Mailman 3 September 2004 - Mailman-Users

List admin and moderator addresses?
by Ram Dak Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

Hello, I know this must sound like a dumb question, but should the list admin and moderator email addresses be added to the list of subscribers to enable them to receive messages? This Mailman list is set up as a discussion group. Thanks, Ramdak __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Membership Reminder Fails
by Speedy Gonzalis Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

We have about 600 list running on a RH Linux box with Postfix and Mailman 2.1.4. Since we have upgraded to the new version from v2.0.8 we have no been able to successfully send a monthly membership reminder to our entire membership. It has bombed at various points during the run. Below is an error I got when trying to run it the last time. It looks like it has something to do with languages, and I have seen some "UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)" errors in the logs from time to time as well. Can someone put me on track to getting this fixed? Thanks in advance. Tim Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/cron/mailpasswds", line 238, in ? main() File "/var/mailman/cron/mailpasswds", line 218, in main i18n.set_language(poplang) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 35, in set_language language) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/gettext.py", line 248, in translation t = _translations.setdefault(key, class_(open(mofile, 'rb'))) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/gettext.py", line 106, in __init__ self._parse(fp) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/gettext.py", line 180, in _parse k, v = item.split(':', 1) ValueError: unpack list of wrong size

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-1 moderator requests
by Young, Darren Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

I have several lists that were migrated from an older version of Mailman that are now receiving something like: The listname(a)gsb.uchicago.edu mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: Any way to fix this?

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[Mailman-Users] trouble with setup: Cron, receiving mail outside lan
by Jim Dory Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

I'm a newb with this and am a bit overwhelmed with the installation and docs. Been searching the archives but hoping for quick help, as I suspect I made a dumb error. I'm installing on Suse 7.3, I have python 2.1.1 and latest stable mailman. Using Sendmail. I have it working more or less on local lan, but outside of it, email clients do not receive mail from it. They can send. I get error messages locally to my root and user email accounts on the server every 5 minutes or so: " Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:39:53 -0800 From: mailman-owner(a)linux.local To: root(a)linux.local Subject: Cron <mailman@linux> /usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news Parts/Attachments: 1 Shown 5 lines Text 2 Shown 1 KB Message, "Cron <mailman@linux> /usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news" 2.1 Shown 10 lines Text ---------------------------------------- You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at mailman-owner(a)linux.local. [ Part 2: "Included Message" ] Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:30:02 -0800 From: Cron Daemon <root(a)linux.local> To: mailman(a)linux.local Subject: Cron <mailman@linux> /usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 284, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 259, in main lock.lock(timeout=0.5) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 243, in lock self.__write() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 422, in __write fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/locks/gate_news.lock.linux.23031.0' " Here's a snip of my mm_cfg.py: ############################################### # Here's where we get the distributed defaults. from Defaults import * ################################################## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.dorydesign.com' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'dorydesign.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (I thought you would add the actual host names under the add_virtualhost line but it returns errors when trying to start or stop mailman). I figure it is probably a simple mistake or overlook. Hopefully someone can lend a hand. I can post more info - just not sure what is needed. My /etc/aliases contains the suggested aliases from the INSTALL. My hosts file has 127.0.0.1 localhost and then also its IP Address and linux.local (the name of server). Not sure if I need to add anything more there. Perhaps I just need more in my mm_cfg.py file ? or perhaps a permission problem with cron? Thank you very much for reading and also to anyone who may offer ideas/inquiries!!! cheers, JD.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with setup: Cron, receiving mail outside lan
by Jim Dory Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

Dan Phillips wrote: > > > Have you run bin/check_perms -f ? the obvious cause of the error is a > permission issue, but check_perms doesn't always find everything. > FWIW, my locks directory is 775 and the lock files themselves are 664. > Before even messing with that, however, if you have no need for the > NNTP gate, then comment out the gate_news in the mailman crontab and > you don't have to worry about it :-) > > BTW, did you install from source? If so, know that Mailman-2.1.5 (the > latest) requires python 2.3. > > Dan > > ================================ > Dan Phillips > Professor of Horn, University of Memphis > site administrator: music.memphis.edu > > Hello Dan, Thanks for the reply! Check_perms had some errors and with -f it no longer reports any errors. The problem could well be the older python version. I installed python via a package on the Suse 7.3 disks as I could not find one that worked otherwise. I downloaded the latest source for python and I got back gcc ./configure errors. I found an rpm of python that was perhaps for suse 8 and it didn't work either. So that is why I went with the older python. The only one I could get to install. I could search more for an upgrade, but didn't have luck the first time. I've thought of upgrading to Debian on the server but really didn't want to go through the hassle (learning curve and time)- but maybe that would be an alternative. I'll try commenting out the NNTP gate (haven't researched what it is yet - don't even know if I need it). Locks directory under /usr/local/mailman is drwxrwsr-x, as is all of those directories. But if it ain't gonna work with python 2.1.1, maybe that is where my attention should lie? As an aside, should I reply to the list? When I hit reply, or reply-all, it does not include the mailman list. Seems odd. cheers, JD

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Upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1.5 breaks on pending_subscriptions.db
by Fergus Donohue Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

