Mailman 3 May 2005 - Mailman-Users

Mailman just doesn"t send the messages... :-(
by Laurent Lesage 29 May '05

29 May '05

Hi all, I'm using Debian Sarge, with postfix and apache. I'v installed mailman (2.1.5.8) and everything works fine... except that the mails don't go out! In fact, it seems like mailman doesn't talk to postfix at all. In my "/var/log/syslog" where postfix logs his tasks, I see that the messages are received and are "aliased" to mailman. Then, mailman create the right email adresses but in /var/log/mailman/smtp.failure, I always get : May 28 17:30:10 2005 (2104) Low level smtp error: (-2, 'Name or service not known'), msgid: <mailman.0.1117158947.11238.mailman(a)lesagepono.be> May 28 17:30:10 2005 (2104) delivery to laurent(a)lesagepono.be failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') I installed mailman tree times. I first used virtual domains with postfix. I had the same result (the right email adresses are used by mailman but it does not send anything to postfix). After that, I used the other method to integrate postfix/mailman : to let mailman create automatically (?) the aliases. This worked fine (aliases.db OK), but no mail out! I used the gnu install manual, found on the list.org site. I looked in the archive, found nothing. (well, i didn't go back to the 20th century...) The list creation with the web interface works fine, but I do not receive any mail... I used other email of me to put in test lists, but always the same problem : the emails are generated by mailman and it tries to send the messages to the right emails, but the failures are "looping" indefinitely, example (/var/log/mailman/post) : > May 28 17:30:10 2005 (2104) post to test1 from > test1-request(a)lesagepono.be, size=1662, > message-id=<mailman.0.1117238838.3711.test1(a)lesagepono.be>, 1 failures and the pairing log in smtp.failure (same time) : > May 28 17:30:10 2005 (2104) Low level smtp error: (-2, 'Name or > service not known'), msgid: > <mailman.0.1117238838.3711.test1(a)lesagepono.be> > May 28 17:30:10 2005 (2104) delivery to lesage(a)refer.sn failed with > code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') (lesage(a)refer.sn is the only member of the "test1" list, so this part works well). those messages were sent 2 days ago.... they are looping hundred of times (you will excuse, as usually my sometimes strange English) Any help welcome..... Laurent

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Editing the from address on mailman autoresponse
by Gretchen Stanton 29 May '05

29 May '05

Ah. Right. Of course. And given the amount of garbage that comes to this mailing list, what you describe is really what they want even tho they don't know it. Hmm. I will have to reconsider my options. Thanks again. At 01:34 PM 5/29/2005, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Gretchen Stanton wrote: > > > >It is quite possible that I am misunderstanding the intended > functionality of > >this feature. I just need a reply sent to everyone who send to the list > that > >says we'll get back to them. Currently when I send a message to the > list, I > >get the auto-response back from jobs2-bounces(a)aurora.qrc.com with the > >appropriate response text I entered and the message is delivered to the > list > >subscribers. Doesn't seem like anything bounced to me which is why I > did not > >think that the 'bounces' tag made sense. > >I think your understanding of the autoresponse feature is OK. The >sending of the autoresponse from the -bounces address is not because >any bounce has been involved yet. It is to handle the case where the >autoresponse itself might bounce. You don't want this bounce to go to >the list posting address, you want it to go to the -bounces address so >it can be properly handled as a bounce. > >Consider what might happen if I have set the typical "out of office" >responder on my address, I post to your list, your autoresponse comes >back to me and my autoresponse goes back to you. Do you want that to >go to your list? Suppose further your autoresponder has no grace >period. You send me a second autoresponse in response to my >autoresponse and I autorespond to that ... > >-- >Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >Unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/gstanton%40qrc.com > >Security Policy: >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp

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Problem setting up Mailman on Gentoo
by Jan Kohnert 28 May '05

28 May '05

Hello, I'm new on this list, so let me all greet you. I have a wierd problem, which was described before [1] on this list (but unfortunatly got no response). I followed the Gentoo Docs as well as the installation manual on your website, but I just can't get Mailman working with postfix. Alias is set like this in postfix's main.cf: alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases I looked at both files and they seem to be correct (at least to me): server /usr/local/mailman/logs # cat ../data/aliases # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the # binary hash file aliases.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE # unless you know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly # in sync. If you screw it up, you're on your own. # The ultimate loop stopper address mailman-loop: /usr/local/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Sat May 28 23:25:05 2005 mailman: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" # STANZA END: mailman If I add above lines to /etc/mail/aliases and run newaliases, I get: May 28 23:51:16 server mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nobody". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nobody'. May 28 23:51:17 server postfix/local[10690]: BDC4846AA9: to=<mailman-owner(a)the-pojs.dyndns.org>, relay=local, delay=1, status=bounced (Command died with status2: "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nobody". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nobody'. ) May 28 23:51:17 server postfix/cleanup[10687]: 0B2B646AAA: message-id=<20050528215117.0B2B646AAA(a)jankoh.dyndns.org> If I not add it, I get: May 28 23:51:59 server postfix/smtpd[10699]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from localhost[127.0.0.1]: 550 <mailman-owner(a)XXX.tld>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table; from=<mailman-bounces(a)XXX.tld> to=<mailman-owner(a)XXX.tld> proto=ESMTP helo=<XXX.tld> May 28 23:51:59 server postfix/smtpd[10699]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] I'm sure I just overlooked something obvious, but the only thing I found was (as said) [1]. Hoping for an answer. Best regards Jan [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-July/038094.html -- OpenPGP Public-Key Fingerprint: 0E9B 4052 C661 5018 93C3 4E46 651A 7A28 4028 FF7A

