Mailman 3 May 2006 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch member attributes
by Benjamin Roger 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hello again, Thanks for the support :-) I finally have put together a set of commands which do a great job for me: --- from Mailman import mm_cfg from Mailman.UserDesc import UserDesc from Mailman import MemberAdaptor userdesc = UserDesc() userdesc.address = "<e-mail address>" m.ApprovedAddMember(userdesc, ack=False, admin_notif=False) m.setMemberOption("<e-mail address>", mm_cfg.Moderate, False) m.setMemberOption("<e-mail address>", mm_cfg.AcknowledgePosts, False) m.setDeliveryStatus("<e-mail address>", MemberAdaptor.BYADMIN) --- (note that I had to replace "mlist" by "m", which is the default variable in my version, and "UserDesc" needs a capital D) But...that still isn't a batch script. I have to enter (/paste) this list of commands into the withlist console. Isn't there something like a shell script for the withlist console? It would really be cool to be able to apply those commands to all lists at once, or, at least, to a particular list using a single command. Best regards, -br > > > However, a much simpler approach for all but disabling delivery would > be with a shell script, for each list run 'bin/config_list' to set > new_member_options and default_member_moderation as desired, then > 'bin/add_members' to add the members and finally bin/config_list to > set the list back. > > Next time ... :-) > >

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error when upgrading versions
by Jeff DeReus 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hello again, currently running mailman 2.1.5 on FC3 with sendmail and apache. doing a test configure and install on a copy of my current mailing list configuration. I am getting the error Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 50, in ? from Mailman import Utils File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 344, in ? def MakeRandomPassword(length=mm_cfg.MEMBER_PASSWORD_LENGTH): AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'MEMBER_PASSWORD_LENGTH' make: *** [update] Error 1 I had configured with ./configure --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman /tmp/usr/local/mailman If anyone would have any idea as to the source of this problem, any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jeff D

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need help for all list members to show in To header
by stephen jackson 25 May '06

25 May '06

Is there a way to have all list members show up in the same To field in an email sent to a list, instead of just a single individual? One of our customers is wanting to see all the users that receive a particular message. Thanks. Stephen

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Install issues
by Defryn, Guy 25 May '06

25 May '06

Doh! After rebooting I did not start the processes again Seems to work now -----Original Message----- From: Defryn, Guy Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:24 PM To: 'Mailman-users(a)python.org' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] FW: Install issues Hi guys, I found an older message in the archive that was similar to my issue and all the errors where caused by selinux. Now the aliases get nicely created. I have submitted some messages to the list and I do not get any errors in my mail log. However the emails don't seem to be delivered to list members? What other logs could provide me with any indication of what is wrong? I am sure I made progress :-) Cheers -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+g.p.defryn=massey.ac.nz(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+g.p.defryn=massey.ac.nz@python.org] On Behalf Of Todd Zullinger Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:15 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Install issues -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Defryn, Guy wrote: > I did run genaliases and that generated the following error > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./genaliases", line 116, in ? > main() > File "./genaliases", line 106, in main > MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create > _update_maps() > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in > _update_maps > raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) > RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases > (status: > 1, Operation not permitted) This is most likely FAQ 6.9: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp I get a "RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias" when creating lists and Postfix is my MTA Check that and adjust the paths as appropriate for FC5. > I also have the mailman list. Setup and subscription worked fine > but when I post to list I get error that says: > > < it022607.mydomain.com #5.0.0 X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: > "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"> > > I assume that this is a permission issue? It appears to be. It may be caused by SELinux instead of just normal file system permissions. Do you have SELinux running in enforcing mode? Run the getenforce command as root to find out if you're unsure. If it's in enforcing mode, you're going to want to set it to permissive or disable it for now as there are problems making mailman and postfix work. I've posted about this to the fedora-selinux-list and not gotten any real solution yet. I'll hopefully get a chance to submit a bug to Fedora on this so it can get fixed, but for now, it's a no go unless you are real adept at managing SELinux (which I think only a very small handful of folks are). - -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ====================================================================== I like this 'God'; he's so deliciously evil. -- Stewie Griffin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkR2VosmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1rkkwCffjt38ObXaKkEFbzhWx7j7xRM62QAoIqk5fIp Tw+fM4Zd93mEEtODbj3c =175E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/g.p.defryn%40massey .ac.nz Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp

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auto-approve patch
by Jim Popovitch 25 May '06

25 May '06

At one time (2.1.7?) there was an auto-approve patch that allowed for subscriptions to be automatically approved for certain domains. Is there an update for 2.1.8? I searched high and low for references to it but could not locate anything. Thanks, -Jim P.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Install issues
by Defryn, Guy 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hi guys, I found an older message in the archive that was similar to my issue and all the errors where caused by selinux. Now the aliases get nicely created. I have submitted some messages to the list and I do not get any errors in my mail log. However the emails don't seem to be delivered to list members? What other logs could provide me with any indication of what is wrong? I am sure I made progress :-) Cheers -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+g.p.defryn=massey.ac.nz(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+g.p.defryn=massey.ac.nz@python.org] On Behalf Of Todd Zullinger Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:15 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Install issues -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Defryn, Guy wrote: > I did run genaliases and that generated the following error > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./genaliases", line 116, in ? > main() > File "./genaliases", line 106, in main > MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create > _update_maps() > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in > _update_maps > raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) > RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases > (status: > 1, Operation not permitted) This is most likely FAQ 6.9: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.009.htp I get a "RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias" when creating lists and Postfix is my MTA Check that and adjust the paths as appropriate for FC5. > I also have the mailman list. Setup and subscription worked fine > but when I post to list I get error that says: > > < it022607.mydomain.com #5.0.0 X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: > "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"> > > I assume that this is a permission issue? It appears to be. It may be caused by SELinux instead of just normal file system permissions. Do you have SELinux running in enforcing mode? Run the getenforce command as root to find out if you're unsure. If it's in enforcing mode, you're going to want to set it to permissive or disable it for now as there are problems making mailman and postfix work. I've posted about this to the fedora-selinux-list and not gotten any real solution yet. I'll hopefully get a chance to submit a bug to Fedora on this so it can get fixed, but for now, it's a no go unless you are real adept at managing SELinux (which I think only a very small handful of folks are). - -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ====================================================================== I like this 'God'; he's so deliciously evil. -- Stewie Griffin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkR2VosmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1rkkwCffjt38ObXaKkEFbzhWx7j7xRM62QAoIqk5fIp Tw+fM4Zd93mEEtODbj3c =175E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/g.p.defryn%40massey .ac.nz Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp

