Mailman 3 July 2004 - Mailman-Users

mailman option help
by Adriaan Nel 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

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Farmed addresses from text archive?
by Warren Woodward 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

A subscriber of one of our client's lists today noted that his email address had been farmed by spammers from the list archives. While the archives are indeed public, they had relied on the security of mailman's paranthetical email address manipulation -- which obviously works like a charm -- not noticing that the 'downloadable version' was a straight text file that contained unaltered addresses. To their credit, I had managed to overlook this fact for years now, myself. What do people do to prevent this on their servers? The list owner would like to keep the archives public while protecting his subscribers. Seems to me that we should make the "downloadable version" optional, or perhaps force a zip of its contents to make is less bot friendly? Have I overlooked some options, as usual? -- warren woodward XMission DSL Domo/Mailman warrenw(a)xmission.com (801) 303-0819 (877) XMISSION "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachments by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." :- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, 1928 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." :-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

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Question......
by Eric McGrath 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

I use Mailman for three mailing lists - one of which is posting only by moderator and the other is posting only by members. However, I am being asked to approve all mail on all three lists. How can I make the two so that members can post without my approval? Thanks for any help you can offer. Warmly, Eric McGrath Rev. Eric McGrath, P.O. Box 118, Lively, Ontario P3Y 1M2 "1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given" E-mail - ericmcgrath(a)sympatico.ca Web site - http://www3.sympatico.ca/ericmcgrath Pulpit Supply is a free daily e-mail ministry of fact and fun for the whole family. To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change subscription details, visit: http://lively.ca/mailman/listinfo/pulpitsupply_lively.ca PastorsHelper is a free mailing list for church pastoral staff members, through which to share sermon ideas. To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change subscription details, visit: http://lively.ca/mailman/listinfo/pastorshelper_lively.ca Members can post to: PastorsHelper(a)lively.ca Cancer Support List is a free mailing list for cancer patients and caregivers, through which support can be mutually shared. To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change subscription details, visit: http://lively.ca/mailman/listinfo/cancersupportlist_lively.ca Members can post to: Cancersupportlist(a)lively.ca

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fetchmail to mailman and pipermail
by Tilo Jandt 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Hi, is it possible to get mail with fetchmail and send it to a local mailman mailinglist instead of deliver it to a local user? and another question: How could i change the design of the pipermail output? Where could i insert my css file that every page generated with pipermail will use this css file? cya, Tilo ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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Question
by Yves Bajard 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

I just transferred my m,ailing lists from Majordomo to Mailman 2.1.5, I had used Mailman under ans older version (two years ago) 1. The default is to reject messages sent in bcc. on which page and how do I change to accept messages in bcc from subscribers (implicit destinations) 2. Is there a way to import the majordomo archives from the previous list, or copies of messages to that list which i kept in one mailbox of my evolution 1.6 mailer? If so, how can I do it? 3. Do you have anywhere a detailed operation manual for Mailman 2.1.5? Thanks in advance Yves Bajard, Networking for a Common Future in Sustainability Society (NCFS)- Victoria, BC, Canada

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VERP Issue
by Speedy Gonzalis 31 Jul '04

31 Jul '04

I have recently implemented VERP on a test basis. I have found that valid addresses (namely mine and a few others) now bounce when VERP delivery is enabled. Since I know that my address is valid and that I have not had problems prior to enabling or after disabling VERP, I'm going to make the assumption that this is not a Mailman problem, but that the server on the receiving end is rejecting these messages because it appears to be spam or their mail server is not properly configured. I would be interested if anyone else has seen this or has any comments. Tim

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Mailman having Unicode character problems in moderator request page.
by Scott Garman 31 Jul '04

