Mailman 3 April 2006 - Mailman-Users

moderation bit via command line
by Matthew Clarkson 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

Is there a way to set the moderation bit (on/off) for a user on a specific list by the command line? The closest thing I have found is on http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html but I would like to stay away from using a python script like this if possible. -- Matthew Clarkson

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Archive search?
by Rosenbaum, Larry M. 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives (pipermail)? Larry

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Newbie question(s).
by William D. Tallman 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

I'm subscribed here to get some answers about email list software in general, and hopefully some continuing questions about Mailman in particular. So I may be gone shortly, depending on what I discover here. I am considering setting up an email list server for possibly more than one local email discussion list. But I'm not clear on how that can be done, or whether or not it is indeed possible. Hence this post. I'm (yet another) private computer user with a home LAN and an aDSL gateway to an ISP. I'm running Fetchmail/Sendmail/Procmail on my own machine, which primarily means I can use any MUA at whim. It also means I've the potential to serve the LAN as well, though presently don't (wife likes her own setup...) And it also means I could cobble up a simple email mirror to do the job, but it would be a limited hack. What I want to do is run a real list server instead. Thought of majordomo but was set straight on the currently much better regarded Mailman, which is why I'm asking here. So, the question: Is it possible to run a server behind a gateway and through an ISP? Fetchmail can service list mailboxes easily enough, and Sendmail can do transport duty both ways. But in order that my machine's hostname is not carried beyond the gateway, I have to use the Sendmail '-f' switch. Simple enough. Don't know whether or not Mailman can be configured to accept messages from Fetchmail, and/or to pass outgoing to Sendmail, however. If I set up Mailman on my machine, it will (I presume) regard it's own address as that of the machine, an address only valid on my LAN. I suppose the question is whether or not I can set up reliable address translation for the outgoing smtp stuff, but I'm a relative newbie at all this and would sure like to know what is or is not feasible/possible before I get all bogged down and over my head. Is this post clear enough for a substantive response, or do I need to clarify anything? Thanks for reading, Bill Tallman

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error install MM on MAC OS x
by Celes Victoria 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

helo there... (^_^) i want to install Mailman on MAC OS x following from http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg33402.html on step 3 e & f ..i got some errors micom:/Applications/mailman/mailman-2.1.8 root# sudo ./configure --prefix=/Applications/mailman --with-cgi-gid=www --with-mail-gid=mailman loading cache ./config.cache checking for --with-python... no checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking Python interpreter... /usr/bin/python checking Python version... 2.3 checking that Python has a working distutils... yes checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no checking for true... /usr/bin/true checking for --without-gcc... no checking for gcc... no checking for cc... no configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH bemicom:/Applications/mailman/mailman-2.1.8 root# sudo make installsudo: make: command not found should i install the Developer's Tools to fi my problems?,..cos i read it on http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg14100.html is that OK on line configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH thank you... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Search movie info and celeb profiles and photos. http://sg.movies.yahoo.com/

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Restoring Mailman
by Brian Fahrlander 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

Mailman is a well-made product; it's slick, simple, reliable, everything you'd want from a mailing list but one: a clearness of documentation. I've installed it three times, and I swear I don't know how I did it. Sendmail, on the other hand, when you've installed it, you *know* how you did it, ya know? That's what's making things hard for us, over here. The OS is Fedora Core 4 (Ubuntu's RAID-setup isn't easy, yet) and we're running the most recent RPM available, mailman-2.1.5-35.fc4. A server was running this for several years- long enough to start to worry about the reliability of the disk drives, and long enough for subsequent admins to make some mistakes that turned a bit messy. So we take the old drive, set it for IDE secondary-master, put in a new drive, and mounted the old drive, Read-only, as /archive until we're completely transitioned. And ya know- I coulda *sworn* the actual list of subscribers was in a text file, but it isn't. Key questions: 1. What, explicitly, do I copy from the archive to get the lists back, and what steps do I take to make them work? Simply copying the files that seem right, don't work at all. I suspect the binary to check the configuration will be involved, but the docs are driving me up a tree. 2. Am I doing this right? Usually when I spend a couple of days Googling and turn up nothing, it means I'm doing something wrong... -- Don't be fooled by lovesongs and lonely hearts...you're living in a Twilight World. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://Fahrlander.net/brian ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Serious problem
by Yves Bajard 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

