Mailman 3 October 2006 - Mailman-Users

max_message_size
by richard Oct. 23, 2006

Oct. 23, 2006

Can anyone suggest anything? We are running mailman with exim and cygwin on windows sever 2003. Problem: all messages are truncated to about 45 Kb, be it body or attachment. In the administrative interface / general options for the list I have changed the field: Maximum length in kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit. from 0 to 50000. Problem persists. Have triple checked all I can. I cannot see the field max_message_size anywhere in the mm_cfg if that's where it should be.

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Bug in the public HTML pages
by iMug Oct. 23, 2006

Oct. 23, 2006

I have created four Mailman mailing lists associated with my organization's domain name through our web-hosting provider's cPanel (ie I do not have root access to the server to try to fix problems). One of these lists returns a "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9.cp1" error message page anytime a subscriber clicks any of the submit buttons on the General List Information page or the Users Specific Options page. IOW, subscribers cannot alter their settings or email address. As administrator, I get … [View More]

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Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
by Tony Croes Oct. 23, 2006

Oct. 23, 2006

I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron <mailman@server> with the following error: "/bin/sh: mailman: command not found" I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 … [View More]Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [root@server mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [root@server mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [root@server mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman "smrsh" symlink: [root@server mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [root@server mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=<tony.croes@sbcglob al.net>, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200610211727.k9LHRDWj019396@server .ctrcc.com>, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to="| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman", ctladdr=<mailman(a)server.ctrcc.com> (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Thanks for your help. [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] header_filter_rules bug?
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 23, 2006

Oct. 23, 2006

Please copy replies to the list. Bob Tschannen-Moran Wrote: >Well, now that you put it THAT way, I have done more experimenting. When I >put in either of the following two header_filter_rules (from Spammers): > >Received: from [83.93.206.242] >helo=karin > >I do receive the admin notices, as one would expect. It's only when I put in >the following header-filter-rule > >X-EMWD-MailScanner: Not scanned > >That the admin notice fails to be sent. Crazy but true.… [View More]

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broken-black hole
by Kelsey Forsythe Oct. 23, 2006

Oct. 23, 2006

I am running Mailman-2.1.4. I had been running for several years no problem. We recently had a hard disk failure. We had to replace with backup drive. The backup seemed to work fine but now we are receiving complaints from members of our lists that none of the messages are posted. I checked and corrected some permission errors and restarted the qrunner. In the /var/log/mail.log file messages appear as follows: > Oct 21 04:43:30 atom postfix/local[22667]: 807C21246E6FA: > to=<… [View More]

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header_filter_rules bug?
by Bob Tschannen-Moran Oct. 23, 2006

Oct. 23, 2006

I use my list as a distribution-only list, holding all posts from me, the Administrator. My posts are released only after I Accept them, either by "Tending to Pending Moderator Requests" or by returning the coded confirmation email (with "Approved: password" in the first line). I use the latter system to schedule the time when messages will go out (since there is no way to schedule that time from in the "Tending to Pending Moderator Requests" section). I long for the day when that functionality … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't get mailman and exim4 talking on my debian 3.1
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 21, 2006

Oct. 21, 2006

Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: >Here's a couple lines from /var/log/mailman/error: > >Oct 21 12:32:42 2006 (15692) Cannot connect to SMTP server localhost on port >smtp >Oct 21 12:37:23 2006 (17533) Cannot connect to SMTP server 166.70.243.110 on >port smtp So presumably you changed SMTPHOST in mm_cfg.py to produce the second entry? >I am reading the faq entry at this link: >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp > >9) SMTPHOST &… [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] can't get mailman and exim4 talking on my debian 3.1
by Mark Sapiro Oct. 21, 2006