31 Jul '04

Hi all, I've searched high and low for some answers to this problem and I've seen a lot about it, but no specific fixes for mailman. I hope someone here can help me, as the problem has become critical. I'm running mailman-2.1.4 which is the version included with Mandrake 10, which is the distro I'm running. I also have these python packages installed: libpython2.3-2.3.3 python-2.3.3 python-base-2.3.3 python-numeric-23.1 My problem is this: I received some spam which apparently contains some Unicode characters to a moderated mailing list. At first, I could go to the "pending moderator requests" page and deal with other pending messages, but any time I tried discarding this particular message, mailman would display an error page with the message: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xed' in position 107: ordinal not in range(128) After doing some research and not finding a possible fix for this, I decided to try going in to mailman's queue and deleting the message manually. The way mandrake compiled/packaged it, it looked to me the queue file was in /var/lib/mailman/data/. It was named heldmsg-<mylist>-####.pck. I deleted it and restarted the mailman service. Apparently that was Not A Good Thing (TM), because now going to the pending moderator requests page shows that message, and I can no longer deal with my incoming messages. Please, can anyone help? Thank you, Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 228, in main num += show_helds_overview(mlist, form) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 473, in show_helds_overview mlist.HandleRequest(id, mm_cfg.DISCARD) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 184, in HandleRequest forward, addr) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 373, in __handlepost syslog('vette', note) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py", line 40, in write self.write_ex(kind, msg, args, kws) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py", line 58, in write_ex logf.write(msg + '\n') File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 73, in write Logger.write(self, "%s %s" % (prefix, msg)) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 91, in write f.write(msg) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xed' in position 107: ordinal not in range(128)

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process order for postings
by Anne Watters 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

I just found out that my host will only allow a limited number of emails to be sent at one time. My list exceeds this amount. How do I know what members rec'd my posting? In what order are they processed? Alphabetical?

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Subscription requests vanish
by Marc Lanctot 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

Hi guys, I'm a system administrator at McGill University. We're in the process migrating an old FreeBSD lab to Linux. One thing I'm in charge of is updating the mailing list. Here's my setup: The webserver for the CND department is located as www.cnd.mcgill.ca, which points to cube.cnd.mcgill.ca (132.216.11.165). We're using sendmail for email, hosted on mailhost.cnd.mcgill.ca which also points to cube.cnd.mcgill.ca. I'm using Fedora Core 2. GNU Mailman was setup via apt. I followed all the instructions in INSTALL.REDHAT and README in /usr/share/doc/mailman. I setup a default mailing list called "mailman" for testing. I set DEFAULT_URL_HOST to 'www.cnd.mcgill.ca', and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST to 'cnd.mcgill.ca' as instructed via comments in the /var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file. Now, I send an email from my address (<< firstname . lastname >> @ mail.mcgill.ca) to mailman-subscribe(a)cnd.mcgill.ca. This uses the McGill-wide SMTP host mailhost.mcgill.ca. tcpdump (ran on cube, see below) shows me that there is indeed SMTP communication between mailhost.mcgill.ca(seen as 'deluge' below) and cube.cnd.mcgill.ca. The mailman /var/log/mailman/subscribe file shows lines like so: Jul 30 18:55:28 2004 (17315) mailman: pending Marc Lanctot <marc.lanctot(a)mail.mcgill.ca> marc.lanctot(a)mail.mcgill.ca and /var/log/mailman/smtp: Jul 30 19:03:07 2004 (17403) <mailman.0.1091226527.17107.mailman(a)cnd.mcgill.ca> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.009 seconds but smtp-failure shows lines like so: Jul 30 19:03:07 2004 (17403) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: <mailman.0.1091227549.17254.mailman(a)cnd.mcgill.ca> Jul 30 19:03:07 2004 (17403) delivery to marc.lanctot(a)mail.mcgill.ca failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused') So it seems that some machine is refusing SMTP connections somewhere, but it doesn't say which machine!! No smtp packets even showed up from cube in the TCP dump (maybe this is only sucessfully received packets?) other than to mailhost.mcgill.ca. I expected to see some smtp communication on the local machine to send out bouncebacks or something. What I do know id that mailman or sendmail does an MX lookup on my email's domain (mail.mcgill.ca) at some point because it shows up in tcpdump. But other than that, it's stuck there contacting some smtp host and not getting through it seems... Sorry for the long email! Any help is gladly appreciated. Marc % tcpdump | grep smtp 18:42:11.846880 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: S 3817025147:3817025147(0) win 24820 <nop,nop,sackOK,mss 1460> 18:42:11.846967 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: S 2808362076:2808362076(0) ack 381702 5148 win 5840 <mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK> 18:42:11.847246 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: . ack 1 win 24820 18:42:11.856482 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: P 1:89(88) ack 1 win 5840 18:42:11.856816 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: . ack 89 win 24820 18:42:11.857171 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: P 1:27(26) ack 89 win 24820 18:42:11.857196 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: . ack 27 win 5840 18:42:11.858926 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: P 89:315(226) ack 27 win 5840 18:42:11.859378 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: P 27:77(50) ack 315 win 24820 18:42:11.865593 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: P 315:369(54) ack 77 win 5840 18:42:11.865948 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: P 77:126(49) ack 369 win 24820 18:42:11.870542 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: P 369:480(111) ack 126 win 5840 18:42:11.872207 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: P 126:975(849) ack 480 win 24820 18:42:11.911346 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: . ack 975 win 6792 18:42:11.911692 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: P 975:978(3) ack 480 win 24820 18:42:11.911748 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: . ack 978 win 6792 18:42:11.917176 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: P 480:536(56) ack 978 win 6792 18:42:11.942546 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: P 978:984(6) ack 536 win 24820 18:42:11.942734 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: P 536:585(49) ack 984 win 6792 18:42:11.942845 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: F 585:585(0) ack 984 win 6792 18:42:11.943052 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: F 984:984(0) ack 585 win 24820 18:42:11.943077 IP cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp > deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640: . ack 985 win 6792 18:42:11.943147 IP deluge.CC.McGill.CA.59640 > cube.cnd.mcgill.ca.smtp: . ack 586 win 24820

