Mailman 3 April 2005 - Mailman-Users

Help: mailman, permissions, IOError (OS X, 10.3.8)
by Jason Miller April 25, 2005

April 25, 2005

Dear Mailman-users, I had mailman working just dandy, and then I think I did something to break it. You can get the backstory if you think it's relevant, but I don't think it's relevant at this point. Since the start of this problem (Friday), I've searched the mailman-user archive for help, Googled, tried some 'common sense' approaches, reconfigures-and- reinstalled about twenty times, and talked with local linux gurus, all to no avail. And so I come to the list for help. I decided to … [View More]resurrect mailman by doing a clean install of 2.1.5 using Larry Stone's excellent instructions at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-September/ 039600.html. These instructions plus a postfix comment from Dan Phillips enabled me to get mailmun up and running the first time. Unfortunately, I'm not having much success this time, and I was hoping I might benefit from some of the list's accumulated experience to help me move forward. I'm setting up mailman-2.1.5 in OS X 10.3.8. My MTA is postfix. Initially, I thought I had mailman working. There were no hiccups while I was following the Stone instructions for installing mailman. (I do depart from his instructions by configuring with --with-mail-gid=mailmaninstead of nobody because past experience led me to believe that 'nobody' makes postfix unhappy; could these be where I am going wrong?) I can create a list from the command line and through the web interface. I cannot, however, distribute email. Email invitations sent to members do not get sent. Email sent to a list does not get distributed. I've subscribed several test email accounts to each list (one on localhost, one on yahoo, and other school address), and no mail goes to any of the accounts. Root does receive a stack of emails, however. At least one every five minutes. The text of the email looks like this: Subject: Cron <user@pyrite> /usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/sh> X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/Users/user> X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/usr/bin:/bin> X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=user> X-Cron-Env: <USER=user> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:30:01 -0500 (CDT) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 284, in ? main() File "/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 264, in main process_lists(lock) File "/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 199, in process_lists mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 128, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 593, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 559, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck' I've also received similar emails (permission errors) that involve gate_news, and aliases. I've changed permissions by hand (chmod), and I've modified Defaults.py so that all mentions of NNTP are commented out, but this approach is just guesswork on my part. I know that postfix is very sensitive to permissions, and I also know (from experience, now) that check_perms -f isn't thorough, because if it were I wouldn't be having these problems. (FWIW, postfix check doesn't suggest to me any errors, either.) Meanwhile, my system.log still has entries that look like Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7432]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7433]: (mailman) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news) Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7434]: (millerj) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news) Apr 25 14:35:00 pyrite CRON[7435]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news) even though I don't have a News<->Mailman gateway configured. In fact, I've tried to make sure that mailman understand I do not want such a gateway, but I guess I've not been successful. I feel like fixing the IOError that's announced by the emails I've been getting will be a major step in the right direction for me. If anyone can help me do that, or point out any other stupid errors I've made, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Jason ================================================================ Jason E. Miller, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Mathematics Truman State University Kirksville, MO http://pyrite.truman.edu/~millerj/ 660.785.7430 [View Less]

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Followup: "No Address associated with nodename"
by Andy Skuse April 25, 2005

April 25, 2005

Problem: Mailman won't receive or send posts, and logs indicate a "low level SMTP error: (7, "No address associated with nodename"). I found a brief discussion of this topic in the archives but a resolution still hasn't yet been posted that I've seen. Does anyone have any new information? MM v 2.14 for OS 10.3.x. Thanks. Andy Skuse

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Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
by kalin mintchev April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

> Because they're not on the list, their posts are held for moderation, hence the notification. right. but.. if they are not on the list they should not be approved - i mean the posting is allowed ONLY to members (member_posting_only) so why is mailman holding messages for approval that's not coming from members at all? > I don't remember if you have an option to > discard them in 2.0.13 - it's at least two years out of date. In 2.1.x, you have the option of holding, rejecting, … [View More]

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Changing Contact Mailing Address
by Staven Bruce April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

Hi All, I've reviewed the FAQ's but didn't find what I was looking for, so I'm hoping someone here will have an idea. I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and on the standard 'Lists Overview Page', underneath the 'Welcome Message', there is a text line that states, "If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mailman(a)mydoman.com". I am trying to figure out how to configure Mailman so that messages sent to 'mailman(a)mydomain.com' go to a specific address such as john.smith(a)mydomain.com. … [View More]

