Mailman 3 April 2004 - Mailman-Users

Problems with install - check_perms
by David Jarrell - Hotmail April 4, 2004

April 4, 2004

Hi all, I hope that this is the correct list for this question. I wish to create a few mailing lists for the website I run. The site is for the Boy Scout troop with which I volunteer. Group for adults, parents, and the scouts would be great. Anyway, I have a FreeBSD 4.9 box at home registered to a domain. The site works fine; I can send mail all day long with my squirrelmail gateway, but I'm still having some problems with receiving mail. However, I just made a MX record change to reflect the … [View More]

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Setting delivery option does not work
by Anoetic Concepts April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

I'm using the Mailman version included in CPanel -- I think it's version 2.1.3. I sent the following 5 commands in an email to the -request address of a list: set authenticate password set show set delivery off set show end Of course, I replaced "password" with my actual password. The response follows: - Results: Your current option settings: ack on digest off delivery on myposts on hide off duplicates on reminders on delivery … [View More]

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How to ask for confirmation for moderator, reject everything else?
by Mike Bridge April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

Hi- We have an announcement-only list which no one but the moderators can post to. Right now it holds all posts (everyone has the moderation flag on), but I'd like to set it to automatically reject everything that isn't a moderator post, and require confirmation for the moderators' posts. Is that possible? I can see how to reject everything but auto-allow moderator posts, but I can't see how to force a confirmation only for email coming from the moderator's address. Thanks, -Mike

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Strange real_name naming scheme
by Matthew Stevens April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

I've recently had to move hosts and the new host appears to being having an issue with mailman and cpanel. For some reason when I create lists they are created with my domain as part of the mailing list name. I.E. List test becomes test_the-stevens.us for it's real name and therefore the lists address test_the-stevens.us(a)the-stevens.us and test(a)the-stevens.us both work. And of course the other address of the list follow that same scheme test_the-stevens.us-owner(a)the-stevens.us Part of … [View More]

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list archives settings
by Michael Hubbard April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

Hi all, So I've been having some issues with a recently migrated list, where when I would try to view the list archives (http://www.sitename.com/pipermail/listname/), it wasn't reflecting any messages since the move (from one server to another). I was checking the Archiving Options settings, and I apparently had the "new archive volume should be started" to daily. Which is why I see the following in the /archives/private/ directory: 2004-March 2004-March.txt 2004-March.txt.gz 20040321 … [View More]

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How Can A User Be "Hidden" from a List Adminstrator
by Lloyd F. Tennison April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

Since the only way to get a copy of a Mailman list is to use the view subscribers (unless you have root access) I usually view and cut and paste. Now I have a comment that one is "hidden". Seems like nothing should be hidden from the list administrator. Is there an easy way to change - or do I have to scan the list and change manually? Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison lloyd_tennison(a)whoever.com No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of … [View More]

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The AOL Problem
by Bob Bowers April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

I am a volunteer webmaster for 3 community organizations all of which have mail lists for which I use Mailman. This post is not about a technical issue with Mailman. It is about a spam processing issue with AOL, which many subscribers to this list will encounter. Yesterday someone posted about preventing AOL users subscribing to any list on their servers. On Tuesday I was informed by my web hosting service that they had multiple spam complaints from AOL for one of my mail lists. The … [View More]emails in question did originate from my mail list. The web host or owner of a mail server is not provided with identification of the individual reporting spam, and is not permitted to determine whether or not the offending message is spam. The web hosting service told me that virtually the only solution was to remove all AOL users from any mail list, list server or forum I maintain. Otherwise my email privileges would be suspended, my hosting account might be cancelled, and they feared being blacklisted by AOL which is proliferated to other ISPs. My investigation of only a few days reflects that this is a huge problem for legitimate users of bulk email. While AOL is having success finding and prosecuting some spammers, in proportion they are creating a huge problem for organizations and businesses attempting to maintain legitimate communication with their members and customers. Spammers can move easily and (often) illegitimately use another mail server. I can't, and you can't, move as easily. Spammers can ignore AOL spam reports, but you and I can't. Just a few things I learned: 1) A major airline which has its own web services is having the same problem with their own legitimate bulk email to their customers, and employing the same solution, not accpeting AOL email addressess from subscribers. One of their representatives who is a personal friend tells me they are also on the verge of purging AOL email accounts from their subscription lists. 2) I am retired. The IT company for which I used to work is ignoring AOL spam complaints as their mail servers will not be effectively blacklisted. Neither I nor my web host has that luxury. 3) AOL is completely non-responsive to the problem except to tell you about their bulk email policies and their "whitelisiting." However if one of their users reports your messages as spam, they are treated as spam regardless of compliance. 4) Read AOL's bulk email policies. You may find that, by their definition, messages from your mail lists ARE spam. Even if they are not, if an AOL user reports them as spam, they are treated as spam by everyone including your provider with no recourse. http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.adp AOL users may simply push a button on their mail window to report spam, either in the PC program or the web interface, an action which requires no confirmation and is not retractable, and the reported email is automatically processed. It is not the spam filters which are creating the problem. Many organizations and companies are asking their members or customers for alternate email addresses. By telling my users that I cannot support AOL email addresses I have started a rebellion. I have no solution except to find alternative means of communicating with them. Moving web hosts will not work as the problem will re-occur. I am trying to give other subscribers to this list who have not yet encountered the AOL problem a "heads up." AOL is not going to respond until they hear from their own customers who are unable to subscribe to information resources they need. You can also write to AOL management if you encounter the problem of AOL spam reports: Jonathan Miller, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Ted Leonsis, Vice Chairman, America Online, Inc. and President, AOL Core Service John McKinley, Chief Technology Officer & President, AOL Technologies American Online Inc. 22000 AOL Way Dulles VA 20166 [View Less]

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newbie: no auto subscription + control on number
by Yogesh Subhash Talekar April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

hi I have not yet used Mailman, but is it possible to have following two features: 1. I do not want user to subsribe automatically. I want to add them to the lists on my own. (i.e. administrator's interface) 2. Since I have large number of users in each list, I do not want them to flood my postfix server. So is it possible to control the flow of number of messages from mailman to postfix server. (say I want only 100 mails per minute?) I do not want the broadcat on mailing list to reach all … [View More]

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Duplicate Messages
by Bob Bowers April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

I am using Mailman 2.1.3 as provided by a web hosting service for several mail lists. On one mail list, each time a message is posted, all subscribers receive the message twice. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any suggestions what to look for? Please respond to me directly at b-bowers(a)cox.net as well as mailman-users. Thank you.

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Duplicate Messages
by Bob Bowers April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

I am using Mailman 2.1.3 as provided by a web hosting service for several mail lists. On one mail list, each time a message is posted, all subscribers receive the message twice. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any suggestions what to look for? Please respond to me directly at b-bowers(a)cox.net as well as mailman-users. Thank you.

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