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Sending user request using emails generated with php
by Maciej Homziuk 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

Dear list Members, I have a mailinglist, in which many participants have problems with simplests programs. That's why I decided to write a simple php script which would send the request emails (delivery on/off and password) to mailman. The user has only to fill in the form (email, password and on/off radiobutton) and then to klick the send button. The php sends an email to mailman (with appropriate request. Unfortunatelly it doesn't work when I'm sending emails from php (although it works, when I send the emails using my local email program). This is the raw view of the email that is being sent using php script: Return-path: <maciej.homziuk(a)cougarsoft.de> Envelope-to: maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:42:03 +0200 Received: from [212.227.253.149] (helo=light.dvbberlin.de) by mxng16.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BqVlz-0003Ym-00 for maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:42:03 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=infongd3280) by light.dvbberlin.de with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BqVlz-0001yY-00 for maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:42:03 +0200 Received: from [217.235.21.7](IP may be forged by CGI script) by infongd3280.rtr.kundenserver.de with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:42:03 +0200 X-Sender-Info: 71251665@infongd3280 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:42:03 +0200 Precedence: bulk To: maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de Subject: password From: <maciej.homziuk(a)cougarsoft.de> Message-Id: <E1BqVlz-0001yY-00(a)light.dvbberlin.de> X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 0 1 PIIQE6VO.CNM and this is the raw view of email that is being sent using local email program: Return-path: <maciej.homziuk(a)cougarsoft.de> Envelope-to: maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de Delivery-date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:38:27 +0200 Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by mxng11.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BqViU-0006gU-00 for maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:38:26 +0200 Received: from [217.235.21.7] (helo=bziuna-rkwbv1cp) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BqViU-00012D-00 for maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:38:26 +0200 From: "Maciej Homziuk" <maciej.homziuk(a)cougarsoft.de> To: maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:44:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: password Message-ID: <410A50BC.19651.1118559@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse(a)kundenserver.de auth:4c700552894602d0c7f651480d0b4a85 X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 0 1 PFWH0Q2N.CNM I checked the postfix logfiles and saw, that both emails reached the server, but only the one sent using program made mailman sending answer. Can You tell me how can I solve that problem? Thanks, Maciej ----------------------------------------------- Maciej Homziuk deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de Mahlower Str. 23 12049 Berlin maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de http://www.deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de Telefon: 030-78909042 Fax: 030-78909041

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Mailman-Users July 2004