Mailman 3 February 2005 - Mailman-Users

mmsearch now python?
by Gerald 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Perhaps I'm missing something really obvious. I maintain a server running the mailman software. It's a FreeBSD 4.9 server running mailman-2.1.5_2. After the upgrade the mmsearch command will not run from the cgi directory. Running it gets: *** Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: No such file or directory *** I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what permission or problem with apache would cause this since it all looked right. I installed this from the ports collection. Then I ran across a link in my history for that server that pulled up listinfo from the cgi-bin. listinfo worked. Upon further inspection I saw that the mmsearch file was not updated in the upgrade: -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17738 Feb 19 14:46 admin -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 admindb -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 confirm -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 create -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17754 Feb 19 14:46 edithtml -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17890 Oct 8 2003 htdig -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17754 Feb 19 14:46 listinfo -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17906 Oct 8 2003 mmsearch -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 options -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 private -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 rmlist -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17742 Feb 19 14:46 roster -rwxr-sr-x 1 www mailman 17754 Feb 19 14:46 subscribe Which ones of these guys don't look like the others? *grin* htdig-3.2.0.b6 is installed on this machine and I found these: ../Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py ../Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.pyc & -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 119892 Feb 17 14:26 /usr/local/bin/htdig Not being a python coder myself, I don't know if I'm supposed to set up apache to execute the python scripts or if there is a way to compile these. I'm just really at a loss at the moment for what to do next. The date on the htdig in /usr/local/bin seems to indicate mailman is using an old htdig. I don't know how to create/get a newer mmsearch though. How do I get the mmsearch working again in the cgi directory with the htdig and web server? The documentation and archives don't seem to mention mmsearch much. Thanks for any help or suggestions in advance. Gerald

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Additional role
by Young, Darren 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Yep, we use moderators already. Looking for a third (user management) role or adding that to the moderator role (selectively). > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:49 PM > To: Young, Darren; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Additional role > > Young, Darren wrote: > > >First question, can a moderator add/delete/modify list membership (I > >don't believe so, thought that was admin only)? > > Only an admin can do this, but just to be sure we're on the > same page, who is an admin and who is a moderator in this > context is determined by who knows which list admin|moderator > password. It has nothing to do with who's address in in which > list attribute. > > >Second, if not, has anyone created patch(es) to perform this? > > I'm not aware of any. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > >

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A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
by Matt Clark 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Hi I'm also getting an identical error to Chris Boulter > Oddly, when there is a text body as well as binary attachments, the > attachments seem to be silently dropped without mention, and there is no > hyperlink to retrieve them. Is there any reason why this might happen? I'm running Version 2.1.5. of mailman. I've tried applying the patch 891491 scrubber.py last ammended by Tokio Kikuchi In Sept 2004 using the following command Patch -p1 < /path/to/patch With no joy. >> patch -p1 < /tmp/scrubber.patch.20040912 >> can't find file to patch at input line 5 >> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? >> The text leading up to this was: >> -------------------------- >> |Index: Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py >> |=================================================================== >> |--- Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py (.../trunk) (revision 21) >> |+++ Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py (.../branches/scrubber_branch) (revision 21) >> -------------------------- Any ideas ?? Thanks Matt Clark mc(a)niss.ac.uk

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Mailing list
by Norm Williams 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

I find that I am not getting mail and those trying o send mail to me get the following message. I have not subscribed to Mailman and I need help! Your mail to 'Norm.williams' with the subject test Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://submarinesaustralia.com/mailman/confirm/norm.williams_submarinesaustr alia.com/7c50475bde2c1c7788feab4bb0fc186d02085ce2

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htdig-2.1.5-0.1.patch mismatches
by Nick Urbanik 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Dear Folks, When I unpacked tar xvzf /home/nicku/RPM/SOURCES/mailman-2.1.5.tgz and applied the htdig patch, I found many things did not quite fit. Is some other patch a prerequisite or do I just need to manually mess with this to make it fit? $ zcat /home/nicku/RPM/SOURCES/htdig-2.1.5-0.1.patch.gz | patch -p1 patching file INSTALL patching file INSTALL.htdig-mm patching file INSTALL.htdig-mm.html patching file Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py Hunk #2 succeeded at 607 (offset -2 lines). Hunk #3 FAILED at 727. Hunk #4 succeeded at 744 (offset -6 lines). Hunk #5 succeeded at 821 with fuzz 1 (offset -4 lines). 1 out of 5 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py.rej patching file Mailman/Cgi/htdig.py patching file Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py patching file Mailman/Cgi/private.py patching file Mailman/Cgi/remote-mmsearch patching file Mailman/Cgi/remote_mmsearch patching file Mailman/Defaults.py.in Hunk #1 FAILED at 1235. Hunk #2 succeeded at 1232 with fuzz 2 (offset -17 lines). 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Mailman/Defaults.py.in.rej patching file Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py patching file Makefile.in patching file bin/Makefile.in patching file bin/blow_away_htdig patching file bin/check_perms patching file configure patching file configure.in patching file cron/Makefile.in patching file cron/crontab.in.in patching file cron/nightly_htdig patching file cron/remote_nightly_htdig patching file cron/remote_nightly_htdig.pl patching file cron/remote_nightly_htdig_noshare patching file src/Makefile.in patching file templates/da/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/en/TOC_htsearch.html patching file templates/en/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/en/archtocnombox.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 10 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/en/htdig.html patching file templates/en/htdig_access_error.html patching file templates/en/htdig_auth_failure.html patching file templates/en/htdig_conf.txt patching file templates/fr/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 11 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/hr/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/hu/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/it/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/it/archtocnombox.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 10 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/ja/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/lt/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 11 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/no/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/no/archtocnombox.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 10 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/pl/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/pt/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 13 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/ro/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 13 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/ru/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 11 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/sl/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/tr/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). patching file templates/uk/archtoc.html Hunk #1 succeeded at 12 (offset -1 lines). -- Nick Urbanik RHCE http://nicku.org nicku(at)nicku.org Proud ex-member of Dept. of Information & Communications Technology in Hong Kong IVE (Tsing Yi), Home of Visual Paradigm: Jolt Productivity Award winner, programmed by ICT's own graduates! GPG: 7FFA CDC7 5A77 0558 DC7A 790A 16DF EC5B BB9D 2C24 ID: BB9D2C24

