Mailman 3 October 2006 - Mailman-Users

reviving broken mailman ???
by Dr. Scott S. Jones 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

Just for curiosity's sake, what would happen if one were to backup one's list files, purge mailman and then reinstall, and move the list files back? Might this revive a system running on debian, which is currently broken? Scott

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rename mailman hostname
by mardin＠comcast.net 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

Hi, I needed to rename the mailman server (2.1.5) from mailman_server1.admin.net to mailman_server2.admin.net. I followed the FAQ 4.29. (1) I changed the hostname to mailman_server2.admin.net on the system. (2) I modified the mm_cfg.py as follows: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mailman_server2.admin.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman_server2.admin.net' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' I restart mailman and run fix_url: $ ./mailmanctl restart $ ./withlist -l -r fix_url listname (3) I changed httpd.conf and ssl.conf to match new hostname of mailman_server2.admin.net. The new mailman_server2..admin.net server was working (such as posted to mailing lists and run command line). But I found a problem: After I used URL of https://mailman_server2.admin.net/mailman/admin/, I could log in the list successfully. But I could not modify the contents of configurations and do other administration work. When I tried to submit the changes, I got the following message: "Although this page is encrypted, the information you have entered is to be sent over an unencrypted connection and could easily be read by a third party. Are you sure you want to continue sending this information? -> Continue" After I clicked the Continue Botton, nothing changed about the list. I did add the "DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'" to mm_cfg.py and restart mailman. Did I miss some steps for renaming the mailman hostname? Thanks for your help! Mardin

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How to move a list from 2.1.2
by Anders Norrbring 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

I have a bunch of lists that resides on an old 2.1.2 installation.. I want to move these to a newer machine with Mailman v2.1.7. I'd like to move both lists and archives. On the mailman web site, a script called "move_list" is mentioned, but that script doesn't exist on any of my systems... Tips and hints are welcome! -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

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PROBLEM: Cron <mailman@king> /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/senddigests
by Charles Gregory 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

Hello! I've just subscribed to see if anyone here is familiar with the error report I am now getting repeatedly from mailman (see below). Also, I'm not certain yet, but it appears my archiving may have stopped working. When I go to check archives, there are no listings for the current week. If there is a specific set of info I can post (config, etc) let me know. I've made no changes to list settings in the past few days, and my postfix logs seem to show individual e-mails going out from the lists. Incidentally, I'm sorry, but generic fixes like "upgrade mailman" won't help me, because I'm stuck with the Red Hat 9 rpm. (sigh) But if someone can tell me how to 'unstick' the following error, I would appreciate it. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: Cron Daemon <root(a)hwcn.org> To: mailman(a)hwcn.org Subject: [WL] Cron <mailman@king> /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/senddigests Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ? main() File "/var/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main mlist.send_digest_now() File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in send_digest_now ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 123, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 295, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 252, in process payload = part.get_payload(decode=1) File "/var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 189, in get_payload File "/var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py", line 75, in _bdecode File "/usr/lib/python2.2/base64.py", line 44, in decodestring return binascii.a2b_base64(s) binascii.Error: Incorrect padding ----------------------- Thanks, - Charles

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Footer Change
by Xueshan Feng 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

> > Reply-To: Jason [WeatherServer] <Jason(a)Weatherserver.net> > > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mass Footer Change > > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:18:33 -0500 > > > > I am completely Python stupid. How can I do a mass change of all footers on the lists I run without going list to list using the web interface. > > > > Create a script, for example, call it 'newfooter.py' and save it under the same diretory as 'withlist' script (/usr/lib/mailman/bin for my Debian installation). The newfooter.py: def newfooter(mlist, file): fp = open(file) nfooter = fp.read() fp.close() mlist.msg_footer = nfooter mlist.Save() Then you can run (as root or mailman user): withlist -l -r newfooter <list> <file> This will change the footer of <list> with the content in <file>. You wil need a script around it to feed it with multiple lists. This probably doesn't help much if you don't have login access to the mailman server. We developed a remote command line interface so our list owners can manage their lists via command line without having to login to the server. Xueshan ------------------------------ Xueshan Feng (aka. Susan Feng) Shared Services, ITSS Stanford University, CA 94305-3090 255 Panama St. Room 157, Polya Hall Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4136

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Mass Footer Change
by Jason [WeatherServer] 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

I am completely Python stupid. How can I do a mass change of all footers on the lists I run without going list to list using the web interface. -------------------------------------------- http://listserver.weatherserver.net Weather Alerts, Traffic Alerts, Toronto Fire CAD Alerts All to your email, 24/7/365 *****Visit us today*****

