Mailman 3 April 2004 - Mailman-Users

How to list all members of a list/search broken
by Kai Schaetzl 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

There doesn't seem to be an option for listing all members on the web interface and there's also no chance to do it with the search. Search obviously transforms strings automatically to regexes (that is I can search for a string and don't need to create a regex), but it doesn't produce a result when I use only one character or a regex which would output all members. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org

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What about this patch: "Edit held message header/body"?
by prodos＠prodos.com 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

From: Prodos (Melbourne, Australia) Good afternoon! I'd like to ask whether anyone is using or is familar with the following patch and if you have any feedback about it: "[ 644129 ] Edit held message header/body" available @ https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=644129&group_id=1… This patch allows "full editing of headers and bodies of messages being held for approval in Mailman 2.1" Thanks for any help or advice! =]:-) Best Wishes, PRODOS http://CelebrateCapitalism.ORG "The rich get richer. The poor get richer. Imagine ... Capitalism!" -

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Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?
by Hunter Hillegas 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to re-enable delivery? We recently had a situation where AOL was blocking all of our mail, so everyone on our list that is on AOL is now blocked for excessive bouncing... We have 20,000 members on our list on AOL, so doing it by hand sounds about as great as having my hand chopped off. I tried searching the archives and google to no avail. We're running 2.1.4. Thanks.

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Re: How does Mailman compare with YahooGroups?
by prodos＠prodos.com 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

From: Prodos (Melbourne, Australia) To: Glenn Sieb Dear Glenn, Good morning! > If you look at what people _use_ Yahoogroups for, it's not just for a > mailing list in general--it's being used to schedule get togethers, > keep track of members' birthdays, et cetera. Mailman doesn't do all > that (at least, not efficiently, unless you count some poor schmuck > being stuck with the duties of emailing the whole list every > week/month/etc to keep everyone up to date ;) ). Okay. I've never used those other functions (maybe I should!) But I understand what you're saying. > And, from the past comments I've seen on the > subject, it's not something that interests the dev team (and that's > fine.. no one said they had to find it interesting .. I'm just > mentioning it as this subject has been brought up in the past... > Okay. Actually, I'm new to all this "open source" stuff. I was introduced to it by an American friend, Phil Oliver of Oliver Computing, who helped me set up my new server. I'm truly staggered, amazed, and astounded at how much incredible FREE software has been and is being currently developed around the world. I'd be surprised if some of the functions that exist in YahooGroups but don't exist in Mailman don't eventually get developed and be made available by somebody at some time. Anyway, your notes have certainly helped me in comparing Mailman and YahooGroups. So thanks for that! :-) Best Wishes, PRODOS http://prodos.com - Internet Radio "Discover the power. Of ideas!"

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing?
by Roedel, Mark 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Even better: $prefix/list_members --nomail=B would give a list of only those list members with the criteria requested by the original poster. (Exists in 2.1.5rc2...not sure if it was around prior to that or not.) -- Mark Roedel Web Programmer / Analyst LeTourneau University -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of David Relson Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:30 PM Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Reset All Users Disabled By Bouncing? > Is there a way to reset all users that are set to nomail[B] to > re-enable delivery? Perhaps the following idea will be helpful: $prefix/list_members can give a list of members grep can select the aol subscribers ??? can use _that_ list to re-enable the users

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MM Not Talking To Imap Sessions: Pop3d OK
by Karl R. Balsmeier 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Hi there, I noticed that users utilizing squirrelmail and some other Imap based programs were not able to submit posts to the list. Is there an Exim3 transport or Director or trasport that handles this? -krb

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No welcome mail
by Kai Schaetzl 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

I usually subscribe members to our announce-only lists via web interface and don't send them a welcome notice. But today I did and found that nothing gets sent. Unsubscription sends an unsubscribe confirmation to the member and I also get my list-admin notice when I tick it. But no welcome mail for the new member. No problems in the logs, there's simply no attempt to produce the message as far as I can see. Could this be a problem with 2.1.5rc2? I don't remember if I ever tried it with 2.1.4. While checking the logs I found actions getting logged like new "email@address" <>, admin mass sub which implies it should normally (when I add names as well) look like "name" <email@address> operation is ok, but I wonder why it does log this way and not f.i. "" <email@address> Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org