Oct. 21, 2006

Please include the mailman-user's list in replies. No individual on the list knows everything. Individuals make mistakes. Individuals have other lives that take them away from mailman and/or email for days or weeks at a time. The list is a community which can often offer better and/or more timely response than an individual. At worst, the individual will see your list post and reply to it anyway. If nothing else, a coherent thread in the archive can help others long after the fact. Dr. … [View More]Scott S. Jones wrote: > >> >> Did you add the line >> >> >> >> self.__conn.set_debuglevel(1) >> >> >> >> to Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py and restart Mailman and then look in >> >> Mailman's 'error' log? > >I did add that line, but I will check again to make sure it is there >correctly. > >> That's why you see the "No such list" errors. Someone has tried to >> access those lists - in the case of 'test75' via the admin interface, >> in the case of the others, via perhaps listinfo, private or some other >> script that doesn't log it's name. >> >> Anyway, the only messages relevant to your issue are "Cannot connect to >> SMTP server localhost on port smtp". I don't know why there aren't >> also debug prints from the Python smtplib if the >> >> self.__conn.set_debuglevel(1) >> >> line was added to SMTPDirect.py per the FAQ. Basically however, this >> says that in these instances at least, SMTPDirect was unable to >> connect at all to 'localhost' port 25. > >I can only assume that the 'someone' to whom you refer, must be an outside >entity attempting to email to those lists which are now gone. Emailing a non-existent list can produse the error log entry 'post script, list not found: %(listname)s' But only if there are aliases or something left in the MTA that still delivers to the list. In your case, Exim won't attempt to deliver to a non-existent list, and in any case, your error log entries don't look like the above. The entries in your log are caused by someone or something (anyone, anything, including a web crawler) accessing a URL like http://example.com/mailman/<script>/<list> where <list> doesn't exist. In one of the three cases, the script was 'admin', because 'admin' identifies itself in that message. In the other two cases, the message was the generic "No such list <list>: message which is issued py the scripts admindb, confirm, edithtml, listinfo, options, private, rmlist and subscribe. If you want to know more about what script was invoked and from what IP, consult your web server log for the times in question. >If I knew the >domain of your server, where your lists are hosted, and I attempted to mail >to "nonexistant_list(a)mark_sapiro.org" ... is it safe also to assume that >such email to that nonexistant list would generate a similar type error >message in your log file? No, it would be rejected as undeliverable by the incoming MTA (or perhaps just discarded depending on how my incoming mail is delivered to Mailman). >If so, then I understand what you are saying about >my lists which I removed. > >Now that I know that SMTPDirect won't connect to 'localhost' port 25, how do >I proceed? I guess I am having difficulty understanding how simply upgrading >mailman or exim4....when I opted to keep my existing configuration files, >would so badly hose my Mailman installation as to make it unworkable. That does seem unusual, but that's what we're trying to figure out. >Is it safe to cut back on one's log files, for example with >/var/log/mailman/error, keeping only the past two weeks of entries? I use logrotate to rotate the logs weekly and keep for prior generations in addition to the current. If you do this, don't forget to tell logrotate to do 'bin/mailmanctl reopen' after rotating. >I am including a few other files to help you help me figure this out. I have snipped this in case there is anything in it that you don't want to go to the list. I think you said that you can successfully 'telnet localhost 25' and get an appropriate '220' from Exim, and that you successfully ran the various tests in FAQ 6.14, but that message was off list so I'm not sure exactly what you said. Did you see the paragraph <quote> If the various diagnostic snippets above don't fail, first make sure you are running them as the 'mailman' user and not as root as this can make a difference. Also see <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044972.html> and <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044742.html> for more complete tests, and if these work, make sure you don't have different (wrong) settings for SMTPHOST and/or SMTPPORT in mm_cfg.py. </qoute> in the FAQ and do the tests in the referenced posts as the mailman user? In any case, your problem doesn't seem to be the one in FAQ 6.14 as that is a hard failure, and your's seems more intermittent, particularly considering your "slow processing" thread, however the tests in the referenced posts may still be useful. >Scott > >p.s. I am very grateful for your help here. I am sorry I am at times brain >dead about how to proceed. It's OK - we all have blind spots from time to time. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan [View Less]

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Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
by Tony Croes Oct. 21, 2006

Oct. 21, 2006

I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron <mailman@server> with the following error: "/bin/sh: mailman: command not found" I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 … [View More]Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [root@server mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [root@server mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [root@server mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman "smrsh" symlink: [root@server mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [root@server mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "| /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=<tony.croes@sbcglob al.net>, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200610211727.k9LHRDWj019396@server .ctrcc.com>, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to="| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman", ctladdr=<mailman(a)server.ctrcc.com> (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Thanks for your help. [View Less]

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where to customize other MM pages?
by Zbigniew Szalbot Oct. 21, 2006

Oct. 21, 2006

Hello, Can anyone help me find pages which I need to cusomize, in particular I want to customize the page on which when you have given your email address you can: unsubscribe have your password sent to you change subscription options (you need to specify a pass to be able to do that) This page is usually under domain.tld/mailman/options/LIST_NAME Many thanks in advance for pointing me in the right direction. -- Zbigniew Szalbot

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