody a hint for me
where to search for the problem?
Technische Universität Braunschweig, Institut für Computergraphik
Tel.: +49 531 391-2109 E-Mail: schimmer(a)cg.cs.tu-bs.de
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I am trying to implement a list serve for the college I work for to
replace our old, out-of-date list serve.
I have set up Mailman on Redhat 9 with Postfix. I can create lists and
add members to the list just fine. I have used many different email
addresses for the list members. I have used addresses from a different
college, hotmail, and 3 of our internal addresses here at this college.
The problem is, all but one of these addresses can REPLY back to the
list. They all receive the mail, but one of my internal addresses of
xx.mydomain.edu can not reply, yet mydomain.edu can.
Does anyone have a suggestion of what might be going on? A setting I
have overlooked in the postfix config file?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
One of our customers runs an announcement list with 10,000 subscribers.
He requires approval for subscription and gets notices of subscribes
and unsubscribes. This all adds up to a bundle of administrator mail.
(No, I don't know why he wants it all, but that's his concern.)
His mail servers are fairly reliable, but occasionally throw a "Service
unavailable". On average, this happens about once a day, which is not a
big deal percentage-wise.
Recently we moved from 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, and the admin mail addresses began
getting routinely unsubscribed due to bounces after a few days.
I suspect the problem is that admin mail bounces appear to go through bounce
processing, and bounce processing does not take into account the number of
successful mails to an address when deciding to cut someone off. This means
that bounce processing does not scale with mail volume to an address.
We have had to deactivate bounce processing for this list pending 2.1.5.
The proposed probe behavior should help, but if the mechanism for invoking
it is as broken as it seems, probes will be sent far too often - often
enough for the probe failure risk to be a problem.
-- Chris Whip
Chris Whip - Systems administrator, Drizzle Internet NW - chrisw(a)drizzle.com
I've been asked to look into mass emailing software for my company.
At present, we use a 3rd party to send html formatted emails to
subscribed users and also offer an unsub link.
I did look at Lyris Listmanager which was good but far too expensive.
I need the program to do the following:
send out html formatted emails to a list of subscribed users
disallow replies to the from email address.
create an auto unsub
manage bounces/ non-deliverables
I'd like to be able to track the messages tho this isn't strictly
I have told my boss that I think postfix + mailman can do this
(oh yeah did I say I have to do this at 0 cost ;-)
Am I right? I've just installed mailman and am currently configuring
and testing it but don't want to waste my time if it is not suitable.
My main concern is sending out the emails and making sure that this
isn't a group to reply to.
One other thing: this will need to work on a network which currently
has an ms exch server handling out two domains;
It is vital that the email comes from newsletters(a)dom2.co.uk
This is currently an exch mailbox.
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Tel: 0870 870 0480
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To: Brad Knowles
> > Do you (or other mailman-users members) know where I can
> > find the "patch" for that please?
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.011.htp >
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.008.htp >.
Thanks for that!
> I wouldn't say that "HTML is not well supported". The built-in
> pipermail archiver isn't so great with HTML, but this can be
> remedied. Mailman itself does a pretty reasonable job with regards
> to the messages as they are actually sent out, considering just how
> difficult various programs make this process.
> I would encourage you to search the archives for more details on
> this subject.
> Out of curiosity, do you remember the original ProDOS? Apple ]I[?
But because my actual name is "Prodos" (Full name: "Prodos Stefanos Nicholaou Marinakis")
it is not an uncommon question. ;-)
Thanks for the leads, above.
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Thanks for the responses...hopefully I'll be able to massage them into
I was skeptical that the problem pointed to an MTA configuration issue,
because I got the same set of headers when I changed SMTPHOST in my
mm_cfg.py from 'localhost' to point to another of our SMTP servers.
(Both the Mailman server and the other one I'd tried are running
However, on a whim, I just changed it to direct outbound messages to our
Exchange server's SMTP service, and everything seems to be peachy-keen.
Harrumph. So far I've got suggested directives for Exim and
Postfix...anybody slogged through this with Sendmail before and have a
Web Programmer / Analyst
Longview, Texas USA
[mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Roedel, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Using a hostname other than the server's
The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different
hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable
from inside our firewall. While Mailman is configured to prefer a
non-primary hostname, generated emails include the primary hostname in
some of their headers (including "Sender", "Return-path", and
"Reply-to"), resulting in the use of addresses which are undeliverable
from outside our local network.
Is it possible to override this behavior?
The primary hostname of the server which hosts our Mailman lists is
"baruch.letnet.net". For a number of reasons, this hostname is not
resolvable from outside our firewall.
This server has additional hostnames ("www.letu.edu" and
"lists.letu.edu") which are resolvable and accessible from outside our
Lists are configured with host_name (Host name this list prefers for
email) set to "lists.letu.edu".
An e-mail sent through the list, however, gets headers which include the
> From: "Roedel, Mark" <MarkRoedel(a)letu.edu>
> X-BeenThere: deck3(a)lists.letu.edu
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2
> Reply-To: Deck 3 alumni and friends <deck3(a)baruch.letnet.net>
> List-Id: Deck 3 alumni and friends <deck3.lists.letu.edu>
> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3>,
> List-Archive: <http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/private/deck3>
> List-Post: <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:email@example.com?subject=help>
> List-Subscribe: <http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3>,
> Sender: deck3-bounces(a)baruch.letnet.net
> Errors-To: deck3-bounces(a)baruch.letnet.net
> Return-Path: deck3-bounces(a)baruch.letnet.net
Any way (using the SMTPDirect handler, in case that matters) to ensure
that all headers that refer to the list address use the correct
hostname? Reply-To is the most visible problem for list subscribers,
and although I can of course override that by providing an explicit
reply-to address, it seems like it'd also be to our benefit to have
Sender/Errors-To/Return-Path contain reachable addresses as well...
Looks like the host is keeping mailman on a seperate server. Is there
any way to still do it, or am I stuck?
What I'm doing right now is generating an email in PHP using the
subscribers address for the from line, so that the confirmation goes to
them. Is there any way I can do this using some kind of admin command
via email instead, so they don't get the confirmation or anything saying
they're already subscribed if that happens to be the case?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin Alcorn" <justin(a)jalcorn.net>
> To: "Sean Robertson" <webolutionary(a)webolutionary.com>
> Cc: <mailman-users(a)python.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Access subscription list via PHP?
> Sean Robertson said:
> > I have a PHP form set up that I'd like to be able to use to
> > people
> > to the mailing list. The problem is tha they might already be
> > to
> > the list, so just sending an email to the listserve is not a very
> > solution. Is there any way to access the memberlist via PHP and
> > if
> > someone has already signed up or not so it doesn't try to do it
> > they already have?
> call list_members and capture the output.
> $members = `/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members mylist`;
> // find the member...
> The universe is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot
> ruled by interfering. -- Chinese proverb
> JaBbA's hut: http://jalcorn.net
There doesn't seem to be an option for listing all members on the web
interface and there's also no chance to do it with the search. Search
obviously transforms strings automatically to regexes (that is I can
search for a string and don't need to create a regex), but it doesn't
produce a result when I use only one character or a regex which would
output all members.
Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany
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