Mailman 3 June 2005 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Old config data
by Rob Shepherd June 19, 2005

June 19, 2005

Dan Phillips wrote: > Do you mean by this that you don't have the source directory from which > it was built? Cheers, yes source gone, only an old /usr/local/mailman (2.1.5) off tape to compare > As for the error, know that aliases.db does need to be group > writable, which your is not. I guess some bit of my setup is bust as postalias is supposed to make those files, and my old setup which worked looked like drwxrwsr-x 2 9026 2005 439 Apr 13 18:14 . drwxrwsr-x 20 root 2005 853 Apr 13 16:37 .. -rw-r----- 1 9026 2005 41 Apr 12 23:09 adm.pw -rw-rw---- 1 9026 2005 1973 Apr 13 18:14 aliases -rw-r----- 1 9026 2005 24576 Apr 13 18:14 aliases.db -rw-r--r-- 1 9026 2005 10 Apr 12 21:28 last_mailman_version -rw-rw---- 1 9026 2005 6 Apr 12 22:48 master-qrunner.pid -rw-r--r-- 1 9026 2005 14110 Apr 12 21:21 sitelist.cfg -rw-rw---- 1 9026 2005 1209 Apr 13 18:14 virtual-mailman -rw-r--r-- 1 9026 2005 24576 Apr 13 18:14 virtual-mailman.db mailman:mailman BTW I actually found cgi-gid by tracing the build process and then observing the output of `strings create` apache2 shows up in my old version and I also see no trace of postfix, (or in any other bins in bin) so my config process is same as 2.1.5 but something is not quite right still... Cheers Rob -- /** * Rob Shepherd, * University Of Wales, Bangor, * School of Informatics, * Dean Street, * Bangor, * Gwynedd, UK /\ /\ * LL57 1UT / \/ \ /\ * --------------/---/ \--\---- * * robshep(a)informatics.bangor.ac.uk * * +44 (0) 1248 38 27 */

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unofficial patch for pipermail
by Sythos June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Hi all somebody cant ell me if there is (google&sf say not) a patch to let pipermail send (via sendmail or mailx) a reply to a post on a private archive? I'm not a coder so I don't know if it is possible, but the data "user" (comprensive off email) is already present... so I think it isn't too much difficult (for a coder:) ) Regards Sythos -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against html/rtf/vCard in mail /\ - against M$ attachments

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Virtual file confusion
by Johan Fredrik Øhman June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Can somebody explain to me in other words what the problem with: FROM DOCUMENTATION: If in your virtual-dom1 file, you've got the following lines: dom1.ain IGNORE @dom1.ain @mail.dom1.ain this tells Postfix to deliver anything addressed to dom1.ain to the same mailbox at mail.dom1.com, its default destination. In this case you would not include dom1.ain in POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS because otherwise Mailman will write entries for mailing lists in the dom1.ain domain as mylist(a)dom1.ain mylist mylist-request(a)dom1.ain mylist-request # and so on... The more specific entries trump your more general entries, thus breaking the delivery of any dom1.ain mailing list. Because, I don't see the problem. Because in both cases all mail will be delivered locally. Either through @mail.dom1.ain (default) or mylist-* if it "hits" a more specific name in the virtual file. -- JFO

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whitelisting mailman adresses
by Meike Reichle June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Hi all, I have a few problems whitelisting mailman addresses that have to contain wildcards (like -bounces+<something>) in my exim system. This got me wondering, at what point these are adresses actually needed? I always thought they'd be used for confirmation when subscribing but those come from -request and have the confirmation code in the subject. So, in what cases are these kinds of sender addresses used? Regards, Meike -- Meike Reichle - University of Hildesheim mail: mrei0999(a)uni-hildesheim.de www: www.uni-hildesheim.de/~mrei0999

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2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem
by Andy Heath June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Using 2.1.5 on fedora cors 3. Run an old mailman for years but just setting this one up afresh. Two probs - some regexes and preventing spams going to moderators while holding them back: 1. regex matching with some regex'es causes mailman to loop trying to send mail to the list-owner and failing. e.g. this seems ok subject:.*spam but this one causes looping subject:.*[SPAM].* Since I give control of these regex'es to my other admins this is a problem. Sounds like a python problem - is there some way I can fix it, such as using some specific python version and doing so without a complete rebuild (I find fedora hard work building for, its approaches are so different)? 2. Privacy/Spam filters. The snag I have is this ... If I hold spam back the mail that goes to admins/moderators to request their action contains a copy of the spam email. With one address I use for moderation I never see this mail as its filtered out at the gate without my control and at another it naturally gets classified as spam itself and so goes in the spam box (this is a mozilla client - I can mark these as non-spam but doing so is not really desirable because of their content - doing so may encourage missed positives). So there is needed an option to NOT send a copy of the body of the mail, just a call to action instead I think. Of course I could discard spam but this is a new installation and I want to see some reliability in classification first (the other parts are all new too). andy

