Mailman 3 October 2006 - Mailman-Users

Personalization Question
by Ashley M. Kirchner Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

I'm helping a customer set up three new lists and am running against a small issue. I have OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION turned on and when we send a message to the list address, the message has: Subject: [whatever subject] From: <whoever posted the message> Sender: <[listname]-bounces@hostname> Reply-To: <the explicit reply-to we set> Date: <posted date> To: <subscriber(a)address.com> CC: <[listname](a)hostname.com> How do I get rid of the Sender and CC lines? I don't notice those lines on other lists (that don't have personalization turned on.)

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Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?
by Thomas Gramstad Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

I have many small lists in Norwegian and they're all being hit by a lot of spam. Yes, the spam filter holds them back -- but then I get a /lot/ of mail about new messages waiting, and it's a big job moderating them. What I really want is the option to set that anything mailed from an address that does not end with .no is automatically deleted and I never see it. Is that possible, per list or even per domain/for all lists? Thomas Gramstad

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can't get mailman and exim4 talking on my debian 3.1
by Dr. Scott S. Jones Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

For some reason, after a recent nightmare with a hosed partition table, my system which had a working Mailman 2.1.5 version on it, now refuses to connect to exim4 and get my mail out to my lists. Here's a snippted from /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure. I have no idea what these things mean but hoping someone here can help: Oct 19 11:36:12 2006 (2493) Low level smtp error: (110, 'Connection timed out'), msgid: <mailman.23.1161064582.2493.sanchiro-patients(a)fyrenice.com> Oct 19 11:36:12 2006 (2493) delivery to scott(a)fyrenice.com failed with code -1: (110, 'Connection timed out') Oct 19 11:39:21 2006 (2493) Low level smtp error: (110, 'Connection timed out'), msgid: <mailman.24.1161064582.2493.sanchiro-patients(a)fyrenice.com> Oct 19 11:39:22 2006 (2493) delivery to sanchiro-patients-owner(a)fyrenice.com failed with code -1: (110, 'Connection timed out') Oct 19 11:40:54 2006 (2493) Low level smtp error: (4, 'Interrupted system call'), msgid: <mailman.0.1161100680.28041.sanchiro-patients(a)fyrenice.com> Oct 19 11:40:55 2006 (2493) delivery to scott(a)fyrenice.com failed with code -1: (4, 'Interrupted system call') Oct 19 11:44:16 2006 (5556) Low level smtp error: (110, 'Connection timed out'), msgid: <mailman.6.1160859275.2493.sanchiro-patients(a)fyrenice.com> Oct 19 11:44:16 2006 (5556) delivery to scott(a)fyrenice.com failed with code -1: (110, 'Connection timed out') Oct 19 11:47:26 2006 (5556) Low level smtp error: (110, 'Connection timed out'), msgid: <mailman.7.1160859276.2493.sanchiro-patients(a)fyrenice.com> Oct 19 11:47:26 2006 (5556) delivery to sanchiro-patients-owner(a)fyrenice.com failed with code -1: (110, 'Connection timed out') When I revived my system, I couldn't get mailman to even respond until I changed my exim4.conf.template file to exim4.conf.template.new, replacing it with my older exim4.conf.template file. The .new file which apparently was created during an apt-get update pass, contained NO INFORMATION ABOUT MAILMAN, while the old exim4.conf.template file had all my Mailman references. I am reading the !@#$#$@%^$%*ing manual, for those who would urge the RTFM invective upon me. As yet, I can find no answers to help resolve this. It would be nice if there were some probe utility that would verify everything that needs to be in place, for mailman to work on a debian system. Thanks for any suggestions with this. btw, if I send to one of my lists, I get no response at any included list recipient addresses though the message shows up in the archives for the list as if it had gone out. Correction, the archives of all my lists work, i.e., thy collect mail sent out to each list, though none of the mail sent reaches any recipient. Scott

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What is them max subject length?
by Nathaniel Nolet Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

Hello Mailman Users, I recently rolled out a new mailserver and decided to use Mailman as the mailing list software. Everything has been going smoothly except for one minor issue: it looks like sometimes a subject is too long and gets turned into "(No Subject)", while the real subject becomes the first line of the email. I'd like to either change this setting or let my end users know how long is too long, but I can't find the max subject length documented anywhere, nor did it jump out at me on the web interface. I'm sure it's documented somewhere, but after checking the FAQ, the Wiki, Google and The Fine Manuals I'm stumped. Could someone point me in the right direction? Or does Mailman not do this at all and I should look into that user's email client? Thanks, Nate Nolet

