Mailman 3 April 2004 - Mailman-Users

web gui disappeared after moving location...
by Tim Walter 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Hi, I run Mailman on a RAQ4 and having run out of space I moved usr to home using the usr2home.sh script successfully. The lists seem to work fine again but the web gui pages /mailman/admin/list/members etc have gone AWOL. I am pretty sure they are all there but for some reason not functioning/displaying. Anyone any experience or able to tell me where these pages reside and how to get them back again. I suspect it might be a permissions thing but am no expert. -- Tim Walter Emis NUG website http://www.emisnug.org.uk/index.asp To join the NUG, phone 0191 487 4571 The Emis-list archive is at http://www.medhost.co.uk/forum/ Join/leave at http://www.emisnug.org.uk/online

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web gui disappeared after moving location...
by Tim Walter 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Hi, I run Mailman on a RAQ4 and having run out of space I moved usr to home using the usr2home.sh script successfully. The lists seem to work fine again but the web gui pages /mailman/admin/list/members etc have gone AWOL. I am pretty sure they are all there but for some reason not functioning/displaying. Anyone any experience or able to tell me where these pages reside and how to get them back again. I suspect it might be a permissions thing but am no expert. -- Tim Walter Emis NUG website http://www.emisnug.org.uk/index.asp To join the NUG, phone 0191 487 4571 The Emis-list archive is at http://www.medhost.co.uk/forum/ Join/leave at http://www.emisnug.org.uk/online

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Why am I getting this list from two addresses?
by Kai Schaetzl 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Richard Barrett wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:19:10 +0100: > Depending on the site and list policies some, all or none of the > messages you receive may VERP'ed. > Thank you both for the explanation. What made me ask this is that when I first subscribed to the list in February I checked the headers of the list and used the VERPed address for white-listing it. I didn't recognize any exceptions. Then I was removed from the list in March (like some others here as well, seems it went back to backup from November) and had to resubscribe when a message I sent to the list bounced. Since then I noticed that many messages were not going thru as white-listed (but scanned and found to be ham), because many were not using the VERPed address. So I suppose there was a change in that bounce detection policy from "always" to "some"? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org