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Large list problem
by Chance Eppinette June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Hello, I am running Mailman 2.1.5 on a Solaris 2.8 SUN 280R (fully loaded). I have a number of lists but 1 in particular is giving me problems. The list currently has about 14000 members of which about 1100 are disabled due to bounces. The problem seems to arise when a message is sent to the list (around every 2-3 weeks). The CPU time for a python process jumps up to around 50% for an indetermined amount of time (> 24 hours). While the system is "working" on this list message, GUI access to the list is nearly impossible (can't login); while other lists seem to function OK. Up to this point I have had to stop/kill all Mailman processes and then restart Mailman several times to bring things back to normal with the List service. The intended message being sent to the list does arrive in users mailboxes (which are worldwide). I believe the culprit to be a combination of managing the number of bounces due to the size of the list membership. Also, we prefer that once a member has been disabled for 3 bounces, that it also be unsubscribed from the list. This does seem to occur, but it seems to take forever to occur. Like I said there are about 1100 addresses disabled right now. However, they have yet to be removed. It is like the system is waiting on something else to occur, but I don't know what. Are there any recommendations.... Many thanks, Chance Eppinette Technology Support Manager ULM Computing Center eppinette(a)ulm.edut 318-342-5021 (phone) 318-342-5018 (fax)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] aliases assistant
by Diana Huang June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Hi Mark, > > Pretty thanks. I followed your steps to change the perssion. > /usr/local/mailman/bin/newlist works pretty well. After I create a list by > using bin/newlist, /etc/mailman.aliases has aliases for that list. > However, when I create a list in the web > (http://mydomain.com/mailman/create), I got some errors (See the > following). And /etc/mailman.aliases doesn't have aliases for the list I > created, but /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases file does have aliases for > that list > > My web server runs as 'www', so my /etc/sudoers file is like this > > www All= NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases > mailman ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases I fixed it. I checked httpd.conf and found my web server runs 'magicrock'. Doh.. Thanks, Diana

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aliases assistant
by Diana Huang June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Hi All, I am a novince to Mailman. I followed the steps to install Mailman 2.1.5 in RH Linux 9. It works pretty well except I have to add a bunch of aliases for a list to /etc/aliases. I tried David Champion's mm-handler method to save my manual work, but I got unknown user when I try to send a email. I use sendmail. My configuration: 1. copy mm-handler to /etc/mail 2. set $MMWRAPPER=/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman set $MMLISTDIR=/usr/local/mailman/lists 3. make some changes in sendmail.mc a.. change define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases,/etc/lists') to define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases,/etc/lists') b.. add Mmailman, P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailman, S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, A=mm-handler $h $u 4. make some changes in virtusertable @testbed.majitek.com mailman(a)mit.majitek.com mailman(a)testbed.majitek.com mailman-owner(a)mit.majitek.com mailman-owner(a)testbed.majitek.com mailman-owner(a)mit.majitek.com MAILER-DAEMON(a)testbed.majitek.com mailman-owner(a)mit.majitek.com postmaster(a)testbed.majitek.com mailman-owner(a)mit.majitek.com webmaster(a)testbed.majitek.com mailman-owner(a)mit.majitek.com abuse(a)testbed.majitek.com sun-admin(a)mit.majitek.com root(a)testbed.majitek.com sun-admin(a)mit.majitek.com 5. make some changes in mailertable testbed.majitek.com mailman:testbed.majitek.com 6. make all these map by running make then restarting sendmail services 7. modify mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST='mit.majitek.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST,DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) MTA=None Am I in the right track? really need help!! Thanks, Diana

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How do I remove the Sender option?
by Sub Zero June 17, 2005

June 17, 2005

Hello, I have removed the "Sender" header from one of my lists and now I want to remove it from all my other lists too. I don't know how I did that :( but I want to do the same for my other lists. Can anyone point me to a right direction please? Have a nice day. -- SubZero

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Reply-To revisited
by Jost Krieger June 16, 2005

June 16, 2005

No, I don't want to convert you to my opinion of Reply-To handling :-) I think Mailmans attitude is correct, everyone should be able to implement his own idea ... Only I found it not flexible enough. Our Problem: We have an announcement list for campus network admnistrators and an associated discussion list (for *interested* network administrators). Usually, answers are directed to the discussion list and everyone is happy. But sometimes, there are announcements like "We need 20 people who also buy this to get a good price. If you would like to buy, answer me." The answers obviously shouldn't go to the list. Network adminstrators aren't any better at hand editing To: fields than anybody else. If you opt for not stripping the original Reply-To: header, you will get the answers to the sender *and* the list, also not what you want. My idea would be to restructure the options in the following way: DEFAULT_REPLY_GOES_TO_LIST: # 0 - Reply-To: no address # 1 - Reply-To: back to the list # 2 - Reply-To: to an explicit value (reply_to_address) # 3 - Reply-To: to sender of mail DEFAULT_FIRST_STRIP_REPLY_TO # 0 - merge # 1 - override # 2 - respect For our case, I'd use values of "0" and "2". I hope the meaning of "respect", "override" and "merge" is clear ... Any ideas? Jost -- | Jost.Krieger+sig(a)ruhr-uni-bochum.de Please help stamp out spam! | | Postmaster, JAPH, resident answer machine at RUB Comp. Center | | Sincere words are not sweet, sweet words are not sincere. | | Lao Tse, Tao Te King 81 |

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