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Outgoing Lists
by Roman Hultay Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

How would one go about changing the To: field in received mailings? i.e. it currently says 'hockey(a)mydomain.tld' but is it possible for it to say the recipient? This would mean that each message is different for each recipient atleast in the header.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] external web interface
by BRAVAL François Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

Err.. No In fact, it doesn't seem to work. The URL is machine2.domain.com but the title of the page is machine1.domain.com When I create a new list, it uses the machine1.domain.com domain If I remove the VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off and set the DEFAULT_URL_HOST to machine2.domain.com. I get a 'bug' error. See my error log. Oct 19 13:32:48 2006 (10276) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 127, Unknown error 127) Oct 19 13:32:48 2006 admin(10276): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(10276): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] admin(10276): [----- Traceback ------] admin(10276): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10276): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(10276): main() admin(10276): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(10276): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(10276): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 238, in process_request admin(10276): sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) admin(10276): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create admin(10276): _update_maps() admin(10276): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps admin(10276): raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) admin(10276): RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 127, Unknown error 127) admin(10276): [----- Python Information -----] admin(10276): sys.version = 2.4.1 (#1, May 16 2005, 15:19:29) [GCC 4.0.0 20050512 (Red Hat 4.0.0-5)] admin(10276): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(10276): sys.prefix = /usr admin(10276): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(10276): sys.path = /usr admin(10276): sys.platform = linux2 admin(10276): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(10276): HTTP_COOKIE: test3+admin=280200000069d40f3645732800000031373330346536393039363237623233393263616130383239646231353366643932383335656338; test+admin=2802000000695bcb3645732800000066306166346133613861626464656366333133666162353636393864393733383731383335356535 admin(10276): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora) admin(10276): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create admin(10276): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora) Server at machine2.domain.fr Port 80</address> admin(10276): admin(10276): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10276): HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 admin(10276): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(10276): QUERY_STRING: admin(10276): CONTENT_LENGTH: 151 admin(10276): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 admin(10276): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060909 Firefox/1.5.0.7 admin(10276): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(10276): HTTP_REFERER: http://machine2.domain.fr admin(10276): SERVER_NAME: machine2.domain.fr admin(10276): REMOTE_ADDR: 194.xx.xxx.11 admin(10276): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(10276): SERVER_ADDR: 194.xx.xxx.157 admin(10276): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(10276): PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman admin(10276): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create admin(10276): SERVER_ADMIN: root@localhost admin(10276): HTTP_HOST: machine2.domain.fr admin(10276): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create admin(10276): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 admin(10276): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10276): REMOTE_PORT: 1315 admin(10276): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: fr,fr-fr;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3 admin(10276): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10276): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate > -----Message d'origine----- > De : > mailman-users-bounces+francois.braval=dr8.cnrs.fr(a)python.org > [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+francois.braval=dr8.cnrs.fr@pyth on.org] De la part de BRAVAL François > Envoyé : jeudi 19 octobre 2006 10:20 > À : Mark Sapiro; mailman-users(a)python.org > Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] external web interface > > Hi again > > I will use the first solution for the moment as I want 2 web > servers: an internal one and one in our dmz for testing purpose. > The VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off setting works great and I got > no longer a 'bug' error on list creation. > I keep the second way in mind for future usage > Continue testing... > > Thx mark > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] > > Envoyé : mercredi 18 octobre 2006 19:40 > > À : BRAVAL François; mailman-users(a)python.org > > Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] external web interface > > > > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > >BRAVAL François wrote: > > >> > > >>-add to mm_cfg.py : > > >> ='machine2.mydomain.com' > > >> add_virtualhost('machine2.mydomain.com','machine1.mydomain.com') > > > > > > > > >This has to do with the problem - see below. > > > > > <snip> > > > > > >Setting DEFAULT_URL_HOST and add_virtual_host in mm_cfg.py > > won't affect > > >this. What you need in mm_cfg.py is > > > > > >VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off > > > > > >so all lists will appear on all domain's overview pages. > > > > > > Actually, if you want to access the web interface only from > machine2, > > the above DEFAULT_URL_HOST and add_virtual_host settings > are what you > > want, and you don't need VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off, but you also > > need to run fix_url to update the existing lists' web_page_url as > > explained in > > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04. > 069.htp>. > > > > -- > > Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense > - B. Dylan > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/francois. braval%40dr8.cnrs.fr > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq 01.027.htp >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 32, Issue 43
by patrice.rossel＠bluemail.ch Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