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Re: [Mailman-Users] cc problem
by lloyd_tennison＠whoever.com 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Go to the CookHeaders.py file, in the Handlers folder, and comment it out as such: #msg['Cc'] = COMMASPACE.join([formataddr(pair) for pair in new]) I also use this to get rid of the "extra" headers such as Mailman version, and the Precedence value #msg['X-Mailman-Version'] = mm_cfg.VERSION #msg['Precedence'] = 'list' These are more information than need to be sent - and give SPAM filters a chance to block the emails. ----- Original Message --------------- >Return-Path: <mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org> >Received: from spf4.us4.outblaze.com (205.158.62.26) by mta3.wss.scd.yahoo.com (7.0.016) > id 40723FE600ABE73A for lloyd(a)danandben.com; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:10:48 -0700 >Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [12.155.117.29]) > by spf4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDF753581 > for <lloyd_tennison(a)whoever.com>; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:07:49 +0000 (GMT) >Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) > id 1BHqfY-0007Tq-JA; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:56:08 -0400 >Received: from lists.dc.uba.ar ([157.92.27.121] helo=smtp-as.dc.uba.ar) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BH4kn-000667-GZ > for mailman-users(a)python.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:46:21 -0400 >Received: (qmail 26339 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2004 17:45:46 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dc.uba.ar) ([10.0.0.3]) > (envelope-sender <ahgomez(a)dc.uba.ar>) > by ?smtp-as.dc.uba.ar (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted > SMTP for <mailman-users(a)python.org>; 23 Apr 2004 17:45:46 -0000 >Received: (qmail 12859 invoked by uid 1006); 23 Apr 2004 17:45:21 -0000 >Received: from ahgomez(a)dc.uba.ar by goliat by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 > (spamassassin: 2.20. Clear:SA:0(-100.0/4.5 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST > version=2.20):. > Processed in 0.061561 secs); 23 Apr 2004 17:45:21 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO dc.uba.ar) (ahgomez(a)[10.1.254.2]) > (envelope-sender <ahgomez(a)dc.uba.ar>) > by ?smtp.dc.uba.ar (qmail-ldap-1.03) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP > for <seanc(a)cuttlefish.com>; 23 Apr 2004 17:45:21 -0000 >Message-ID: <4089569F.7050307(a)dc.uba.ar> >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:47:11 -0300 >From: Alejandro Gomez <ahgomez(a)dc.uba.ar> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; > rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040322 >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: seanc(a)cuttlefish.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Spam-Status: No, > hits=-100.0 required=4.5 tests=USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.20 >X-Spam-Level: >X-Spam-Status: OK (lists-mailman 0.000) >X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:55:59 -0400 >Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >Subject: [Mailman-Users] cc problem >X-BeenThere: mailman-users(a)python.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users> >List-Post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> >List-Help: <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> >Sender: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org >Errors-To: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org > >hello: >I've the same problem. >Did you find the way to fix it? >thanks in advance > >you wrote: > > >List Users, I have just installed mailman on my linux box to support a >number of (mostly) announcement-only lists. I've followed the FAQ >regarding making my lists announce-only and everything seems to work >apart from one thing - when the message arrives with the recipient it >has the short description of the list and the list e-mail address in the >cc field of the message. Here's an example of a message header: >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:05:21 +0000 From: culturepromotions at >lists.cuttlefish.com ><http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> To: info at >cuttlefish.com <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> >Cc: "The latest news from dub and reggae promotor Culture Promotions (1 >or 2 messages per week)." <culturepromotions at lists.cuttlefish.com ><http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>> >Reply-to: mailouts at culturepromotions.com ><http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> The "from", "to" >and "reply-to" are correct but I really don't want that CC line there! >Anybody able to help me get rid of it? Thanks, Sean > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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Lists not showing up in listinfo page, (yup I read the FAQ.)
by mettius 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

Before you flame, I've read the FAQ and noted the section on this symptom. But it hasn't addressed my problem. If you hit this URI: http://cactusairforce.org/mailman/listinfo You see all lists (including Mailman?!) but if you instead hit this one: http://www.cactusairforce.org/mailman/listinfo you only see the CAF and the Recruitment_list >From the FAQ: "1. the value of the list's 'advertised' option (the first one on the page) of the Privacy Options Section of the list's admin web GUI." This isn't the problem. "2. the value of VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py. If this is set to true (usually 1) then you may be experiencing the effect of Mailman Virtual Host feature. In that case the address in the URL used to access listinfo is compared to the address in the list's 'web_page_url' option (the last one) of the General Options Section of the list's admin web GUI. If they are not the same, the list is not added to the listinfo page returned." If I change this value in Defaults.py (it doesn't appear in mm_cfy.py) to "0", I *can* see all of the lists, unfortunately it also displays all the lists from the other (non virtual) domain on this server. Also, I've checked in the GUI, there is no entry for 'web_page_url' there is one for 'host_name' but this is set for cactusairforce.org (in all the lists). Distro: SuSE Pro 8.2, (x86) mailman-2.1.1-91 -Mettius

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Why am I getting this list from two addresses?
by Kai Schaetzl 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

I get mail for this list from these two: mailman-users-bounces+maillists=conactive.com(a)python.org mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org Why? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org

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exporting real name list
by Paul Phillips 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

I have a mailing list where real names are quite important. I need to be able to output the entire list of member addresses alongside their real names. I imagined list_members would have a flag to do this now that real names are stored somewhere, but I can't see a way to do it. The web interface does not seem to provide any way to see the entire membership at once or I could probably parse it out of the HTML (though that would seem to be needlessly laborious.) Am I missing something simple? Mailman is on debian stable, but running version 2.1.4-1.backports.org.1 from backports.org. Thanks much for any assistance. -- Paul Phillips | Loose limps sink chips. Moral Alien | Empiricist | i'll ship a pulp |----------* http://www.improving.org/paulp/ *----------

