Mailman 3 July 2004 - Mailman-Users

Instructions: Upgrading Mailman On Mac OS X Server 10.3
by Richard Plotkin 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

Hi, After a ridiculous amount of struggle, I've successfully upgraded Mailman on Mac OS X 10.3 Server where it will work with Apple's Server Admin application and also by the web interface. There may be a better way, but here's what I did, which at the very least shows the essential files (two of them apple-specific, which is why it's been a pain to upgrade from source). 1) Backup your current Mailman folders in case you screw this up. Mailman is split between two locations: /usr/share/mailman /private/var/mailman 2) Copy apple_config_list and get_list_info from /usr/share/mailman/bin . I tarred these files and put them on my desktop with tar -cvf ~/Desktop/binfiles.tar apple_config_list get_list_info 3) Rename your current /usr/share/mailman directory 3) Download Mailman source. 4) Configure mailman with the following command (modify this to fit your server). It assumes that gid 78 is mailman and gid 70 is www. ./configure --prefix=/usr/share/mailman --with-var-prefix --with-mail-gid=78 --with-cgi-gid=70 --with-mailhost={your server's name} --with-urlhost={your server's name} 5) Run sudo make install. 6) Extract the files you copied in (2) into /usr/share/mailman/bin I copied the tar into bin, and the extracted: cd /usr/share/mailman/bin sudo cp ~/Desktop/binfiles.tar . sudo tar -xvf binfiles.tar sudo rm binfiles.tar 7) Change configuration parameters in your new installation: Add MTA = 'Postfix' to the end of /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (or just replace it with the old mm_cfg.py) Change VAR_PREFIX from '/var/mailman' to '/private/var/mailman' in Defaults.py (this shouldn't actually matter) 8) Open Disk First Aid. Repair permissions. You should be good to go!

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2 questions
by Tilo Jandt 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Hi, is it possible to get mail with fetchmail and forward it to a local maillinglist? and second question: how and where could i change te design of the pipermail output? I wan't to insert my own CSS File to every generated archivepage but i don't know where. thanks and cya, Tilo ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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Send mail through web interface.
by Paul H Byerly 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

On 05:01 AM 7/29/2004, mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: >I want to add some functionality to send an e-mail to a list in MailMan >through a web page. For anyone to reach this web page they will have to >be authenticated as a subscriber of the list. The web page will send an >e-mail to the list from a hidden e-mail address which will be the only >e-mail address that is allowed to post messages to the list. The reason >for this is that the list should be as private as possible. > > > >Could anyone give me some hints as to where to start? I had this running fairly well a while back. Mine actually verified the users account and put it in the from of the e-mail, but you can easily change that to a hard coded from. I did this on version 2.1.2, so there may be some changes. My biggest problem was cookies, but if you are not trying to put a user name in the e-mail that is less of an issue. I'm way to busy to offer any help, but here are some notes and examples that should get you going. The demo pages will not work because some of the scripts are no longer installed. A demo that was hard coded to be from one of my accounts - this may be all you need. http://www.thcwd.com/mmtest.shtml Information and code - will give you what you need to make the above work: http://www.thcwd.com/webposting.txt Full demo page http://www.thcwd.com/webposting.shtml Good luck! <>< Paul

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Send mail through web interface.
by Paul H Byerly 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

On 05:01 AM 7/29/2004, mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: >I want to add some functionality to send an e-mail to a list in MailMan >through a web page. For anyone to reach this web page they will have to >be authenticated as a subscriber of the list. The web page will send an >e-mail to the list from a hidden e-mail address which will be the only >e-mail address that is allowed to post messages to the list. The reason >for this is that the list should be as private as possible. > > > >Could anyone give me some hints as to where to start? I had this running fairly well a while back. Mine actually verified the users account and put it in the from of the e-mail, but you can easily change that to a hard coded from. I did this on version 2.1.2, so there may be some changes. My biggest problem was cookies, but if you are not trying to put a user name in the e-mail that is less of an issue. I'm way to busy to offer any help, but here are some notes and examples that should get you going. The demo pages will not work because some of the scripts are no longer installed. A demo that was hard coded to be from one of my accounts - this may be all you need. http://www.thcwd.com/mmtest.shtml Information and code - will give you what you need to make the above work: http://www.thcwd.com/webposting.txt Full demo page http://www.thcwd.com/webposting.shtml Good luck! <>< Paul

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Admin login problems
by Terry Robbins 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Mailman has been working fine on our Mac OSX Server 10.3.4 for months. This morning when attempting to log in to the Admin interface Mailman is suddenly returning an error. Can anyone point me in the right direction to resolve this issue? Log in attempt returns the following: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 194, in main mlist.Save() File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 515, in Save self.__save(dict) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 487, in __save os.unlink(fname_last) OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: '/private/var/mailman/lists/mes-office/config.pck.last' <snip> Python Information and Environment Variables</Snip> Thanks in advance. Terry

