Mailman 3 May 2006 - Mailman-Users

migrating mailman to a new box
by Jana Nguyen 31 May '06

31 May '06

I'm moving our current mailman to a new box. We want to migrate all the data (lists, archives, and configuration files), except for the hostname and web_url will be change on the new box. Below are the steps, not sure if this is a good way of migrating mailman from current to new box? 1) Move the entire contents of the archives/ lists/ and directories 2) fix the host_name and web_page_url attributes of the list with "withlist", "fix_url", and rebuild the archives with 'bin/arch --wipe' Not sure if we have to rebuild the archives if I'm already running fix_url with withlist? Thanks!

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Postfix/Cyrus/Mailman-2.1.8: data format error..: Mailbox does not exist
by Peo Nathan 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi, I have installed Mailman 2.1.8 on a box running postfix and cyrus email working. But, emails to mailman aliases are all bouncing back with data format error..: Mailbox does not exist. For example, even the subscription request bounces back a follows. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. -------- Reporting-MTA: dns; nextgenfoundation.org Arrival-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 10:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; us-volunteers-request(a)nextgenfoundation.org Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command output: us-volunteers-request: Mailbox does not exist -------- -- Thanks, Peo

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filtering members for sending
by Serbulent UNSAL 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi, I a newbie on mailman. I would like to know can i make a filter for members to send messages. For example i have members named as A B C D E F then i would like that only member A and C can post messages directly to other members messages fromB D E F is moderated by me. How can i do this. Tahnks for all answers Serbulent

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welcome messsage and help message formatting
by Paul Navarre 31 May '06

31 May '06

I am running 2.1.8. I have a client with Outlook 2002. They do not receive the welcome message and help message in plain text, and this makes the messages look funny. Can anybody help me understand why these messages are not in plain text for them? I assume it is something to do with their version of Outlook doing something strange. If there is anyway around this problem I would really like to hear about it. It would seem a small issue to me but they are really getting irritated about it. Also, can someone explain the funny logic behind how hard returns work? Apparently you need a space before before a hard return for it to be recognized. Why? Why doesn't it just work like any plain text renderer? Thanks, Paul Navarre

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strange warning on mm2.1.5
by Sythos 31 May '06

31 May '06

/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py:175: DeprecationWarning: get_type() deprecated; use get_content_type() ctype = part.get_type (part.get_default_type()) Uhm... it is only a warning... all work, anyone else have this message from list cron? mailman2.1.5 python2.4 -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against html/rtf/vCard in mail /\ - against M$ attachments

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how to run mailman scripts beside being root?
by Jana Nguyen 30 May '06

30 May '06

I am running other applications that needs to invoke mailman to create a new list and add a member to the list by calling "newlist" and "add_memebers" as user "tomcat". I have mailman setup with ownership "root" and group "mailman". So how do I make mailman scripts "newlist" and "add_members" so it can be run as user tomcat? Although the permissions on these scripts are 755 it doesn't allow other user beside root to create a new list or add a member to the list. So, when I run my application as user tomcat calling these scripts, I get error: Enter the email of the person running the list: jnguyen(a)test.edu Initial jtest11 password: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./newlist_new", line 254, in ? main() File "./newlist_new", line 196, in main mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 488, in Create self._full_path = Site.get_listpath(name, create=1) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Site.py", line 65, in get_listpath _makedir(path) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Site.py", line 40, in _makedir os.makedirs(path, 02775) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/os.py", line 154, in makedirs mkdir(name, mode) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/jtest11'

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[ANN] Job Posting in Boston MA - Web Application Engineer (Python)
by Stylus Studio 30 May '06

30 May '06

Dear Python Users - We're looking to hire a Sr. Web Application Engineer with Python experience. A detailed Job Description follows. To apply, send an email with resume and cover letter to stylusstudio(a)stylusstudio.com Thank you! Job Description ---------------------- Sr. Web Developer / Application Engineer Responsibilities: The Sr. Web developer / Application Engineer will be responsible for developing advanced sales and marketing infrastructure and applications for the Stylus Studio Web site, http://www.stylusstudio.com. Responsibilities include developing and maintaining various mission-critical back-end server infrastructure to increase sales and visitor traffic to the site, for example: * Converting older web applications which were developed using various scripting languages into Python applications * Development of custom middleware and back-end applications * Advanced logging and personalization engines * Custom Sales tools * An online shop * Creating new websites * Creation of content authoring tools Qualifications: Ideally, the candidate will have had previously played a leading role in launching a high-traffic, e-commerce site. Candidate must have top-notch Web application development skills in addition to robust C# programming skills in order. Please note, only candidates with a bachelor's degree in computer science or engineering, or, a very substantial amount of related technical coursework and Work experience in a related field will be considered. Required Skills: Python, Windows Server 2003, SQL Server, IIS, C#, ASP.NET, HTML, CSS, XSLT, JavaScript, T-SQL/Stored Procedures. Required Experience: +5 Years, Bachelors Degree For more information about Stylus Studio you can visit the Stylus Studio website at: http://www.stylusstudio.com or download the product at: http://www.stylusstudio.com/xml_download.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list stop sending - no changes to server or mailman in months
by John Adamski 30 May '06

