Mailman 3 December 2005 - Mailman-Users

Any problem in listening to localhost for an announcement mailing list instead of my ip.ad.re.ss?
by Munzir Taha 25 Dec '05

25 Dec '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sir, This is the first time I install a mailing list so I am not sure whether what I am doing is correct or had some side effects. I installed mailman in my lists.mydomain.com where lists.mydomain.com. 3600 IN MX 10 lists.mydomain.com. mydomain.com. and netstat -ap shows tcp localhost.domain:smtp *:* LISTEN - since my sendmail.mc is set to DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl One problem is that aliases I added to /etc/aliases won't work and one can't subscribe to the mailing list via sending a 'reply' to the subscripitoin confirmation notice and need only to click the confirmation url so I would need to edit files such as verify.txt, invite.txt, and unsub.txt and omit that relavent 'confirm %(cookie)s' part. Am I going against any recommendation here? - -- Munzir Taha Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar Maintainer of the OpenBugs project page at http://www.arabic-fedora.org/munzir/OpenBugs.html Master CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101 Riyadh, SA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDqRS6OBlicvBnGCERAg76AJ9jpuUiROnazpYEDCve9/EGHh4atACcCEtR 71t3F/ggMsPDTaMdLLasgSU= =CDap -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mailman Error
by nagarajan 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

Hello, I am using redhat 9.0 I have Installed Mailman Using the RPM from the redhat9.0 CD. Whenever i am trying to open it i am getting the error the felow.Please let me know the solution. Thanks Nagarajan System admin iWave Systems Bug in Mailman version 2.1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 68, in run_main immediate=1) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 49, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 67, in __get_f 1) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/codecs.py", line 496, in open file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/mailman/error' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and any attachment (s) is for authorised use by the intended recipient (s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to the legal privilege of iWave Systems Technologies Private Limited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from retaining, using, copying, alerting or disclosing the content of this message. Thank you for your co-operation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and any attachment (s) is for authorised use by the intended recipient (s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to the legal privilege of iWave Systems Technologies Private Limited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from retaining, using, copying, alerting or disclosing the content of this message. Thank you for your co-operation.

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filename too long error - stopping list
by mikeraz＠patch.com 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

I have a list that was sent a file with an attachement with too long a name. (See error below) now all mail to the list is being shunted. the filename listed does not exist on my system. There is no file on my system with that name. The directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/rca-l/attachments/20051207/3d04c3a4 is empty. What do I need to do to resolve this problem? ========== Error message ===================== Dec 22 06:08:46 2005 (2233) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 36] File name too long: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/rca-l/attachments/20051207/3d04c3a4/iso-8859-1QThe_surface_of_the_SunA0_The_sun_has_a_rigid_iron_surfaceiso-8859-1Q_located_under_the_photosphere_that_is_revealed_by_satelliiso-8859-1Qte_imagery.A0_The_solar_surface_sits_beneath_the_suns_viiso-8859-1Qsible_photosphere_and_is_electrically_active..obj' Dec 22 06:08:46 2005 (2233) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 265, in process url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 447, in save_attachment fp = open(path, 'w') IOError: [Errno 36] File name too long: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/rca-l/attachments/20051207/3d04c3a4/iso-8859-1QThe_surface_of_the_SunA0_The_sun_has_a_rigid_iron_surfaceiso-8859-1Q_located_under_the_photosphere_that_is_revealed_by_satelliiso-8859-1Qte_imagery.A0_The_solar_surface_sits_beneath_the_suns_viiso-8859-1Qsible_photosphere_and_is_electrically_active..obj' Dec 22 06:08:46 2005 (2233) SHUNTING: 1135258825.4376719+99568bcc1187c910d48aae8b9ae8f68ed3aa643b ========== Error message ===================== -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be appropriate && Follow your curiosity http://www.patch.com/words/ The fortune cookie says: Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. -- W. C. Fields

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Failed Upgrade: System now down for 2.5 days HELP
by mcnutt 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

I foolishly tried to upgrade from mailman 2.0.x to Mailman 2.1.6, and I heartily repent of my sin. I have attempted to restore back to my working version, but its still not running. Can anyone help me? Bill McNutt IT Administrator, UT Center for Literacy Studies http://cls.coe.utk.edu -----Original Message----- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@cls.coe.utk.edu] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:59 AM To: mcnutt(a)utk.edu Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:58:36 -0500 (EST) from utk-cls.ra.utk.edu [160.36.208.91] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post cls-news" (reason: 1) (expanded from: <cls-news(a)cls.coe.utk.edu>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/post", line 94, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/post", line 73, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 892, in Load dict, e = self.__load(dbfile) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 869, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/cls-news/config.db' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

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Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list
by Ben 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