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Mailman error was emailed to user mailman
by Terry Allen 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Hi again, Just wondered if someone can look at the following for me. Mailman sent the following traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 87, in main mlist.Save() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 525, in Save self.__save(dict) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 497, in __save os.unlink(fname_last) OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last' It was emailed to the mailman user on the server. It seems to be something to do with the digest sending, but other than than, I can't see anything. I get a similar sort of message (though nothing to do with digests) when I go to either the admin or listinfo page in the web interface. Should the web interface work for the actual mailman master list or is it limited to running from a command line? Many thanks for any hints. -- Bye for now, Terry Allen ___________________________________________________________________ hEARd Postal Address: hEARd, 26B Glenning Rd, Glenning Valley, NSW 2261, Australia Internet - WWW: http://heard.com.au http://itavservices.com EMAIL: hmag(a)ozemail.com.au Phone: Australia - 02 4388 1400 / International - + 61 2 43881400 Mobile: Australia - 04 28881400 / International - 61 4 28881400 ----------------------------------------------- Non profit promotion for new music - since 1994 -----------------------------------------------

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htdig search patch #444884: What symlinks are required?
by Nick Urbanik 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Dear Folks, I have built a mailman RPM for FC3 as mentioned earlier. It seems to be working except for this item on http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444884&group_id=10… (the htdig patch #444884). On that page it is written: This patch integrates htdig with Mailman and provides: [snip] 5. automatic creation, deletion and maintenance of htdig configuration files and such. Beyond installing htdig and telling Mailman where it is via mm_cfg you do not have to do any other setup. Well not quite you do have to set up a single per installation symlink to allow htdig to find the automatically generated per list htdig configuration files. THE QUESTION: What symlinks are required from what to where? Sorry to be such an idiot, but I really haven't worked it out yet, and would really appreciate some further hints. I'm new to mailman and htdig administration. -- Nick Urbanik RHCE http://nicku.org nicku(at)nicku.org Proud ex-member of Dept. of Information & Communications Technology in Hong Kong IVE (Tsing Yi), Home of Visual Paradigm: Jolt Productivity Award winner, programmed by ICT's own graduates! GPG: 7FFA CDC7 5A77 0558 DC7A 790A 16DF EC5B BB9D 2C24 ID: BB9D2C24

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RE: Mailman error was emailed to user mailman
by Terry Allen 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Hi again, Additionally, I should add in addition to my last email that Mailman is otherwise working fine, including sending out list messages as well as the web interface. -- Bye for now, Terry Allen ___________________________________________________________________ hEARd Postal Address: hEARd, 26B Glenning Rd, Glenning Valley, NSW 2261, Australia Internet - WWW: http://heard.com.au http://itavservices.com EMAIL: hmag(a)ozemail.com.au Phone: Australia - 02 4388 1400 / International - + 61 2 43881400 Mobile: Australia - 04 28881400 / International - 61 4 28881400 ----------------------------------------------- Non profit promotion for new music - since 1994 -----------------------------------------------

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Additional role
by Young, Darren 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

First question, can a moderator add/delete/modify list membership (I don't believe so, thought that was admin only)? Second, if not, has anyone created patch(es) to perform this? Need to split list duties into a more granular level, specifically, we need to have the ability to allow moderator(s) to manage list membership. Without being able to actually touch the list configuration. As in: User Admin Moderate MembershipMgmt ---------------------------------------------------- jj(a)aa.com X aa(a)bb.com X X Or some such thing.... ------------------------------------------------------------- | Darren Young | http://www.chicagogsb.edu | | Senior UNIX Administrator | darren.young(a)chicagogsb.edu | | University of Chicago GSB | darren.young(a)gsb.uchicago.edu | -------------------------------------------------------------

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suspicious header
by Con Wieland 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Hello I have a user receiving the following: [Fwd: [OCLUG] Internship] Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message has a suspicious header Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: I am assuming it's being caught because of the " [Fwd: " but I am unable to see where I can fix this. The list config is very vanilla. Any help would be appreciated. I was unable to find anything in the FAQ TIA Con Wieland UC Irvine

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