I hav a serious problem. For one of the 11 mailing lists I host and manage as list owner, when clicking on URL of the admin page, I get directly into it without having to go through the password filter. I noticed that people who look for that list on Google can also access directly the admin page of that list without being blocked by the password filter. Anybody could tell me how to correct that flaw? I am not the webmaster of my websites, but have contracted it to a local server in my city. Thanks in advance Yves Bajard

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list admin/moderator as list
by Brian Krusic 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

Hi, Is it possible to have the list admin/moderator as a list as well? I'm used to sendmail aliases but when I assign the list admin and/or moderator as another list I get implicit destination approval requests before the message even gets to the approval phase for itself. My goal is to have a static list admin/moderator as an alias and the alias members them selves be dynamic. Thanks in advance, Bri-

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Problems Installing from SVN
by James Davis 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

I'm looking to tweak the source of my mailman installation a little so decided to install from source onto my Debian system using the subversion repository. This is the first time I've installed mailman from source, usually I just rely upon the Debian packages. Everything installed without a problem, so good so far. But when I go to view the webpages I get the following error in my browser. ** Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0a0 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. ** If I try and start mailman's qrunner I get the following errors. ** cressida:/usr/local/mailman# ./scripts/mailman start Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 126, in ? loginit.initialize() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/loginit.py", line 94, in initialize handler = ReopenableFileHandler(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LOG_DIR, logger)) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/loginit.py", line 43, in __init__ logging.FileHandler.__init__(self, filename, mode, encoding) TypeError: __init__() takes at most 3 arguments (4 given) ** Any ideas? I'm using Python 2.3.5. Thanks, James

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Fwd: Using gmail SMTP and mailman together
by Patrick Bogen 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

I think you should be able to do something with BCCs, but I'm not sure. So, forwarded to list... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew Price <mandtprice(a)gmail.com> Date: Apr 24, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Using gmail SMTP and mailman together To: Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> The one mailing list feature that I absolutely need is the ability to make each message appear to be individually sent; I don't want every subscriber to see the addresses of every other subscriber. I already checked that functionality in gmail and its group feature just pastes the associated addresses into the recipients' list. Matthew On 4/24/06, Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/24/06, Matthew Price <mandtprice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > list of addresses? I know that sounds like a spam engine, but the > > specific functionality I need is the ability to make a TLS connection > > to the gmail smtp server and not fire them off myself without any smtp > > server. > Mailman is probably overkill for what you need, since its main purpose > is managing list memberships and (I guess) maintaining archives. But > if the engine is running off your laptop, the latter doesn't do you > any good, and not much good for the former- users won't receive timely > feedback to emailed requests, and the web interface won't be > available. > > So, a small script will probably do what you want. > Or, keep the list of addresses in a text file, and paste them into the > 'To:' field each time. > > That said, gmail itself supports 'groups' (refer to the 'Contacts' > link in the web interface), and any e-mail client worh its salt ought > to have some sort of rudimentary group functionality. > > - Patrick Bogen > -- Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! -- - Patrick Bogen

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix Virtual Mailbox Domains
by Adam Mattina 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

Duncan, I'm not sure if I understand what the difference is between "virtual email domains" and "virtual alias domains" but I have setup; and am running the following: Linux 2.6/Apache2/Postfix/mySQL/vmailAdmin/mailman using maildrop to deliver mail. mySQL handles the domains on the box and individual user account information. This is managed by vmailAdmin. Mailman is setup to run on any of the domains I setup on the box and can be accessed via: mailman.domain1.com, mailman.domain2.com, etc. The biggest PIA was to get the Postfix config file correct. I had to tell postfix where everything was and since half of my mail system is in a DB (individual users and their info) and the other half in mailman's files(mailing list information)...it was tricky. Post your questions to the list and I'll do my best to advise if you need it. I'm sure others can help as well and it took me a while to get working properly. It's a non-trivial setup and could be a rocky ride if it's your first time. -Adam "You never forget your first time." -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+amattina=layer8group.com(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+amattina=layer8group.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Drury Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:38 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Postfix Virtual Mailbox Domains I have postfix set up on FreeBSD with virtual mailbox domains (i.e. mailboxes don't map to freeBSD accounts). All the documentation I have found about Mailman talks about virtual alias domains. I haven't been able to find any detailed information on how mailman should be set up in such circumstances despite much googling. So I am trying to set up virtual alias domains for mailman to handle alongside the existing virtual mailbox domains. I'm asking on the Postfix mailing list if this is wise (so far not sure if it will work at all!). I was wondering if anyone here had any experience getting mailman working with virtual mailbox domains and would be able to pass on any wisdom. Cheers, Duncan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/amattina%40layer8gr oup.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp

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