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FW: Install issues
by Defryn, Guy 25 May '06

25 May '06

Thanks Patrick, I have reinstalled on FC5 but still having issues. Postfix itself appears to be working. It sends and delivers email correctly. I have installed mailman. The web interface is up and running. I have added the URL and email host to mm_cfg.py and set MTA to Postfix. I also set up the cronjob for mailman. I created a list called rugby through interface and subscribed myself. The message to confirm subscription arrives just fine. I confirmed but when posting I get an error in mail log that says I don't exist locally. Now this is most likely because it can't find the mailman aliases file. This will sound stupid but I cannot find it either!! I assume that when you create a list through interface that it adds it to the alias file? I did run genaliases and that generated the following error Traceback (most recent call last): File "./genaliases", line 116, in ? main() File "./genaliases", line 106, in main MTA.create(mlist, nolock=True, quiet=quiet) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create _update_maps() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /etc/mailman/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) I also have the mailman list. Setup and subscription worked fine but when I post to list I get error that says: < it022607.mydomain.com #5.0.0 X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"> I assume that this is a permission issue? Hope someone can give me some pointers. Being completely new to mail sure is a steep learning curve! Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Bogen [mailto:pdbogen@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:14 PM To: Defryn, Guy Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Install issues On 5/24/06, Defryn, Guy <G.P.Defryn(a)massey.ac.nz> wrote: > If someone can tell me what could possibly have caused the issues above that would be great. > Did you go through FAQ 1.7? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.007.htp -- - Patrick Bogen

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Feature Req: Re-confirm subscription
by Daevid Vincent 25 May '06

25 May '06

If there is a way to do this, please let me know, I didn't see anything in the FAQ. I also didn't see a 'bug/feature' tracking system link anywhere? Is there a bugzilla or anything for mailman? --- Anyways, I have a suspicion that some of my lists' mails are not getting to their destinations. This could be that some people used their job email and no longer work there, could be that they are on AOL or hotmail (which seem to just silently discard), or could be just people that joined up and now 'junk mail or filter' the list because they're either to stupid or lazy to properly unsubscribe. Bottom line is that I'm paying per emails sent (via my quota on DynDNS) and I want to unsubscribe these dead members. It would be great if I could push a button in the web GUI (or run some command on the CLI) and mailman would reset every members status to 'unconfirmed' (or whatever it is), mail them a link to click (with some crazy code in it like when you join a list), and then mark the responders as 'confirmed'. Then after some period of time, say a week or so, I could then go into the GUI, click some link and see a list of all 'unconfirmed' people with the option to unsubscribe them all (without sending an email obviously, since the address is bogus). Extra points if I can schedule this task to occur every month, every six months, once a year, etc... (probably some 'day' interval would be sufficient here). ÐÆ5ÏÐ

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Site list is missing: mailman. List exists
by Zietlow, Rob 25 May '06

25 May '06

This was it, for one reason or another the correct line was commented out and another in it's place, it is working correctly now. Thank you Rob -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Bogen [mailto:pdbogen@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:31 AM To: Zietlow, Rob Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org. Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Site list is missing: mailman. List exists On 5/25/06, Zietlow, Rob <rob.zietlow(a)tdstelecom.com> wrote: > [root@maillist2 mailman]# /etc/init.d/mailman start > Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman > [FAILED] > Can you check to see that your /etc/init.d/mailman script is referencing the "right" mailman wrappers? -- - Patrick Bogen

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Site list is missing: mailman. List exists
by Zietlow, Rob 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hello List, I'm running into some issues with running mailman on my system. I repeatedly get the error message "Starting mailman: Site List is missing: mailman" I have verified this exists, I have removed the list and added the list via command line & web interface but still get this error message. I have followed the FAQ steps listed for this particular message but I haven't gotten mailman to start up. Any insights into this would be appreciated. Below are the steps I have taken. Thank you Rob [root@maillist2 mailman]# ./bin/rmlist mailman Not removing archives. Reinvoke with -a to remove them. To finish removing your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or equivalent) file by removing the following lines, and possibly running the `newaliases' program: ## mailman mailing list mailman: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" Removing list info [root@maillist2 mailman]# ps auxww | grep qrunner root 31662 0.0 0.0 1880 480 pts/2 S+ 09:48 0:00 grep qrunner [root@maillist2 mailman]# bin/newlist mailman Enter the email of the person running the list: rob.zietlow(a)tdstelecom.com Initial mailman password: To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the `newaliases' program: ## mailman mailing list mailman: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/u01/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" Hit enter to notify mailman owner... [root@maillist2 mailman]# /etc/init.d/mailman start Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman [FAILED]

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Mailman-Users May 2006