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Permission problem
by Bob Applegate April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

I just installed Mailman 2.1.5 on a FreeBSD 5.3 machine. Some of it appears to work properly, but I still have a permission problem. When creating a list via the mailman/creat web page, I get an error: OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/njqrp.mbox' When I look in that directory, I see that the file is not created. My web software is running as user www, not mailman. I tried setting the setuid bit for applications in the bin directory, but it … [View More]

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subscribe and unsubscribe not working
by desi6n＠myway.com April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

Hello, When I send an email to (as an example) mylisyname-request(a)mywebsite.com with the subject subscribe - it does not subscribe me. When I send an email to (as an example) mylisyname-request(a)mywebsite.com with the subject unsubscribe it does not unsubscribe me. I can subscribe and unsubscribe through the administration page but not through email - any ideas why? Thanks _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Multiple moderator messages
by Jack Ziegler April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

Hello, We recently installed mailman 2.1.5, and are just starting to move it into production. There are a couple of problems: 1) the checkdbs job is generating multiple messages to owners/moderators of lists, notifying them of pending messages. The cron logs show a single run, but the smtp logs show 3 "injections" into the mailman queue for "list-owner" of a list. 2) when a new list is created the owner gets a message saying there are "-1 moderator requests waiting". Logging into the … [View More]

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setting topics by email
by Alastair (UKWA) April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

Hi, I've had a look around the archives & FAQ for this, but I can't see if you can set the topics to subscribe to via email? Is this possible, or do you have to go through the web interface? The reason I ask is that I'd like to set up a nice, easy form on the site for an announcement type list, and allow people to pick the topics they are interested in straight away. The easiest way I can see to do this is to create a form that sends an email to mailman, and then it emails the … [View More]

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Transferring a Mailman list from one web host to another
by Stephan Golux April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

There are several issues involved when moving from one web hosting provider to another, and wanting to take the mailing list with. I am curious about all of these, and would love some insight from someone who understands this better than I. 1. How do you transfer the list archives, so they remain usable on the new host as they were on the old? 2. How do you transfer the list characteristics, so that it operates in the same fashion without having to retype and re-enter everything? 3. … [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Changing Contact Mailing Address
by Staven Bruce April 24, 2005

April 24, 2005

Ok, so I've figured my issue out, but I would really appreciate someone explianing to me what's happening. I'm using Mailman version 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0 update 4. Originally, Mailman made two entries in /etc/aliases under 'Mailman Aliases': #mailman aliases mailman: postmaster mailman-owner: mailman However when I set up the recommended 'Mailman' site list, these two entries were duplicated under 'Mailman Mailing List': #mailman mailing list mailman: "|/… [View More]var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-owner: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" As a result, /etc/aliases was complaining about having identical aliases. So what I decided to comment out one of the duplicate entries. However, what I found was that if I commented out the 'mailman' entry under the 'Mailman Aliases' section, any mail sent to mailman(a)mydomain.com **seemed** to disappear. It wasn't sent to me, it wasn't returned and it wasn't held in the MTA que. But then I found if I uncommented the 'mailman' entry under the 'Mailman Aliases' section and commented out the 'mailman' entry under the 'Mailman Mailng List' section, then mail sent to mailman(a)mydomain.com was delivered to me with no problem. So, now I'm just trying to figure out why this happens? Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: John Dennis [mailto:jdennis@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:03 PM To: Jardar Eggesbø Abrahamsen Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Changing Contact Mailing Address On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 21:41 +0200, Jardar Eggesbø Abrahamsen wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, John Dennis wrote: > > > It's not the members page, its the General Options page, > > http://your-server/mailman/admin/mailman > > > > It the second item down labeled "The list administrator email > > addresses." > > Wouldn't that be the address that messages for mailman-owner(a)domain.tld > are sent to? Whereas messages for mailman(a)domain.tld are sent to the > member(s) of the mailman list? Or did I miss something? People don't email to the mailman list, its not meant to exist as a mailing list. It serves a structural (admin) purpose, for example so there is an origin for password reminders. There are normally no members of the mailman list, its a special list often called the "site list". -- John Dennis <jdennis(a)redhat.com> ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/staven.bruce%40valleyai r.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp [View Less]

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