Mailman 3 June 2005 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] No admin/moderator emails being sent
by Mark Sapiro 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Kris Vassallo wrote: > >On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 18:04, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Since you have verified that the listname-owner address actually works, >> It seems there may be a problem with the way the listname-owner >> address is obtained for the notification. >> Do you have access to bin/withlist? If so, do >> > >I have root access to the box so I can do whatever :) > >> bin/withlist listname >> >> Then at the >>> prompt type >> >> m.GetOwnerEmail() >> >> and see what is returned (enter control-D at the second >>> prompt to >> terminate withlist). > >>>> m.GetOwnerEmail() >'announce-owner(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com' > >Sounds like what you are telling me is that I should be getting the >email according to the output of the above command. Hmph.... Yeah, that's what I say - Hmph.... So admin_immed_notify is yes, and the poster gets the reply that the message is held for moderation, but there is no e-mail to the owner(s), yet mail addressed directly to announce-owner(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com gets delivered to the list owner(s). If it were working, you would see three entries in Mailman's smtp log similar to the following: Jun 14 10:32:59 2005 (13248) <mailman.292.1118770378.13246.announce(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.027 seconds Jun 14 10:32:59 2005 (13248) <mailman.293.1118770378.13246.announce(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.030 seconds Jun 14 10:33:27 2005 (13248) <mailman.293.1118770378.13246.announce(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com> smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.029 seconds The time stamps and (pid) will be different and the digits in the <message-id>s will be different, and the number of recips for the third entry would be the number of owners and moderators which may be more than 1, but here's the crucial thing. The first entry with 292 in the message-id is the notice back to the poster. The second entry with 293 in the message-id is the notice to announce-owner(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com, and the third entry with the same message-id as the second is the re-delivery of the owner notice to the actual owners/moderators. Do you see all 3? If not, what? Also is there anything in the smtp-failure log with the same time/message-id? Finally, does the same MTA handle mail outgoing from mailman and mail incoming to mailman. If not, what happens when the outgoing MTA gets the message for announce-owner(a)xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com? -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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No admin/moderator emails being sent
by Kris Vassallo 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

I am experiencing a problem where the moderators and/or the list admins are not getting notifications regarding things like mail being held and I am wondering what I am doing wrong. If I send mail to the list as a non list member, the mail gets held, I (the non list member) get a response via email saying that my message is being held for moderation. I can login as a list admin or moderator and look at the pending requests and I see all of the messages awaiting approval, but the list admins / moderators never get email about it! I tried setting both the list admin as well as the moderators and setting a moderator password, no one got notified. I removed the moderators, leaving only an admin, still nothing. admin_immed_notify is set to yes and I have also tweaked the file that sends out reminders at 8 am to send out reminders every 5 minutes and then restarted the mailman service. I see nothing that seems to be showing a problem in the mailman logs and in the vette log I can see things such as "Jun 14 15:43:40 2005 (21062) Announce post from xxxxxxxx(a)yahoo.com held, message-id=<20050614224339.72272.qmail@web5 0803.mail.yahoo.com>: Post by non-member to a members-only list" Does anyone know what could be going on here? Thanks much for any help, Kris

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Bug on Version 2.1.5
by "SER.RI-TIC - Jordi Tomàs Boqué" 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hi, today we found this Bug. Version of Mailman is 2.1.5. Maybe new version solve problem ? thanks. ----- Jun 14 11:38:54 2005 admin(1293): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(1293): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -----] admin(1293): [----- Traceback ------] admin(1293): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(1293): File "/opt/URVmailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main admin(1293): main() admin(1293): File "/opt/URVmailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 234, in main admin(1293): num += show_helds_overview(mlist, form) admin(1293): File "/opt/URVmailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 499, in show_helds_overview admin(1293): KKKesender = _(esender) admin(1293): File "/opt/URVmailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 89, in _ admin(1293): return tns % dict admin(1293): TypeError: int argument required admin(1293): [----- Python Information -----] -- -------------------------------------- Jordi Tomàs Boqué Recursos Informàtics i TIC Universitat Rovira i Virgili C/ de l'Escorxador s/n 43003 Tarragona - Catalunya - Spain A/e: jordi.tomas(a)urv.net Telf: +34 (9) 77 55 8652 Fax: +34 (9) 77 55 82 57 --------------------------------------

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not delivered
by Robert Haack 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

I've been doing some testing and here is what I've found in addition to what's below: I sent a message to 6 lists titled test, testtwo, test3, test_4, test_5, and test_6. On a consistent basis it appears that only 4 of these lists get the message. If I look at my postfix log I see that the message was processed successfully yet when I look in the mailman/qfiles/in directory I only see the message come through to 4 of the 6 lists (I know this partly because the message get stuck in the que). It's not the same 4 lists each time that the message comes through to either and there are no messages in any of the other directories under qfiles/. I see nothing in the Mailman log files that indicates any error. It's almost like postfix hands the message off to Mailman and then things go haywire. Any ideas appreciated. Thank You Robert Haack Programmer Analyst North Clackamas School District #12 haack(a)nclack.k12.or.us Robert Haack wrote: >I'm still having issues when people post to multiple lists. The message >will go to some of the lists but not all of the lists. It not the same >list that this happens to all the time so I know it's not a particular >list. For example I could send a message to list1, list2, list3, and >list4. It might go to list1, list2, and list4, but not to list3 or it >might go to list1, list2, list3 but not list 4. When I look in the >mailman post log I see that it sent it to those lists even though the >email lists all of the lists on it. I've looked at the qrunner log and >the only thing in it for the last email that this happened to is the >following: > >May 31 11:52:52 2005 (6715) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit >(pid: 13022, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) >[restarting] >May 31 11:52:53 2005 (19872) IncomingRunner qrunner started. > >The rest of the logs show nothing went wrong. > >At first I thought it was my stopping and restarting Mailman every that >might be causing the problem but that has proved false with the latest >email because I stopped that job. The only other thing I notice is that >the lock files seem to hang around. Here is a current list of my lock >files: > >Mailman Lock Directories >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 64 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_prin.lock >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 64 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_prin.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.4 >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 63 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_sec.lock >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 63 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_sec.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.15122.0 >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 55 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock >-rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 55 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.11183.2 >-rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 55 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.15122.1 >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 55 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.3 >-rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 55 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.5 >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 60 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/sr_high_sec.lock >-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 60 May 31 2005 /var/mailman/locks/sr_high_sec.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.11183.1 > >These are not overly busy lists so I know the server isn't having bottle >neck problems. > >Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > >TIA > > > -- Robert Haack Programmer Analyst North Clackamas School District #12 haack(a)nclack.k12.or.us

