Mailman 3 January 2005 - Mailman-Users

umbrella lists and avoiding duplicates
by Peter Schneider-Kamp Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Is there nowadays a good way of avoiding dupes, i.e., multiple posts of the essentially same message to one list? Also, I would like to have some umbrella lists. I have found an old thread in the archives (from April 2001) which proposes syncing the user lists of the umbrella list with the members of the sub-lists. Is this still state of the art or is there a better solution? Kind regards, Peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG … [View More]

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Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released
by Tokio Kikuchi Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

Hi, I put together a tarball for Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 and placed on my Japanese Mailman site at: http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6b2.tgz This is the second beta release of 2.1.6 which are roughly scheduled to be released by the end of February. Please grab it from above site and upgrade your mailman. Change from 2.1.6b1 are mainly subject prefix problems for Mutt (and other?) users and translation catalog template (pot) also. Here is excerpt from NEWS file: 2.1.6 (XX-XXX-200X) … [View More] - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a latex document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for details. - VERP_PROBES is disabled by default. - bin/withlist can be run without a list name, but only if -i is given. Also, withlist puts the directory it's found in at the end of sys.path, making it easier to run withlist scripts that live in $prefix/bin. - bin/newlist grew two new options: -u/--urlhost and -e/--emailhost which lets the user provide the web and email hostnames for the new mailing list. This is a better way to specify the domain for the list, rather than the old 'mylist@hostname' syntax (which is still supported for backward compatibility, but deprecated). - Added the ability for Mailman generated passwords (both member and list admin) to be more cryptographically secure. See new configuration variables USER_FRIENDLY_PASSWORDS, MEMBER_PASSWORD_LENGTH, and ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH. Also added a new bin/withlist script called reset_pw.py which can be used to reset all member passwords. Passwords generated by Mailman are now 8 characters by default for members, and 10 characters for list administrators. - Allow editing of the welcome message from the admin page (1085501). - A potential cross-site scripting hole in the driver script has been closed. Thanks to Florian Weimer for its discovery. Also, turn STEALTH_MODE on by default. - Chinese languages moved from 'big5' and 'gb' to 'zh_TW' and 'zh_CN' respectively for compliance to the IANA spec. Note that neither language is supported yet. - Python 2.4 compatibility issue: time.strftime() became strict about the 'day of year' range. (1078482) - New feature: automatic discards of held messages. List owners can now set how many days to hold the messages in the moderator request queue. cron/checkdb will automatically discard old messages. (790494) - Improved mail address sanity check. (1030228) - SpamDetect.py now checks attachment header. (1026977) - New feature: subject_prefix can be configured to include a sequence number which is taken from the post_id variable. Also, the prefix is always put at the start of the subject, i.e. "[list-name] Re: original subject", if mm_cfg.OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING is set No. The default style is "Re: [list-name]" if numbering is not set, for backward compatibility. If the list owner is using numbering feature by "%d" directive, the new style, "[list-name 123] Re:", is always used. - List owners can now use Scrubber to get the attachments scrubbed (held in the web archive), if the site admin permits it in mm_cfg.py. New variables introduced are SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME and SCRUBBER_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME_EXTENSION in Defaults.py for scrubber behavior. (904850) - Filter attachments by filename extensions. (1027882) - Bugs and patches: 955381 (older Python compatibility), 1020102/1013079/ 1020013 (fix spam filter removed), 665569 (newer Postfix bounce detection), 970383 (moderator -1 admin requests pending), 873035 (subject handling in -request mail), 799166/946554 (makefile compatibility), 872068 (add header/footer via unicode), 1032434 (KNOWN_SPAMMERS check for multi-header), 1025372 (empty Cc:), 789015 (fix pipermail URL), 948152 (Out of date link on Docs), 1099138 (Scrubber.py breaks on None part), 1099840/1099840 (deprecated % insertion), 880073/933762 (List-ID RFC compliance), 1090439 (passwd reminder shunted), -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ [View Less]

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Mailman list failing intermittently
by Tracey McCartney Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

Hi: Newbie to this list, but I've been using Mailman for a couple of years now. I have NEVER had any trouble with it and recommend it to everyone who asks. I have several Mailman lists running on a Cpanel hosting service (Total Choice Hosting - good company). Today, or perhaps starting yesterday, messages to one of my lists simply stopped, for the most part, going through. Occasionally throughout the day one has made it through, but it might be the third attempt to send the message. In … [View More]