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Send mail through web interface.
by Thomas Bruusgaard 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Hi, I want to add some functionality to send an e-mail to a list in MailMan through a web page. For anyone to reach this web page they will have to be authenticated as a subscriber of the list. The web page will send an e-mail to the list from a hidden e-mail address which will be the only e-mail address that is allowed to post messages to the list. The reason for this is that the list should be as private as possible. Could anyone give me some hints as to where to start? Specifically: * Authenticate that the user is a subscriber of the list * Send an e-mail from a web page on a linux server Thanks very much in advance! Thomas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.717 / Virus Database: 473 - Release Date: 08/07/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.717 / Virus Database: 473 - Release Date: 08/07/2004

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Involuntary attachment archiving bug
by Christian Balzer 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Hello, Versions first, this is Debian Sarge, so mailman 2.1.4-5 and python 2.3.4-1. And I'm perfectly fine to take this up with the Debian package maintainer, but I believe this to be not entirely distribution specific. 2 days ago a mailing list here stopped working while all other lists on the same server continued to work. All new mails to it wound up in qfiles/shunt and a typical error.log entry looked like this: --- Jul 28 16:06:58 2004 (27374) SHUNTING: 1090998399.1266079+7ffb6a7f9ae96f08b57292134da84fc995792442 Jul 28 16:10:07 2004 (27374) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 36] File name too long: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/abuse/attachments/20040727/f9525c89/iso-2022-jpBSRskQicwGyhCNSAtIDVJIC0gODYgLSAbJEInISdfJ1QnXSdaJ20bKEIiso-2022-jpBGyRCJ2MnXCdaJ1sbKEIgGyRCJ2MbKEIgGyRCJ2EnYidWJ2EnYCdVGyhCiso-2022-jpBGyRCJ1EnUydRJ2QnViddJ3EnXidaGyhCIBskQidaGyhCiso-2022-jpBGyRCJ1kbKEIgGyRCJzMbKEIgGyRCJzobKEIgGyRCJyEbKEIuZW1s.mht' Jul 28 16:10:07 2004 (27374) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 110, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 160, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 240, in process url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 447, in save_attachment fp = open(path, 'w') IOError: [Errno 36] File name too long: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/abuse/attachments/20040727/f9525c89/iso-2022-jpBSRskQicwGyhCNSAtIDVJIC0gODYgLSAbJEInISdfJ1QnXSdaJ20bKEIiso-2022-jpBGyRCJ2MnXCdaJ1sbKEIgGyRCJ2MbKEIgGyRCJ2EnYidWJ2EnYCdVGyhCiso-2022-jpBGyRCJ1EnUydRJ2QnViddJ3EnXidaGyhCIBskQidaGyhCiso-2022-jpBGyRCJ1kbKEIgGyRCJzMbKEIgGyRCJzobKEIgGyRCJyEbKEIuZW1s.mht' --- Note that: a) archiving is turned off for list. b) it rejected ALL mails like this, no matter if they actually had attachments or not. An unshunt of course did not fix things and in the end I "fixed" things the M$ way by blowing away the original list and re-creating it. After that the unshunt worked and new mails did get through fine, too. Alas it's still archiving (just) attachments, so I can foresee this happening again... So my question is: What the heck is causing it to archive those attachments in the first place? I don't want this stuff archived, esp. not considering it might trigger the above bug again. Of course somebody who understands the code might also want to take a look what caused it to create these oversized filenames (again, even for mails w/o attachments), since some lists do use archiving here. A guess would be something in a .db or .pck of that list did overflow, it sees a LOT of traffic (1000 mails/day). Regards, Christian Balzer -- Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer NOC chibi(a)gol.com Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Network Services http://www.gol.com/

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Moderating from the command line
by David Richards 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Hi all, I need to bounce messages automatically to certain lists - at the moment they sut waiting for moderation. These lists have a select number of senders, the rest I just need to bounce. Can I write a script to bounce these using the command line or something? Any ideas, anyone?? Thanks, David Richards Senior Network Programmer Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology

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Postings From AOL - Problems
by Hunter Hillegas 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

We are running 2.1.5 with Sendmail on RHEL 2.1. We have a announce-only list. The announcer is sending from AOL client v8. This client CAN ONLY send HTML mail. There is no way (according to AOL) to get it to send plain text. The list is setup to filter the content and convert to plain text. We don't want any HTML going out, just plain text. He always sends from the same machine. Sometimes the messages are unreadable by a large group of the list members. When they are unreadable, the content type is: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1909480117==" Normally, the content type is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I guess what I am asking is if anyone knows how this encoding is taking place. I assume it is the AOL client... But if anyone knows anything about this or how he can prevent the system from doing this... He's not super computer savvy and he's getting frustrated. Any help is appreciated. Hunter

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Pre-approved messages
by Michael Ewens 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

I am trying to build a web interface that sends mail to a Mailman list (using Mailman 2.0.13). Using php, I am constructing and sending a message (using the mail() function). I have added: Approve: <password> to the header information of a text/plain and text/html email, neither being approved. Instead, I have to log-in to the web interface and approve each message. It is this step that I hope to avoid. I think that the best solution would be a command line one, but I can't find any Mailman docs related to sending approved messages from the command line. Any suggestions would be very helpful. Michael

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