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Resetting digest option for all subscribers
by Joshua Beall 28 May '05

28 May '05

Hi All, Is there a way to globally reset the digest option to "on" or "off" for all subscribers? I have an announce-style list that gets at most 1 message per month, and we've had a few people that for some reason set themselves to digest. Now those people are complaining that they're getting a digest but it only has one message in it. It's a 5000+ member list, and 68 people have set themselves to digest mode. So, if I was smart I would have just disabled digest from the beginning, but I didn't. Now if I disable it, the digest members will not receive mail. I can't really just count on them to turn it off themselves - I'm sure *then* I'd eventually get complaints that they weren't getting the monthly newsletter anymore. I'd rather not manually go through all 68 of the digest members and reset them. Is there a way I can simple reset the digest option for all current subscribers? I couldn't seem to find this option anywhere. Thanks for any help! Sincerely, -Josh

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automatic results message
by Achim Hermes 28 May '05

28 May '05

I like to repeat the following question > using Mailman 2.1.5, how can i disable the automatic > command results messages? no setting i can find (i *have* looked in > auto-reponder) seems to effect this. I know the answer from Helmut Merz (Thu, 12 Sep 2002 01:06:55 -0700) http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg12054.html but I´m still looking for an "easy" solution. Thanks.

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lost and confused
by KENNEY, William P. (Info. Tech. Services) 28 May '05

28 May '05

Hello all, I need some help getting Mailman up and running. I have read the install docs and have some partial success with a Sendmail configuration last year (I finally gave up and stayed with MD & Sendmail on an Alpha), but no joy with postfix currently. I want to use postfix as the MTA and Mailman as the list server as it ships with the OS, as does Apache 2.0. My system configuration is as follows: Intel-based server running RHEL 4.0 kernel-2.6.9-5.0.5.EL mailman-2.1.5-33.rhel4 postfix-2.1.5-4.2.RHEL4 sendmail-8.13.1-2 httpd-2.0.52-9.ent python-2.3.4-14.1 So far, Apache works but will need to point to the Mailman pages. This I have no problem with. I can send mail from the command line but can't receive mail. I have read the docs for postfix's main.cf but it doesn't make much sense, so I need to be pointed in the right direction here. Any help greatly appreciated, Bill

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Simple Unsubscribe Link
by David Wills 28 May '05

28 May '05

I'm getting quite a few 'angry' requests as to unsubscribe requires the user password and visitation to the site. Any way to create a simple UNSUBSCRIBE HERE url link which will automate the process? (or) A header / footer with a mailto: link containing all the required data? Disclaimer of Content and Validity Mr David T Wills Managing Director & Co-Founder Naughty Vend (UK) Ltd. Office Suite 610 456-458 The Strand London, WC2R 0DZ This email is intended solely for the addressee, is strictly confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead, please email it back to the sender and then immediately and permanently delete it. Naughty Vend (UK) Ltd., Company Number SC270576 This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses but does not guarantee that it will be virus free.

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Fwd: Upgrade Apache, break web access?
by JB Segal 27 May '05

27 May '05

Oops. Failed to copy the list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: JB Segal <jailbait(a)gmail.com> Date: May 28, 2005 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade Apache, break web access? To: Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> On 5/27/05, Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> wrote: > > See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.045.htp > > It may help. > Thank you. That did it. I always love the challange of figuring out what people think things should be filed/titled as. Usually my guess doesn't match everyone else's choice. JB

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Upgrade Apache, break web access?
by JB Segal 27 May '05

27 May '05

I feel like a total idiot for having to ask this, but there's nothing presenting itself, either in increased logging levels, the archives, the docs or my instinct. I'll also note that this MIGHT be an apache problem. FreeBSD 4.9 Mailman both 2.1.3 and 2.1.5 Python 2.3 (#1, Jul 5 2004, 16:23:56) With Apache 2.0.49, Mailman works. With Apache 2.0.54, the web interface fails, but not in an obvious way. When I submit a webform, nothing logs any errors - not apache, not mailman, not syslog (When I tried upgrading to Mailman 2.1.5, I had the syslog errors discussed in the faq and had to go back and set different groups...), but nothing happens, either. If I have a valid session cookie already set, I can navigate to any given form, but I can not get any change to actually occur. If I don't have the cookie set, or hit 'Logout', I can't log back IN. (You know, that's a change.) I've got apache set to Log_level debug. I can't actually find where the mailman logging levels are set, not really even sure if there are any TO be set. Maybe this is just changing the invoked python instance to be more verbose? If so, how? I'm not familiar with debugging (or even using, really) python. The command-line utilites still work just fine. I don't know. Searching the archives for 'fail silently' 'verbose log' and other such things haven't helped. I'll happily accept pointers to more useful searches, or the the right FM section, or whatever. Thank you all, in advance. JB

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Seeing the status of the deliveries?
by Sub Zero 27 May '05

27 May '05

Hello, How do I see the status of the mail deliveries within mailman in a daily announce posted list like "this list post was addressed to 2504 recipients. 108 of them were over the quota and 42 of them were failed" etc? Have a nice day. -- SubZero

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