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use of Python strings in template files
by Christopher Adams Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

I have posted this question to the list before, but have never resolved it. I am looking at the files in the template directory, specifically newlist.txt and verify.txt. The newlist file is the information sent to list owners when the list is set up. The verify file is the information sent to confirm an email address when a person subscribes to a list that requires confirmation. I want to make some changes to this information, which affects all lists. I can make some changes, but some … [View More]

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Problems with SUSE Linux 9.1 YOU upgrade from 2.1.3 Mailman to 2.1.4 Mailman.
by Tim Smith Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

[NOTE: This is a "I did it!" story.. the fix is at the bottom of this post :) ) Just wanted to make a report here about some problems I had upgrading Mailman from 2.1.3 to 2.1.4 using Yast Online Update (YOU) in Suse 9.1 AMD64. It broke my web-based GUI, and spit this error into my apache error logs: [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.4 -----] [Tue … [View More]Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR [----- Traceback ------] [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] Traceback (most recent call last): [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 241, in ? [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] run_main() [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 69, in run_main [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] import xml.sax.saxutils [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] ImportError: No module named xml.sax.saxutils [Tue Jan 25 12:43:57 2005] [error] [client IPADDR] [Mailman: low level unrecoverable exception] And the output of the Web browser going to the mailman location gives this error: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Content-type: text/html We're sorry, we hit a bug! Mailman experienced a very low level failure and could not even generate a useful traceback for you. Please report this to the Mailman administrator at this site. --------------------------------------------------------------------- So, I googled around, and found that this error is very common in 2.1.4 version. Just google for "Mailman Low level failure" and you'll get a lot of web pages like the one I just pasted, all for 2.1.4. I got some help from Don Burns from this list, he told me all I need to do is install python-xml. (Thanks Don!!) So, I used the trusty YAST and searched for python-xml and installed it. Wham-Bam, it works. I guess 2.1.4 version expects python-xml as a depends, whereas the earlier versions didn't care about that. I wanted to document this so maybe it''ll come up quicker for some poor sucker like myself googling around for this answer :) Cheers, Tim Smith [View Less]

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Can't delete user with "quotes" around name
by Eric Elder Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

I'm trying to delete a user using the web interface that has been accidentally signed up with quotes around their name like this: "username"@domain.com I can't change anything about this user...can't change their mod bit, hide bit or any other attribute either. Is there another way to delete their name from the system? Eric

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How to generate user list?
by Stephen Edmondson Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

I have my mailing list setup in announce-only mode and have had trouble pulling a list of all of the users. Via the FAQ, I've sent out requests to the mailman-request address and only received this back: " The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Usage: who See everyone who is on this mailing list. - Done." I've had the same results when I've changed the privacy options for who can view the list. Any help … [View More]

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mailman dont send messages
by Carsten Henkel Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

Guten Abend mailman-users, im using suse 9.1 with mailman 2.1.4. mailman has a problem with sending mails: Jan 25 18:24:25 2005 (31930) delivery to radio(a)chatlabel.de failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') did you have any idea ? the adress radio(a)chatlabel.de is aktiv. i can send mails to it. thanks and have a nice day mm_cfg.py: from Defaults import * #DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'chatlabel.de' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'chatlabel.de' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.chatlabel.de' … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list passwords
by Mark Sapiro Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

Ernest Byaruhanga > >when i use ./mmsitepass -c, i create a new list creator password >succesffully, and i can log into the list admin site with it. however, >even the old list-creator password is still able to be used to log in to >the list admin interface. is there somefile where these passwords are >stored so i can delete them from there? There are several passwords. List Creator, set by mmsitepass -c, authorizes list creation only. Shouldn't authorize list … [View More]

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Fetchmail? + mailmain + SMTP on different servers
by Glen Low Jan. 25, 2005

Jan. 25, 2005

Dear All, This seems elementary but I can't figure out how to do it. Nor could I google it out either... A web hosting company hosts my domain.com. I also have an ISP which sends out email for me, running SMTP at say, isp.com. I want to set up a list list(a)domain.com, but run Mailman on my own servers. Presumeably I need to get fetchmail to retrieve the email via POP and pass it onto Mailman, but how to configure this? Is this possible NOT to run any MTA on my own server? Is there a … [View More]

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