Mailman-Users April 2006

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176 discussions

by Robert Haack

We've just recently noticed that on messages that come through the mailing list that the message footer is appended to the end of the message and also as an attachment in the message. I want the footer to appear at the bottom of the message but not as an attachment. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening? Thanks -- Robert Haack Programmer Analyst North Clackamas School District haack(a)nclack.k12.or.us 503-353-6100

14 years, 11 months

Can mm_cfg.py use includes?

by simba＠vmailtest.ao.net

Greetings... I'm installing a new virtual mail server using Debian Sarge, PostgreSQL, Postfix, Dovecot, Mailman, and PostfixAdmin. I'm trying to automate/tie as much of the administrative configuration into the PostfixAdmin web interface & PostgreSQL database as possible. The only thing in the entire setup that doesn't have direct query access to the SQL database is Mailman. What I want to do is create an hourly cron job to run a script which pulls the names of the virtual domains from the database and creates the necessary addvirtualhost('lists.%s', 'lists.%s') configuration items in mm_cfg.py. If I end up needing to use a new domain for mailing lists more quickly than an hour, I can just run the script manually. I figure that the easiest way to do that would be to have the script put those configuration items in a separate file and just use something like Apache's "Include" directive to read it into the configuration. I'm not terribly familiar with Python programming, and the only thing I can find that's similar to what I want to do is the "import" command. It's not working like I'd hoped because when I add a "from vhosts_cfg import *" to mm_cfg.py, the Mailman web scripts just come back with "We've found a bug!" errors and nothing shows up in /var/log/mailman/error. I did remember to create an /etc/mailman/vhosts_cfg.py test file with correct addvirtualhost() usage syntax and made a symlink to it in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman, so it shouldn't be a matter of a missing file. I'm not sure what I'm missing or even if this is the best way to accomplish the task, and rather than go through the time-consuming task of learning the semantics of another programming languate, I figured I'd ask the experts. :) If anyone knows of a good way to do this, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. If this ends up being some sort of informal feature request to be included in the next latest and greatest version, that'd be cool too. Thanks in advance for any help offered! -- Scott 'Simba' Garron

14 years, 11 months

upgrading from 2.1.5 -> 2.1.8

by kristina clair

Hi - just a quick question: In the UPGRADING file in the tarball for mailman 2.1.8, there are no notes for upgrading to 2.1.8. Is that because there is nothing to look out for? I'm upgrading from 2.1.5. Thanks! Kristina

14 years, 11 months

Permission problem updating Mailman FAQ

by Mark Sapiro

To: webmaster(a)python.org During the past month or so, there have been at least two periods of a few days or more each during which any attempts to commit changes to the Mailman FAQ <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py> have produced errors like the following: Sorry, an error occurred Can't write file faq01.011.htp ([Errno 13] Permission denied: 'faq01.011.htp'). During the periods that this has been occurring the same error (except for file name) occurs on any commit of changes to an existing entry or addition of a new entry. It appears to be working OK now, but at least once before, it started working again and then the problem reappeared for a few days. Can you shed any light on what was happening? Can you suggest a procedure to follow if this occurs again. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

14 years, 11 months

Any easy way to remove one email address from a queued message?

by Sam Cannell

Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been delivered to some of the recipients, but Mailman keeps retrying this one address and not continuing with the rest: 2006-04-27 09:10:18 SMTP call from localhost (hostname.removed) [127.0.0.1] U=list dropped: too many syntax or protocol errors (last command was "rcpt TO:<'username@domain'>") 2006-04-27 09:25:19 SMTP call from localhost (hostname.removed) [127.0.0.1] U=list dropped: too many syntax or protocol errors (last command was "rcpt TO:<'username@domain'>") I've replaced the email address in those logs, but the invalid part is the ''s around it. Is there any way I can remove the invalid address from the message to allow it to deliver to the rest of the recipients? Thanks, Sam

14 years, 11 months

question about web archives for a very large number of lists.

by Matt Doughty

I am currently maintaining a mailman install that has 5000+ lists, many high volume. The archive volume is nearly 80GB in size between the archives and mboxes for the various lists. Even after doing acrobatics to only archive the lists that have changed within the last 24hours it is extremely time consuming to rebuild the archives from the cumulative mbox files. I am considering rotating the mbox daily, and only processing the the mbox for that day. This would mean using the arch without --wipe. My question is, what pitfalls do I need to lookout for with this approach? thanks, -- --Matt

14 years, 11 months

Can someone refresh my memory?

by Tom Ray

Our mail server crashed and we didn't have a back up of the Exim configuration file. We had some mailman lists running and I remember there was a command I put up at the top on the configuration file but I can't remember what is was. Can someone refresh my memory? I believe it was something along the lines of MM_LISTS=lists.list1.tld:lists.list2.tld Am I right? I already have the MAILMAN_HOME and MAILMAN_WRAP already set. Thanks!

