Mailman 3 February 2006 - Mailman-Users

Integrating htdig
by Dragon 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

I've spent a lot of time over the last few days trying to make htdig work with my installation of mailman 2.1.5. I installed the patches and rebuilt everything, set up the configuration, rebuilt my archives using arch and everything seemed (mostly) fine until I tried to index the archive and do a search. The indexing problem I have is an htdig issue (segmentation fault while running htfuzzy) so I won't go into that. Even with that problem during the index process, I can use htsearch from the command line and it gives me a valid search response. When I try to do a search from the form on the archive index page, it bombs badly and just gives me a useless error message (something like Search failed 12). I noticed in the documentation that the 3.2 version of htdig is not supported by the patches for using htdig with mailman. I've tried rolling it back to version 3.1.6 but am having difficulty getting it to install so it looks like for the moment I am stuck with 3.2 Is there any way to get this patch to work with the 3.2 version of htdig? Is there any plan to support this in the future? Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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KNOWN_USERS + SpamAssassin discarding lots of mail
by Joel Heenan 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

I have in my mm_cfg.py : KNOWN_SPAMMERS = [('X-Spam-Status', 'Yes')] But for some reason this is discarding lots of mail. Is there some way I can turn up the debugging so I can see why these messages are being discarded? Where do these discarded messages go? Thanks -- Joel Heenan

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MGCP + Reg CallId in CRCX
by geetha 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hi all, Can any of you tell me how to validate the below scenario? "Ensure that the IUT sends CRCX including Callid which is unique within the list of call agents that control the same gateway." IUT in the above scenario is Call Agent(MGC). Kindly tell me the test procedure for the above scenario? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Geetha. -- geetha geethkrish_t(a)fastmail.net -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service

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Web interface to Mailman list (read, reply, post...)
by Tom Jennings 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Hello MR/MRS/MS. ALL , I'm converting an old, crufty, proprietary, long-lived mailinglist to Mailman. Mailman doesn't provide one nifty feature this old (practically security-free) package does: a web interface to list contents (reply and post, as well as read). (Many users do not have computers capable of, or are uncomfortable with, substantial email handling. They're smart and techie, just not in computing/networking. You can skip the obvious 'upgrade!' remarks, I've heard 'em all already.) Generic "webmail" bolted to a single Mailman list, on the host machine, authenticating from MM's cleartext password, would be perfect. Only read, reply, post, search are needed; delete, save, other mailbox-management tools are not needed. Such a thing seems "obvious" but I can't find it, I could simply be using the wrong search terms (or paradigm). Before I go hack an existing webmail package, does such a thing already exist? I've cobbled up a post module, authing from the MM file, but I'm terribly lazy. signed tomj

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Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?
by Jonathan Dill 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Has anyone talked about the changes planned by AOL, Yahoo! etc. to require "certification" via Goodmail or just be blocked? http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3581301 http://www.goodmailsystems.com/ What will happen to a mailing list such as this one? Will AOL and Yahoo! users just be out of luck or have to get an e-mail account with another provider in order to receive mailing lists? Jonathan

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admin email interface
by Tony Bibbs 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

I see docs for the email interface for members of a list (subscribe, unscubscribe, etc). Are there equivalents for the administration functions (add list, remove list, list admins, list lists, etc)? The goal is to integrate a 3rd party application to use Mailman without having to have a person physically create and administer the list through the web interface. --Tony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members
by Dragon 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Bryan Carbonnell sent the message below at 11:29 2/28/2006: >On 2/28/06, Dragon <dragon(a)crimson-dragon.com> wrote: > > Allan Hansen wrote: > > >Thank you for clarifying, Mark. > > > > > >I do not yet have the knowledge to fix it, thus my comment. I do > > >appreciate the fix, though, because a number of my subscribers do > > >want to be subscribed inactive from a second address that they use > > >for posts (and they don't want duplicates). So I'll use your version. > > ---------------- End original message. --------------------- > > > > So why not add them to the list of approved posters? > > > > It's under accept_these_nonmembers on the Privacy options, Send filters > page. > > > > That's what I do when somebody wants to be able to post from a > > non-subscribed address. It's clean and easy. > >By doing it that way, it's extra work for the list admin. > >When folks on my lists want to post for different accounts I give them >instructions on how to sub that address and then postpone that >subscription. it puts the onus on the onus on the user to make sure >they post from "legitimate" accounts. ---------------- End original message. --------------------- OK, I still don't understand the real issue here nor exactly how this would be setup. It sounds like more time will be expended setting this up than it would take to actually add a bunch of people to the non-member accept list. It takes me all of a minute to add somebody to that list and it is rare that I even get a request to do it. I can only see that becoming a real time issue on huge lists with lots of people who want to post from an alternate address. In my case, this is extremely unlikely to happen so I go with the simpler approach. Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members
by Allan Hansen 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Thank you for clarifying, Mark. I do not yet have the knowledge to fix it, thus my comment. I do appreciate the fix, though, because a number of my subscribers do want to be subscribed inactive from a second address that they use for posts (and they don't want duplicates). So I'll use your version. Allan At 9:18 -0800 2/28/06, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>Allan Hansen wrote: >>> >>>So Apple's version does, indeed, appear to be an Apple hack gone awry. >>>I suppose it could be fixed by extracting the address before sending >>>the member to setDeliveryStatus, but I'll refrain from that. >> >> >>Yes, but why? > >Upon rereading my post, I see the above "but why" doesn't say what I >meant. It appears that I'm saying "but why refrain from fixing the >hack?" This is definitely not what I meant to say. > >I meant to say "but why fix it?", just the opposite of how it comes >out. I did indicate how you could fix it, but I also tried to say that >I didn't see a real need for the botched option in the first place. > >-- >Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- _________________________________________________________________ | Allan Hansen, Ph.D. | | P.O. Box 2423, Cypress, CA 90630, U.S.A. | | | | Work: Home: | | Phone: +1-714/952-6015 +1-714/875-8870 | | Fax: +1-714/952-6746 | | Email: allan.hansen(a)ugs.com hansen(a)rc.org | | WWW: http://www.ugs.com http://www.rc.org/ | | | |_Anything is possible with the right tools and right information_|

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List
by Mark Sapiro 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Sesiri Pathirane wrote: > >Thanks for the Reply on the list. I had selected first_reply_to = no and >reply_goes_to_list = poster. But when people reply to the list, it went to >everybody on the list. I need to set it up where, if anyone replies to the >list, it goes to the list admin. How do I do that? If you want all replies to go to the list owner and not to the original poster, set first_strip_reply_to = Yes reply_goes_to_list = Explicit address reply_to_address = list-owner(a)example.com It seems like you may be trying to set up an announcement type list, in which case, you also probably want to moderate the members so they can't post to the list. See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp> for detailed information on setting up this kind of list. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Set-up Instructions
by Sesiri Pathirane 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Hi: Im using mailman for one of our mailing lists, but I have a hard time configuring it. If someone replies to the a mail that’s sent to the mailing list, it goes to everybody on the list, as if I sent a mail to the list. How can I stop that? I tried everything, but no luck! Thanks in Advance Sesiri -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006

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