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Mailman is awesome but.....
by Capt Fiero 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Ok our one of our resident tech guys that was a Linux guru set up a Linux box with Mailman on it. It was great. He left so I decided to try and set everything up myself. I am not a total newb, as I run a Windows Box with Apache and a few other server aps. Well at least I didnt think I was a newb. I went through about a ½ dozen different Linux distros trying to find one I was comfortable with and after about 40hrs of installing and dumping I have given up trying to do it on Linux. I have read a bunch of FAQs on running Mailman on Windows and unless I am mistaken its a real pain. So what I am looking for is either any easy straight forward way of installing Mailman on an NT box running Apache or a good alternative to the much loved and great Mailman software. I dont even NEED all the functionality of mailman. I need a mailing list server that will handle 100 members. I can sign them up manually. It has to receive mail and forward it back out to the group. Any help in either direction would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. David aka Capt Fiero -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.

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Performance on mailman
by Peter Kofod 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

I am doing something wrong. I am running mailman with about 100 lists (announce only). A couple are pretty big (40K + addresses). They, however, are used infrequently. The big list has one weekly mailing and the others much less often. Currently, there is NO mail queued or being sent (tail -f on maillog is silent), yet doing a top on the mailman process shows mailman consuming 1240M of virtual memory and a task size (RES) of 811M. I am no Linux Performance Tuning expert, but the system seems pretty pokey. This is with no mail going out (and the occasional subscribe / unsubscribe trickling in). When a mailing goes out, the system becomes virtually unresponsive, usually resulting in a http 500 error. If ssh in to the system, I am eventually able to kill mailman, at which time the system perks right up again. System is a P4 with 1 GB of RAM. Mailman 2.19rc1 What am I missing? Thanks, pete

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Fwd: Multiple installations on same server with Exim4and mailman
by Phillip Ryker 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

Mark, That was it! The <; did it. Thank you very much for the support. I am temtped to write up a tutorial on how to do this since I already have everything documented I have gone through. The mailman docs are outdated. Thanks so much!! Phil On 10/28/06, Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> wrote: > Phillip Ryker wrote: > > >I would like to inquire whether or not anyone has successfully setup > >multiple installations of mailman-2.1.9 and exim4 on the same server. > >If you have would it be possible to see a copy of your exim.conf? I > >have tried everything I can think of and believe I have run up against > >some issues I cannot get around. > > > >Anyone have this actually working? > > > Yes, I played with it and I got it working in a limited test > environment. > > Here's the issue. The instruction at > <http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html#virdom> is wrong! The > problem is that some stuff is defined in one or more macros with > doubled colons, but the colons only need to be doubled in one of the > places where the macros are used and not in others. This is because > one of the places where the macros are used is a list, and the default > list delimiter is ':' so other colons have to be doubled in lists only. > > The solution is to define the macros with single colons and to change > the list delimiter in the line that uses a list argument (only > require_files). > > i.e. > > MM_UID=mailman > MM_GID=mailman > MM_HOME=/virtual/${lc:$domain}/mailman > MM_WRAP=MM_HOME/mail/mailman > MM_LISTCHK=MM_HOME/lists/${lc:$local_part}/config.pck > > mailman_router: > driver = accept > domains = +mm_domains > require_files = <; MM_LISTCHK > local_part_suffix_optional > local_part_suffix = -admin : \ > -bounces : -bounces+* : \ > -confirm : -confirm+* : \ > -join : -leave : \ > -owner : -request : \ > -subscribe : -unsubscribe > transport = mailman_transport > > mailman_transport: > driver = pipe > command = MM_WRAP \ > '${if def:local_part_suffix \ > {${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \ > {post}}' \ > $local_part > current_directory = MM_HOME > home_directory = MM_HOME > user = MM_UID > group = MM_GID > > > > Alternatively, instead of > > require_files = <; MM_LISTCHK > > I think you could have > > require_files = MM_LISTCHK > > if you had > > MM_LISTCHK=<; MM_HOME/lists/${lc:$local_part}/config.pck > > where MM_HOME also has a single colon, although I didn't test that. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > >

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Digest Options
by Jon Loose 29 Oct '06

29 Oct '06

I have some users who would like the digest to be provided in a different format, which seems a logical third option over and above Mime/Plain. The ideal would be a single HTML message which combines all of the HTML/plain messages that have been sent to the list, with attachments aggregated and placed at the end of the combined message. This is something quite different than mailman does already - but I felt it was worth raising. An alternative might be a combination of the current Mime/Plain options, with a single text containing all the messages, with Mime attachments at the bottom for any attachments to the original messages. I have probably not described these thngs very well, but any reflections on this would be appreciated. With thanks, Jon ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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