Mailman 3 March 2005 - Mailman-Users

po editors for mac
by Robert Garrigós 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Does any one know of any .po editor for macosx already compilated? I don't know of any and am not used to compilate for macosx. Thanks -- Robert Garrigos Mon Classic Musical sl. Assessorament i execucio de projectes d'internet www.monclassic.com www.cataloniahosting.com 685 972 934

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MM within virtual hosting environment
by Aras 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Hello, I know this kind of questions were posted here quite often (yes, I've done my homework <grin>). I have searched FAQ and archives, however, haven't found anything similar to my problem. The closest was FAQ answer: 4.47. Virtual domain hosting with Mailman? - not for me, however... :( I started a mailing list within virtual VPS environment with several domains hosted. Now, a strange thing is happening. Mailing list headers are showing something like the following: quote ===== List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.DOMAIN-1.com/mailman/listinfo/list-name>, <mailto:list-name-request@DOMAIN-1.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.DOMAIN-2.COM/pipermail/list-name> List-Post: <mailto:list-name@DOMAIN-1.com> unquote ======= Please note TWO domain names involved here. Why is that and how this could be avoided i.e. - how to change DOMAIN-2 to DOMAIN-1 in the headers? Thank you! Aras.

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old domain showing up
by Troy Richard 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

I changed the domain on my mail list. When I log into the admin site all the links still show the old domain. Anybody know what i need to do to change this. Thanks Troy

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Re: Moderator ability to manager users
by Don 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

>From: Brad Knowles <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator ability to manager users >To: "Peter McCarroll" <peter(a)mccarroll.org> >Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >Message-ID: <p0620070fbe6a0654e640(a)[10.0.1.3]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > >At 9:25 AM -0800 2005-03-24, Peter McCarroll wrote: > >> I have a number of Mailman lists on my server. I want to retain control >> of the list configuration settings centrally (and not give out the >> administrator password to others), but allow each list "owner" to moderate >> and manage the subscriptions. > > Mailman doesn't work that way. Moderators can approve, reject, >or discard postings that have been held for them to look at, but >that's about it. If you want to do anything more, you need to be an >Administrator. > > Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any alternatives to give you more >fine-grained control over who can do what. Actually I was going to ask about the same thing. Would be great if there were a way to give 'line item control' to list owners based on their 'track record' of credibility (brains?) over time. Some guys probably just won't have a clue why they shouldn't change certain things. MM is very well set up but there is so much stuff to learn that just the volume made the learning curve daunting at first. Limited access that 'grows' would keep that more sane for some newbie list owners as well as the poor slob who has to fix the stuff they mess up. /noisemaking Don

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FW: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error
by Ross Anderson 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