Merci pour vos messages! mais je ne comprends pas bien l'anglais. Largement informé de vos activités, je vous suggère de supprimer mon adresse. Tous mes bons voeux, Patrice Rossel ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- Von: mailman-users-request(a)python.org Datum: 19.10.2006 12:00 An: <mailman-users(a)python.org> Betreff: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 32, Issue 43 Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to mailman-users(a)python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mailman-users-request(a)python.org You can reach the person managing the list at mailman-users-owner(a)python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. external web interface (BRAVAL Fran?ois) 2. Mailman 2.1.9_rc1 (Roman Hultay) 3. Re: external web interface (Mark Sapiro) 4. Re: Mailman 2.1.9_rc1 (Mark Sapiro) 5. Re: external web interface (Mark Sapiro) 6. Can't send messages to list (Lukasz Szybalski) 7. Re: Can't send messages to list (Mark Sapiro) 8. Re: external web interface (BRAVAL Fran?ois) ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] external web interface
by BRAVAL François Oct. 19, 2006

Oct. 19, 2006

Hi again I will use the first solution for the moment as I want 2 web servers: an internal one and one in our dmz for testing purpose. The VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off setting works great and I got no longer a 'bug' error on list creation. I keep the second way in mind for future usage Continue testing... Thx mark > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] > Envoyé : mercredi 18 octobre 2006 19:40 > À : BRAVAL François; mailman-users(a)python.org > Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] external web interface > > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > >BRAVAL François wrote: > >> > >>-add to mm_cfg.py : > >> DEFAULT_URL_HOST ='machine2.mydomain.com' > >> add_virtualhost('machine2.mydomain.com','machine1.mydomain.com') > > > > > >This has to do with the problem - see below. > > > <snip> > > > >Setting DEFAULT_URL_HOST and add_virtual_host in mm_cfg.py > won't affect > >this. What you need in mm_cfg.py is > > > >VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off > > > >so all lists will appear on all domain's overview pages. > > > Actually, if you want to access the web interface only from machine2, > the above DEFAULT_URL_HOST and add_virtual_host settings are what you > want, and you don't need VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off, but you also > need to run fix_url to update the existing lists' web_page_url as > explained in > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04. 069.htp>. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > >

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external web interface
by BRAVAL François Oct. 18, 2006

Oct. 18, 2006

hi first, excuse for my poor english i have set up a full mailman config on a server machine1 (postfix+apache+mailman) and all is working well i want now to use the web interface on another server (machine2) and can't set up the things right what i have done: -create an nfs share from machine1:/usr/local/mailman to machine2:/usr/local/domain -create mailman user and group on machine2 with same uid and sid as machine1 -mount nfs share on machine2 -dns entries for machine1 and machine2 are ok -add to mm_cfg.py : DEFAULT_URL_HOST ='machine2.mydomain.com' add_virtualhost('machine2.mydomain.com','machine1.mydomain.com') when launching web interface on machine1, everything seems to work ok when launching on machine2, i got the wen interface but saying no list present, when trying to create one, got a 'sorry we hit a bug' screen, list seems to be created but no mail is sent to adminlist what i've done wrong or incomplete ? françois ====================================== François BRAVAL Service Informatique CNRS-DR08- Centre-Poitou-Charentes 3E Avenue de la Recherche Scientifique 45071 ORLEANS Cedex 2 Tel 02 38 25 79 89 Fax 02 38 69 70 31 www http://www.dr8.cnrs.fr <http://www.dr8.cnrs.fr/> ======================================

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Mailman 2.1.9_rc1
by Roman Hultay Oct. 18, 2006

Oct. 18, 2006

I have just successfully installed mailman on a production box, and it works great. I have several questions which may or may not be newbie-like: 1. I would like to disable the ability for the public to see http://mydomain.tld/mailman/lists 2. I would like to allow a specific user to be capable of adding mailing lists via the web interface 3. I would like to change the From: field on all messages to a definitive e-mail address on each list 4. I would like to remove the attachment / footer containing list information Any and all help will be appreciated.

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