30 May '06

I believe I found the cause of the problem; SMTPHOST = 'localhost' in mm_cfg.py was commented out and a line with the fully qualified server name as added. Switching which was commented out fix the problem. I must have done that when trying to resolve the Exchange sending issue. Or one of my co-workers was trying to help me out. Either way I am now getting the correct number of recips in the smtp log file. I got 50 recips on a test email to a list that has 50 members, before the switch would only get 1 recips. Now I get to go have fun getting umbrella list working here. Woohoo. Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions. John -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:34 PM To: John Adamski; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] list stop sending - no changes to server ormailman in months John Adamski wrote: > >The post & SMTP logs seem to indicate it got the email and sent it ok, >but its not getting there. Exchange logs seem to indicate it got the >email from mailman and is sending it. > > >Where can I go to verify who,what,when mailman sent a email. I don't >know mailman's internals so not sure if it generates a email per >memeber on a list or sends a email with all member on one email. So >not sure what I should be looking for to resolve this issue. Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs will tell you about delivery to the outgoing smtp server. If there is an entry in the 'smtp' log of the form '%(msg_message-id)s smtp to %(listname)s for %(#recips)d recips, completed in %(time).3f seconds' and no entry in the 'smtp-failure' log, Mailman has successfully transferred the message to the outgoing MTA. If bounces are subsequently returned, they will be noted in the 'bounce' log if bounce processing is enabled. As far as how Mailman delivers, this depends on a number of things. The basic controls are Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py options SMTP_MAX_RCPTS (default 500) and SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION (default 0). These defaults say messages should be delivered to the MTA in chunks with a maximum of 500 recipients per chunk and as many chunks as necessary with one connect to the server. SMTP_MAX_RCPTS adjusts the chunk size, and if SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION is > 0, after that many chunks are sent, Mailman will close the SMTP connection and re-open it for the next chunk. VERP and personalization will reduce the chunk size to 1 - i.e., each recipient will be sent to individually. In any case, there will be only one 'smtp' log entry for a successful message send indicating the total #recips and time, regardless of how many chunks are sent. See the Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py settings for VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL and OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION and the list's personalize setting if OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes. As far as resolving the issue, the problem seems to be out of Mailman's hands based on what you say about the post and smtp logs. You may be able to work around the issue by mm_cfg.py settings like for example SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 5 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 1 but this may not help depending on what the actual problem is. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Permissions on public archives (apache 403)
by Michael Berkowski 29 May '06

29 May '06

Hi All, I have seen many questions related to this in the archives, and from what I can tell, my configuration is complete and correct. But I cannot seem to get my public archives to be viewable. I wonder if someone knowledgeable could look over the following configs and point me in the right direction. We recently upgraded to RHEL, Apache 2.0.52, Mailman 2.1.5. We have around 80 lists, but only a handful require public archives. check_perms returns no errors. We do have a few virtual hosts in apache with IP access restrictions, but mailman has no such restrictions. (Allow from all) All access attempts return: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pipermail/xxxxx on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Port 80 Apache reads mailman.conf on startup. Would it make a difference if I put this information into httpd.conf instead? # mailman.conf ####################### ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ <Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public> Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks # Options FollowSymlinks ExecCGI -Indexes -Includes AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> [root@othello mailman]# ls -l /var/lib/mailman total 68 drwxrwsr-x 5 mailman mailman 4096 May 19 11:43 archives drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 16384 May 26 09:45 data drwxrwsr-x 72 mailman mailman 4096 May 22 16:03 lists drwxrwsr-x 3 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 17 11:35 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 17 11:15 logs drwxrwsr-x 11 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 17 11:16 qfiles drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 17 11:14 spam [root@othello archives]# ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/ total 32 drwxrws--x 198 mailman mailman 12288 May 22 16:03 private drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 May 22 16:03 public I really appreciate anyone taking the time to look these over. Please let me know if I forgot to include something. Thanks much, Michael --- MINITEX Library Information Network / MnLINK University of Minnesota

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Archive search
by Jim Popovitch 28 May '06

28 May '06

I keep revisiting this issue. ;-) What works great these days wrt archive searching and Mailman 2.1.x? Is there anything as simple as a tested patch? What about private archives, and can the search interface be integrated into Mailman's pages? Tia, -Jim P.

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