Hi folks, Aside from the Apache problem, I can't seem to get Mailman to create a list. This is on Cygwin. I give the command: $ newlist friends Enter the email of the person running the list: ben(a)ahualoa.net Initial friends password: Create a new, unpopulated mailing list. Usage: /usr/local/mailman/bin/newlist [options] [listname [listadmin-addr [admin- password]]] Options: (...a whole bunch of explanation...) Illegal list name: friends@LittleGuy Now, "LittleGuy" is just the name of my local host; it's not the fully-qualified domain. I don't know why Mailman is trying to use it, but I figured that I could force it otherwise: $ newlist --urlhost=ahualoa.net --emailhost=ahualoa.net friends(a)ahualoa.net Enter the email of the person running the list: ben(a)ahualoa.net Initial friends password: (....) Illegal list name: friends@LittleGuy This doesn't make any sense at all. I'm telling Mailman very explicitly which domain to create the list on. Why is Mailman still trying to use my local hostname? Thanks, Ben

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editing archive template
by Joe Mezzanini 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

How do I edit the archibve template? Which is here (for me)? http://maillist.themezz.com/pipermail/themezz-themezz.com/ thanks, Joe -- http://cnyEats.com http://theMezz.com

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Seaching the contents of archives
by Elvis Fernandes 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

Hello, Is there a way that the contents of mailman archives can be made searchable? Without mailman, the users could find/search for content using their mail reader. There are private internal mail lists of the company, and I am looking at ways to give the users a mailman/pipermail search feature. Any information will be appreciated. Regards Elvis

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Create mail list which user cannot un-subscribe
by Elvis Fernandes 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

Hello, I am trying to create a mail list where users DO NOT have the choice to un-subscribe. Is there a way that this can be accomplished in mailman? Any help is appreciated. Regards Elvis

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Large mailing lists
by ross＠lug.udel.edu 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

Hello everyone, I've got some questions on a mailman server that's currently performing non-optimally. The server has four lists of about 200,000 recipients each. They are announce-only subscription lists that receive an occasional post. Despite being low traffic, we have some consistency issues. 1) Organization: the current setup is designed so that a post to the list does not generate overwhelming amounts of traffic at once. The list owner posts to each list spaced out by a few hours. Does a setup like this give any real benefit, or just cause headaches? Should we consider cutting up the lists further? 2) Recipient expansion: Currently, Mailman is running it's default recipient expansion to postfix, which sends via SMTP. Since the postfix server only accepts mail locally, I have considered making these changes: a) Remove any recipient restrictions from postfix smtpd b) Set Mailman to send a single message with all recipients c) Set Postfix to limit outgoing messages to <20 recipients The goal of this is two fold: a) We have far more postfix expertise in-house than Mailman. When there is an issue with Mailman, it's hard to solve. We've got more people capable of solving issues at the MTA level. b) Postfix keeps logs for each outgoing message, giving us an easy way to keep track of a message that is being sent. Does anyone see any pros/cons with this? 3) Comparison: Is anyone else running lists this large? I've found some list server usage surveys online, but most of them have "30,000 and above" as their largest class of addresses. Thanks for the help! -- Ross Vandegrift ross(a)lug.udel.edu "The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell." --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

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Re: [Mailman-Users] receiving list mail from account towhich mail cannot be delivered
by webster＠lexmark.com 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

Mark (& Dan (& others)), Thanks for the info. I figured my #1&2 question was available in the webgui somewhere, but I just didn't notice that 'Privacy options' expands. I [now] guess that's what the '...' is for, huh ? :-) Anywho, your comments on my #3 question, below, gets me to thinking. I could have the 'config_list -i path/to/file/above' just run whenever, like from cron, no ? Even better, if there were some kind of 'trigger' to hook when a new list is created from the web... Gary R. Webster Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> 12/21/05 06:19 PM To: webster(a)lexmark.com, mailman-users(a)python.org cc: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] [mailman-users] receiving list mail from account towhich mail cannot be delivered webster(a)lexmark.com wrote: > >I see two ways to do this: >1) Make it a list member with 'nomail' checked. >2) When this account first tried to send e-mail to a list, it was not a >member, the note was held, & the moderator was notified. On the >moderators html page (/admindb/), I can check the box 'Add ... sender' & >select the radio button 'Accepts' . > >So, now a few questions: >1) Can/How #2 be done before-hand (before the e-mail is held because the >sender is not a member of the list), on the website ? >2) related to #1: How can this 'accept this address as sender' be undone >? For both 1 and 2 go to the admin Privacy options...->Sender filters page and look at the Non-member filters. >3) & most importantly: Is there a way to make this default for all new >[created] lists ? Can I set some 'default' so that a specified e-mail >address is either accepted as a sender without being a member, or make it >a member which doesn't receive mail ('nomail'), for all new lists at their >creation ? No. You can set DEFAULT_GENERIC_NONMEMBER_ACTION = 0 in mm_cfg.py, to accept posts from all non-members by default until you change it, but this isn't what you want. You could do something like the following: Create a file containing the one line accept_these_nonmembers = ['the_bot(a)example.com'] Then you could create a shell script similar to #!/bin/sh bin/newlist $1 bin/config_list -i path/to/file/above $1 and use that to create lists. I can't think of a similar way to do this if you want to create lists from the web. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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