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Re: [Mailman-Users] exporting real name list
by lloyd_tennison＠whoever.com 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

Yes. Send a message to the list-requestt with the subject who and the list passwrod, i.e.: to:mailman-users-request@python.org Subject: who listpassword THis will email it back to you, Names and email addresses. From ther you can take it to a word processor and do anything you want with it. ----- Original Message --------------- >Return-Path: <mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org> >Received: from spf10.us4.outblaze.com (205.158.62.72) by mta1.wss.scd.yahoo.com (7.0.016) > id 40723FAA00ABFAB0 for lloyd(a)danandben.com; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:09:03 -0700 >Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [12.155.117.29]) > by spf10.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0EF53631 > for <lloyd_tennison(a)whoever.com>; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:07:34 +0000 (GMT) >Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) > id 1BHptx-00021e-0z; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:06:57 -0400 >Received: from goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.18]) > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BHptt-00021Y-TI > for mailman-users(a)python.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:06:53 -0400 >Received: from user47.net1189.lv.sprint-hsd.net ([69.68.98.47] helo=spoon) > by goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) > id 1BHpts-0006dA-00 > for mailman-users(a)python.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:06:52 -0700 >Received: from spoon ([192.168.1.2]) > by spoon with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BHptq-0001Ni-00 > for <mailman-users(a)python.org>; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:06:50 -0700 >Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:06:50 -0700 (PDT) >From: Paul Phillips <paulp(a)improving.org> >X-X-Sender: paulp(a)spoon.loc >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404251259350.5111(a)spoon.loc> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >X-warning: 207.217.120.18 in blacklist at unconfirmed.dsbl.org > (http://dsbl.org/listing?ip=207.217.120.18) >X-Spam-Status: OK (lists-mailman 0.000) >Subject: [Mailman-Users] exporting real name list >X-BeenThere: mailman-users(a)python.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users> >List-Post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> >List-Help: <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, > <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> >Sender: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org >Errors-To: mailman-users-bounces(a)python.org > >I have a mailing list where real names are quite important. I need to be >able to output the entire list of member addresses alongside their real >names. I imagined list_members would have a flag to do this now that real >names are stored somewhere, but I can't see a way to do it. The web >interface does not seem to provide any way to see the entire membership at >once or I could probably parse it out of the HTML (though that would seem >to be needlessly laborious.) Am I missing something simple? > >Mailman is on debian stable, but running version 2.1.4-1.backports.org.1 >from backports.org. Thanks much for any assistance. > >-- >Paul Phillips | Loose limps sink chips. >Moral Alien | >Empiricist | >i'll ship a pulp |----------* http://www.improving.org/paulp/ *---------- > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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Script not found...
by Jimmi Pennerup 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

Hi. I've tried to get Mailman running, everything seems to be in order exept that I cant get the www interface to work. I keep get this error message in apaches errorlog: [Sun Apr 25 07:48:13 2004] [error] [client 192.168.0.11] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create Have anyone had this problem before?.. //Jimmi

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Using Topic Configuration Selection of Names
by Mark Cranford 25 Apr '04

25 Apr '04

Greetings I tried to post this to a Mailman list-owner list (LO(a)listowner.org) a couple of days ago. I'm the list owner of birding watch list in Ontario. Our host is community outreach network and our software is Mailman 2.1.1. Has anyone used the Topic option? I've been unable to locate (google searches etc) any documentation. I'm thinking that I can search the subject header and first couple of lines of a message for matches from a list of bird names (some could be two or three words) placed in the regexp section. -- Mark Cranford Ontbirds List-Owner cranford AT allstream DOT net Mississauga, Ontario

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