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admin links giving localhost.localdomain so links not working
by SAA 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

admin links giving localhost.localdomain so links not working. everything else works except for this. Normal emails to lists and list owners are fine but when it goes to the mailman owner of the whole server it shows this link in the bottom. Here is a example As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: Mailman(a)listserver.mdpls.net From: alvarinos(a)mdpls.org Subject: ff Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list At your convenience, visit: http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/admindb/mailman to approve or deny the request. Thank you please help me :-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005

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External membership sources
by Tracey McCartney 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

The Mailman home page thanks control.com for their sponsorship of, among other things, "external membership sources" in the new version of Mailman. Is this "external membership sources" feature documented somewhere yet, and can it be implemented by list administrators, or is it available only to the folks who have access to the server Mailman's running on? Our Mailman lists run in a shared hosting environment. I'd love to be able to run Mailman from a MySql database so that I don't have to keep up with subscribers in two different places. Thanks, Tracey

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Messages silently dropped after being approved
by Ryan Rempel 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I am having a problem with messages sometimes being silently dropped after being approved. I successfully get the message telling me that there is a message waiting for approval. I then use the web interface to approve it. The approval is noted in the "vette" log. The message is copied to the appropriate archive. However, it does not appear in the "post" log, nor in the "smtp" log (and, of course, the message is not sent -- nothing appears in the log of my mail server). There is nothing in the "error" log. If I restart mailman, and then send a message again, the process works as expected (i.e. I can approve it and it actually goes out). As a workaround, I tried a cron job that would stop and start mailman every hour, but that doesn't appear to help. (I guess it only helps if I restart mailman after the problem has occured). I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 5.4. I am using a modified version of the LDAP member adaptor for the lists in question. For that reason, I am fully prepared to believe that it is something in the LDAP member adaptor (or my modifications) that is causing the problem. But as there is no error message in the log, I'm a little at a loss to figure out what is going on. If anyone has seen something like this and can offer suggestions for tracking it down, I would be most grateful. Perhaps my best bet would be to set up a test list (with just myself as a member, so as not to annoy the list with test messages) and try to reproduce the problem. I could then put some logging statements in the Mailman code to see if I can narrow down where the problem occurs.

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Multiple Virtual domains Postfix+Mailman
by Dave Pisarek 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I built a new list server and will be moving the lists from the old server to the new. My question is - How do I set it so the old lists i.e. listname(a)old.domain.com will also still work with the new server that would have a list address of listname(a)new.domain.com? I hope that makes sense. In other words if you have two different servers running two different virtual domains can they be combined on one server and not effect old customers ability to send to a list using the old virtual domain? Let me know if the above paragraphs make no sense and I will see if I can explain it better. -- -- Dave

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Update qmail-to-mailman.py for virtual domain support?
by Matt England 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

From http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1219686&group_id=1… : I find that if I want to support qmail-to-mailman.py for multiple virtual domains I must add a: local = re.sub("^lists.newdomain.tld-","",local) line for every virtual domain. Could qmail-to-mailman.py be changed to support all virtual domains with the same general code without manual changes? -Matt

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Insert character to footer
by Terry Allen 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

>> I wish to insert an ampersand (&) into the footer, but >>when I >> use plain &, it generates & into the footer. Should I >>enclose it >> in some way? >1. Create a plain text file in /bin named "footer". Make >your footer there >like this: >msg_footer="""______________________________________________________________________ >Insert the text you want here & make it real nice. >%(real_name)s mailing list >%real_name)s@%(host_name)s >%web_page_url)slistinfo%cgiext)s/%_internal_name)s >""" >2. Then run /bin/config_list -i foot listname >That should do it. But if you change the footer via the >web interface, you >will screw it up. Change the /bin/footer file instead. >This technique will allow you to use double quotes and >other problematic >characters. - John Hi again, Thanks for the feedback. I did change the footer using the web interface, but it didn't screw up anything except add the & into the footer. Out of interest, if I use the method you describe above, does it alter any other lists, or only the one you apply to the list you issue the command on? I guess the other minor question I have is - what if I then wish to apply other footers to other lists? Should your command actually read: /bin/config_list -i footer listname instead of : /bin/config_list -i foot listname I'm only guessing that the command needs the name of the file - in which case I'd name the file 'listname_footer' or something similar. Thanks again for your help. -- Bye for now, Terry Allen ___________________________________________________________________ hEARd Postal Address: hEARd, 26B Glenning Rd, Glenning Valley, NSW 2261, Australia Internet - WWW: http://heard.com.au http://itavservices.com EMAIL: hmag(a)ozemail.com.au Phone: Australia - 02 4388 1400 / International - + 61 2 43881400 Mobile: Australia - 04 28881400 / International - 61 4 28881400 ----------------------------------------------- Non profit promotion for new music - since 1994 -----------------------------------------------

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