14 years, 11 months

announce list creation script

by Matthew Clarkson

I have just completed a new announcement list script. I find that this is more complete and flexible than the current ones which I could find on the net. Also, unlike all the other scripts, this doesn't require bash (only sh), so it should be more cross platform, and save people from having to install bash on systems which don't have it on a default install. Thanks Patrick for steering me on the right path earlier for setting the moderation bit for a user. Feel free to use it for whatever purpose if you wish to do so, also, you can link to it at http://www.netera.ca/mailinglists/MakeAnnounce.sh http://www.netera.ca/mailinglists/changemod.py -- Matthew Clarkson from Mailman import mm_cfg from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError def setMemberModeratedFlag (mlist, addr, mod): mlist.setMemberOption (addr, mm_cfg.Moderate, mod) mlist.Save() #!/bin/sh #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # Mailman Announce Script # Apr 26 2006 - Matthew Clarkson (matt _at_ netera (dot) ca) # # This script will create an announce list out of specified mailing lists # I have used two other scripts as a basis for this one, however, I find # that this is much more flexible, and easier to use after set up. # This script also uses sh, so you don't have to rely on a computer # to have bash, unlike the other scripts, which makes it a bit friendlier # to cross platform setups # # The reference scripts that I used are found at # http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html # http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html # # This script requires one other file to operate # changemod.py, place this file in ~mailman/bin # # In order to operate, the list must be created first, with appropriate # settings, I would recommend the following be selected # # /admin/netera-announce-l/general # send_reminders -> No # send_welcome_msg -> No # send_goodbye_msg -> No # /admin/<listname>/privacy/sender # default_member_moderation -> Yes # member_moderation_action -> ( Reject | Discard ) # generic_nonmember_action -> Discard # # This script uses the following files (I will use announce-l as my list) # # announce-l - list of mailing lists in mailman # announce-l.extra - list of additional email address' # announce-l.allow - list of email address' of people who can post # the list # # The files must have the same name as the list itself, all files must # be plaintext # #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # General Usage message, it exits right after this is called usage() { echo 1>&2 "usage: ./MakeAnnounce <filename>" exit 127 } # We must have one, and only 1 argument for this script, other wise print # the usage mssage to the user, and exit if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then usage fi # We must get the filename directly, since we want the list name, and not # a name like /path/to/announce-l filename=`basename $1` # Make sure that there is a corresponding list for the filename, if not, print # usage message and exit EXISTS="`~mailman/bin/list_lists | grep -i $filename`" if [ -z "$EXISTS" ]; then usage fi # Loop through the main file, collecting all address' from all the lists in # the main file, and then adding them to /tmp/<listname>.tmp while read -r current_line do # to verify that the list exists (using bin/list_lists) EXISTS="`~mailman/bin/list_lists | grep -i $current_line | \ awk '{print $1 }'`" # if the list does not exist, print an error and continue on with the # next line if [ -z "$EXISTS" ]; then printf "ERROR: %s does not exist\n" "$current_line" else # add every address in the current list to the announce file printf "Adding %s to list\n" "$current_line" `~mailman/bin/list_members $current_line >> \ /tmp/$filename.tmp` fi done < $1 # if the .extra file exists, then add every address in this file to the # announce file if [ -f "$1.extra" ]; then while read -r current_line do `echo $current_line >> /tmp/$filename.tmp` done < $1.extra fi # sort the list alphabetically and remove duplicates. sync_members will remove # all duplicates, so the '-u' can be removed, although, it's easier to go # through the text file when there are no dupes, if you ever want to do that. cat /tmp/$filename.tmp | sort -u > /tmp/$filename.tmp.final # add all address' in the .tmp.final file. This also removes all address' from # the list which are not in the .tmp.final file, output goes to /dev/null ~mailman/bin/sync_members -f /tmp/$filename.tmp.final $filename > /dev/null # now we set the moderation bit to every user that is in the .allow file if [ -f "$1.allow" ]; then while read -r current_line do # see if user exists in the announce .tmp.final file EXISTS="`~mailman/bin/list_members $filename | \ grep -i $current_line`" # if the user is not in this file, then display an error message if [ -z "$EXISTS" ]; then printf "ERROR: %s is not a member\n" "$current_line" # if the user is in the file, then unset their moderator bit else `~mailman/bin/withlist -q -l -r \ changemod.setMemberModeratedFlag \ $filename $current_line ''` fi done < $1.allow fi # remove our working files rm /tmp/$filename.tmp rm /tmp/$filename.tmp.final

14 years, 11 months

Re: [Mailman-Users] No Mailman web pages appear.

by Andy

> Andy wrote: > > > >After installing and running Mailman no Mailman web page is visible (no list > >has been created yet, though). > >What can be wrong? > > You can't run Mailman without at least the site list (mailman). > mailmanctl won't start. > > However, this is not your problem as the web interface doesn't require > mailmanctl and the qrunners to be running. > > See <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html>. Thanks for your reply. The admin tried everything he could and it still does not work. He has virtual hosts, and he suspects that perhaps Mailman cannot work with virtual hosts, only with proper WWW servers. Can you please confirm? Andy

14 years, 11 months

moderation bit via command line

by Matthew Clarkson

Is there a way to set the moderation bit (on/off) for a user on a specific list by the command line? The closest thing I have found is on http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html but I would like to stay away from using a python script like this if possible. -- Matthew Clarkson

14 years, 11 months

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