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Using a hostname other than the server's primary name...
by Roedel, Mark 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Brief Overview: =============== The box that currently hosts our Mailman lists has several different hostnames, some of which (including its primary) are only resolvable from inside our firewall. While Mailman is configured to prefer a non-primary hostname, generated emails include the primary hostname in some of their headers (including "Sender", "Return-path", and "Reply-to"), resulting in the use of addresses which are undeliverable from outside our local network. Is it possible to override this behavior? Detailed Information: ===================== The primary hostname of the server which hosts our Mailman lists is "baruch.letnet.net". For a number of reasons, this hostname is not resolvable from outside our firewall. This server has additional hostnames ("www.letu.edu" and "lists.letu.edu") which are resolvable and accessible from outside our firewall. Lists are configured with host_name (Host name this list prefers for email) set to "lists.letu.edu". An e-mail sent through the list, however, gets headers which include the following: > From: "Roedel, Mark" <MarkRoedel(a)letu.edu> > X-BeenThere: deck3(a)lists.letu.edu > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2 > Reply-To: Deck 3 alumni and friends <deck3(a)baruch.letnet.net> > List-Id: Deck 3 alumni and friends <deck3.lists.letu.edu> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3>, > <mailto:deck3-request@lists.letu.edu?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/private/deck3> > List-Post: <mailto:deck3@lists.letu.edu> > List-Help: <mailto:deck3-request@lists.letu.edu?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://www.letu.edu/mail/lists/listinfo/deck3>, > <mailto:deck3-request@lists.letu.edu?subject=subscribe> > Sender: deck3-bounces(a)baruch.letnet.net > Errors-To: deck3-bounces(a)baruch.letnet.net > Return-Path: deck3-bounces(a)baruch.letnet.net Any way (using the SMTPDirect handler, in case that matters) to ensure that all headers that refer to the list address use the correct hostname? Reply-To is the most visible problem for list subscribers, and although I can of course override that by providing an explicit reply-to address, it seems like it'd also be to our benefit to have Sender/Errors-To/Return-Path contain reachable addresses as well... -- Mark Roedel Web Programmer / Analyst LeTourneau University Longview, Texas USA

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application.
by Franco, Ruben 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

So does the "lists" sub-directory contain data for each individual list including rosters and digests? Ruben -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kai Schaetzl Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:32 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup / Recover of Lists or mailman application. Ruben Franco wrote on Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:11:46 -0600: > In the event of the corruption of an individual list or loss of the > entire Mailman server, are there any tips for recovery for either > individual lists or for restoration the entire mailman application from > a tape backup? Are there any specific directories or files that need > to be restore to recover an individual list from backup? > for backing up lists: /usr/local/mailman/lists for the whole installation: /usr/local/mailman assuming it's installed to the standard path. It's really easy! Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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RE: How does Mailman compare with YahooGroups?
by prodos＠prodos.com 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

From: Prodos (Melbourne, Australia) To: Paul H Byerly Dear Paul, Thanks for your comments .... [Prodos:] > >I'm writing to ask about comparing Mailman with YahooGroups. > > > >Would anyone on this list care to offer a comparison? > [Paul:] > Mailman does not allow posting from the archives. Ah! Good point. That's a big minus. > There is a program know as M2F that will tie Mailman and > phpbb together - see > <http://m2f.sourceforge.net>http://m2f.sourceforge.net (public beta). > I've not yet tried that integration, but it looks promising. Mailman does > not have a files section, or calender. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. > It does not have a built in archive > search, but one that far exceeds Yahoo's can be easily added. Do you (or other mailman-users members) know where I can find the "patch" for that please? > HTML is not well supported. > Okay. [Prodos:] > >Or, if you are an ex-YahooGroups user, say why you changed > >to Mailman? > [Paul:] > Yahoo has been increasingly unreliable, and the ads are worse and > worse. Some of the list moved from Yahoo to Mailman are now boards run > on phpbb - look at both and see what best fits your needs, or look at the > M2F method of combining the two > Thanks for that suggestion. =]:-) PRODOS http://prodos.com - Internet Radio "Discover the power. Of ideas!"

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