Has anyone else come across this and if so what's the solution? I'm running an upgrade of our mailman install in a test environment and it's breaking with the following error. I'm running on Solaris 8 with Python 2.3.4. The 2.0 version of Mailman was using python 1.6. phoenix on old-hawk {731}# ls -la /home/misc/mailman/data/pending_subscriptio> -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 97 Aug 16 14:27 /home/misc/mailman/data/pending_subscriptions.db phoenix on old-hawk {732}# tail -10 fd.ins.3 Updating Mailman 2.0 pending_subscriptions.db database Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 780, in ? errors = main() File "bin/update", line 704, in main update_pending() File "bin/update", line 583, in update_pending addr = data[0].address AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'address' make: *** [update] Error 1 If I dump pending_subscriptions on a box that can dump .db files I get: phoenix {353}# ./dumpdb /tmp/pending_subscriptions.db { 448473: ('emanuel.soreteanonescu2(a)mail.dcu.ie', 'cycbtsvf', 0, 1089674437), 'lastculltime': 1089723840} phoenix {354}# Does anyone have any ideas what's going on? Thanks, Fergus.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Looking for Yahoo style email list
by J C Lawrence Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 13:52:47 -0500 Paul <Mailman(a)Kettle.org> wrote: > I am looking for something that can be both an email list and a BBS > style web page like Yahoo Groups. I want an email list that if the > user chooses can read and post to the list from a web page like the > Yahoo Groups. You might like to see the current implementation of the archives at Kanga.nu, and then read the User FAQ on how that was accomplished. other reasonable approaches would enclude using a GMane-like setup. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Wierd error
by Thomas von Hassel Sept. 7, 2004

Sept. 7, 2004

When folks try to mail password reminders they get this error: Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 249, in main loginpage(mlist, doc, user, language) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 813, in loginpage table.AddRow([_("""In order to change your membership option, you must File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 89, in _ return tns % dict ValueError: unsupported format character 'p' (0x70) at index 105 Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.2.3 (#1, Jun 19 2003, 22:18:51) [GCC 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform freebsd4 any ideas what went wrong ? /thomas

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email bouncing back to sender...
by Nathan K. Stazewski Sept. 6, 2004

Sept. 6, 2004

I'm not sure if this is a problem on the listserv side.or if bowdoin edu's. I didn't see anything about this on previous postings, so I thought I'd ask. Basically, whenever this user tries to post to our listserv, it waits 2 days and says it can't deliver. I never see the email to be able to approve it. We don't seem to be having any other problems.just this one user. Thanks in advance. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:37:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Internet Mail Delivery <mailto:postmaster@mail.bowdoin.edu> <postmaster(a)mail.bowdoin.edu> To: wcadge(a)bowdoin.edu This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields: Return-path: <mailto:wcadge@bowdoin.edu> <wcadge(a)bowdoin.edu> Received: from mail.bowdoin.edu by mail.bowdoin.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) id <mailto:0I3I000MG25XPH@mail.bowdoin.edu> <0I3I000MG25XPH(a)mail.bowdoin.edu>; Sat, 4 Sep 2004 00:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bowdoin.edu (mail [139.140.14.83]) by mail.bowdoin.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <mailto:0I3D007M6QLTRV@mail.bowdoin.edu> <0I3D007M6QLTRV(a)mail.bowdoin.edu> for Class97(a)alumni-office.swarthmore.edu; Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [66.92.75.203] by mail.bowdoin.edu (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:37:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:37:05 -0400 From: Wendy Cadge <mailto:wcadge@bowdoin.edu> <wcadge(a)bowdoin.edu> Subject: that time again....classnotes To: Class97(a)alumni-office.swarthmore.edu Message-id: <mailto:b7238b632e.b632eb7238@bowdoin.edu> <b7238b632e.b632eb7238(a)bowdoin.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 2 days to the following recipients: Recipient address: Class97(a)alumni-office.swarthmore.edu Reason: unable to deliver this message after 2 days Delivery attempt history for your mail: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:57:39 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:53:55 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:50:11 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:46:27 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:10:48 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:07:04 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 07:03:19 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 02:59:34 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:55:50 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:52:04 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:48:20 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:44:35 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:40:50 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed out The mail system will continue to try to deliver your message for an additional 1 day. _______________________ Nathan K. Stazewski Assistant Director Alumni Relations Swarthmore College Swarthmore, PA 19081 610-957-6103 Fax: 610-328-7796 <file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\NStazew1\Application%20Data\Microsoft \Signatures\www.swarthmore.edu> www.swarthmore.edu

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Rejecting Posts from some members
by David Richards Sept. 6, 2004

Sept. 6, 2004

Hi, We have a need to restrict the senders of a list to a very small number of people. These people may or may not be members of the list. All other posts we wish to reject, how can this be acheived? At the moment, the following are set: default_member_moderation = no (no members set to moderation) member_moderation_action = reject accept_these_nonmembers = ['bloggs(a)domain.com','abc(a)xyz.com'] generic_nonmember_action = reject abc(a)xyz.com is a member of the list. Thanks in advance, David Richards Senior Network Programmer Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology

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