-----Original Message----- From: Brad Knowles [mailto:brad@stop.mail-abuse.org] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 2:32 PM To: ross(a)dsotm.net Cc: John W. Baxter; Mailman Users; Ross Anderson Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error At 1:46 PM -0600 2005-03-25, Ross Anderson wrote: > Well the confusion I seem to be having here is cyrus-mailman related > since it is the program handling local quota's. Cyrus bounces mail > when single mail is recieved from local or outside mail accounts. What LDA do you have configured for use with Cyrus? I'm confused here with what you are referring to when you say local delivery agent. Postfix is the MTP that delivers to cryus-imap via its own lmtp "local" agent. I have attached the postfix .cf files below. > This > odd behaviour only occurs with mailman which is why I'm a bit puzzled. > I'd like to get the message bouncing back to mailman right away like > it does with users that are not locally hosted. I think that this is a difference in the way that the LDA is called, or perhaps using different Cyrus-compatible LDAs. At the very least, you need a lot more information about how your MTA is configured to talk to your LDA, and how your LDA is configured to handle certain situations. -- Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. alias_database = hash:/etc/mail/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases biff = no command_directory = /usr/sbin config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024 daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 20 default_privs = mailman local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2 local_recipient_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual.cf, proxy:hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman, $alias_maps mailbox_transport = cyrus mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/share/man maximal_backoff_time = 9000s minimal_backoff_time = 4000s mydestination = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual.cf, $mydomain myhostname = mail.owbn.org mynetworks_style = host myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases owner_request_special = no proxy_read_maps = proxy:hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman queue_run_delay = 2000s readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.0.16-r1/readme recipient_delimiter = + sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.0.16-r1/sample sender_canonical_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-canonical.cf sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = postdrop smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, check_client_access hash:/etc/mail/popip, reject_unauth_destination, reject_rhsbl_client blackhole.securitysage.com, reject_rhsbl_sender blackhole.securitysage.com soft_bounce = no unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 unknown_virtual_alias_reject_code = 550 virtual_alias_domains = /etc/postfix/virtual_domains virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual.cf, proxy:hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman relay_destination_concurrency_limit = 50 relay_destination_recipient_limit = 100 ###Master.cf # ======================================================================== == # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args # (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100) # ======================================================================== == smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o cleanup_service_name=pre-cleanup #smtps inet n - n - - smtpd # -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes #submission inet n - n - - smtpd # -o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes #628 inet n - n - - qmqpd pickup fifo n - n 60 1 pickup -o cleanup_service_name=pre-cleanup pre-cleanup unix n - n - 0 cleanup -o virtual_alias_maps= -o canonical_maps= -o sender_canonical_maps= -o recipient_canonical_maps= -o masquerade_domains= qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 qmgr #qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 nqmgr #tlsmgr fifo - - n 300 1 tlsmgr rewrite unix - - n - - trivial-rewrite bounce unix - - n - 0 bounce defer unix - - n - 0 bounce flush unix n - n 1000? 0 flush proxymap unix - - n - - proxymap smtp unix - - n - - smtp relay unix - - n - - smtp # -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5 cleanup unix n - n - 0 cleanup -o mime_header_checks= -o nested_header_checks= -o body_checks= -o header_checks= showq unix n - n - - showq error unix - - n - - error local unix - n n - - local virtual unix - n n - - virtual lmtp unix - - n - - lmtp ###for amavisd below DONT TOUCH 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter= -o local_recipient_maps= -o smtpd_helo_restrictions= -o smtpd_client_restrictions= -o smtpd_sender_restrictions= -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o relay_recipient_maps= -o smtpd_restriction_classes= -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8 -o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes -o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0 -o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001 -o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000 #smtp-amavis unix - - y - 2 smtp -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes -o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o disable_dns_lookups=yes smtp-amavis unix - - y - 5 lmtp -o lmtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o lmtp_send_xforward_command=yes maildrop unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/local/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient} old-cyrus unix - n n - - pipe flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus/deliver -e -m ${extension} ${user} cyrus unix - n n - - pipe user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus/deliver -e -r ${sender} -m ${extension} ${user} uucp unix - n n - - pipe flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender - $nexthop!rmail ($recipient) ifmail unix - n n - - pipe flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $nexthop ($recipient) bsmtp unix - n n - - pipe flags=Fq. user=foo argv=/usr/local/sbin/bsmtp -f $sender $nexthop $recipient

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Moderator ability to manager users
by Peter McCarroll 25 Mar '05

25 Mar '05

I have a number of Mailman lists on my server. I want to retain control of the list configuration settings centrally (and not give out the administrator password to others), but allow each list "owner" to moderate and manage the subscriptions. Mailman does not seem to allow for the moderator to manage subscriptions, or for the subscription manager to not be allowed to change the list configuration. Any suggestions on how this can be achieved?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman difficulties: OS X, create list bug
by Jason Miller 25 Mar '05

25 Mar '05

Dan, Thanks! That seems to have taken care of the "bug" problem. Jason On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: > > On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Jason Miller wrote: > >>> -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 16384 25 Mar 08:47 aliases.db > > alaises.db must be group writable. See > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp > and chmod it to 660. > > Dan > > > ================================================================ Jason E. Miller, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Mathematics Truman State University Kirksville, MO http://pyrite.truman.edu/~millerj/ 660.785.7430

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mailman difficulties: OS X, create list bug
by Jason Miller 25 Mar '05

25 Mar '05

Dear Mailman users, I've been trying to get mailman 2.1.5 to work on my OS X (10.3.8, not server) machine for some time. I have root access. My postfix mail agent is working correctly (I can send email from my box and receive mail). I've used Larry Stone's archive posting to guide my installation of mailman. If anyone can tell me what I can do to get mailman up and running on my machine, I'd be most grateful. I seem to be able to create new lists, but whenever I do, I get an error that looks like this: > We're sorry, we hit a bug! > > If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy > of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what > happened. Thanks! > Traceback: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/Applications/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main > main() > File "/Applications/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main > process_request(doc, cgidata) > File "/Applications/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in > process_request > sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) > File "/Applications/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in > create > _update_maps() > File "/Applications/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in > _update_maps > raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) > RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias > /Applications/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not > permitted) I've checked the permissions on /Applications/mailman/data/aliases, and look for yourself (though I've deleted many bounce events that are in this directory): > drwxrwsr-x 18 root mailman 612 25 Mar 08:42 . > drwxrwsrwx 23 mailman mailman 782 25 Mar 08:38 .. > -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 41 21 Mar 11:15 adm.pw > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 6668 25 Mar 09:03 aliases > -rw-r----- 1 mailman mailman 16384 25 Mar 08:47 aliases.db > -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 10 14 Nov 15:42 > last_mailman_version > -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 4 24 Mar 14:50 master-qrunner.pid > -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 14110 25 Mar 08:42 sitelist.cfg I've run the check_perms -f command several times. I've run Disk Utility and repaired permissions once. I've rerun check_perms -f a few more times. Here's an excerpt from my system log. The last two entries correspond to my trying to send email to a list on my machine from my machine. > Mar 25 09:06:52 pyrite postfix/smtpd[8549]: fatal: accept connection: > Socket operation on non-socket > Mar 25 09:07:36 pyrite sudo: millerj : TTY=ttyp1 ; > PWD=/Applications/mailman ; USER=root ; COMMAND=bin/check_perms -f > Mar 25 09:07:40 pyrite sudo: millerj : TTY=ttyp1 ; > PWD=/Applications/mailman ; USER=root ; COMMAND=bin/check_perms -f > Mar 25 09:09:41 pyrite postfix/smtpd[8557]: fatal: accept connection: > Socket operation on non-socket > Mar 25 09:09:52 pyrite postfix/smtpd[8561]: fatal: accept connection: > Socket operation on non-socket > Mar 25 09:10:00 pyrite CRON[8567]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) > Mar 25 09:10:00 pyrite CRON[8566]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S > /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news) > Mar 25 09:10:00 pyrite CRON[8565]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S > /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news) > Mar 25 09:10:03 pyrite postfix/smtpd[8568]: fatal: accept connection: > Socket operation on non-socket > Mar 25 09:10:26 pyrite postfix/smtpd[8569]: fatal: accept connection: > Socket operation on non-socket Thanks in advance for any thoughts you can share or any pointers to good references on this problem. ================================================================ Jason E. Miller, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Mathematics Truman State University Kirksville, MO http://pyrite.truman.edu/~millerj/ 660.785.7430

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AOL Issues
by Terry Smith 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Hello, I read a article you posted on a website about aol and bouncing email due 554 error....could you tell me if you have heard any information on this or what causes the problem please email me at the following address amok(a)datakeep.net

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unknown mailer problems
by Ashley M. Kirchner 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

So right now I'm faced with the following error: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so why would python complain that it can't open it? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

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