Mailman 3 May 2006 - Mailman-Users

PGP keys causing problems
by Jeff DeReus 21 May '06

21 May '06

Hello, I am running mailman 2.1.5 with sendmail. One of my users sent in an attachment with a message to the list. When he signs with his PGP key, only the PGP signature remains in the message. I have yet to locate the rest of the message. It is necessary to disable the signature to allow his posts to go through properly. Is there a method to allow for secure signatures on messages? I have searched quite a bit and have yet to find relevant information. Any information/assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jeff D

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Delevery disabled box checked
by Gary Hall 21 May '06

21 May '06

Hi Gang, I never "disabled" any of the members of this "closed" list. You can sub and unsub, but that is all. There isn't a digest either. This is strictly a one-way mailing, from me to them. I know that some are disabled because I have seen the boxes checked, but I didn't do it. I checked with FAQ 2.1 and it said in part, "You can disable delivery to an address by going to the personal options page for that address and setting "Mail delivery" to "disabled". Should I be so bold and delete these? On my last mailing emails were sent to 599 people - which indicates that I have 31 that are "disabled". (I haven't taken the time to take an accurate count. Thanks. Warm regards, Gary Mark Sapiro wrote: >>The admin page shows 630 listed >>members, but I believe that some of them are "marked" and are not sent >>out anyway. >> >> > > >Any with delivery disabled for any reason, plus any digest members will >not get the message. >

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Problem with config.pck
by Markus Schanovsky 21 May '06

21 May '06

Hello! I am very sorry to ask for help, but I run into a big problem with mailman 2.18. Everytime I try to call an admin-pages of mailman or a user calls his personal admittance to his mailman-subscription I get the following error-message: ============== Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 47, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 629, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 595, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/dialog/config.pck' ====================================================== The rights for the files are: -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1867148 May 19 22:08 config.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1867148 May 19 22:08 config.pck.last -rwxrwxrwx 1 www mailman 823 May 19 16:52 pending.pck -rwxrwxrwx 1 www mailman 665 May 19 11:57 request.pck Every time I change the permission to 777 I can reach the admin-pages, but if mailman is running (mailman.sh start) the permissions are quickly set back to the version You see above. Regardles who I set as owner:group - everytime the same effect. Now my question: Who is setting the file-permissions back? Who shall be the correct owner? What can I do? With best regards fram Vienna Mark ======================================================== Markus Schanovsky, Dipl. Ped. Pedagogical Institut of the council of Vienna IT-Administrator Burggasse 14-16/214 Tel: +43-1/523 62 22/93 222 A-1070 Vienna Fax: +43-1/523 62 22/99 93 200 Austria email: m.schanovsky(a)m56ssr.wien.at priv: mschano(a)aon.at Website: http://www.pi-wien.at ========================================================

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help request: new 1300 member list results in mostly bounces
by Nathan 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hello. I'm new to mailman. I've used it to setup an announce-only list for a friend who has over 1300 addresses. Up to this point, she's been simply sending to her entire AOL address book (as this user/account is setup specifically for people who want to receive announcements about her studio). You can imagine the headaches she has sending that way. So I setup a mailman list. Her webhost has mailman included with her account, so I didn't have to install. I sent a few test messages to just her and a couple of my accounts to make sure they were being moderated, and that they went out properly once approved before mass subscribing the other addresses. These messages went out without issue. So, I mass subscribed the other 1300+, and she sent out the first email today. If mailman has a way for the administrator to investigate bounces, I don't know about it, but some time after she'd sent the message out, she and I still had not received it, so I tried to investigate. I logged in and looked up our user info and found that each of us had a "bounce score of 1". From my reading and simple math, this means that the 1 message sent out resulted in a hard bounce. To get a sampling of other users, I clicked on "G" for all emails beginning with g. Of those 30 subscribers, 29 had bounced. Only one subscriber at the domain nyce.net had a bounce score of 0. The other domains: email.com @hotmail.com @hotmail.com @hotmail.com @comcast.net @hotmail.com @eclipse.net @verizon.net @comcast.net @optonline.com @hotmail.com @nc.rr.com @pershing.com @msn.com @ureach.com @yahoo.com @lycos.com @gmail.com @yahoo.com @comcast.net @pabla.net @hotmail.com @usinter.net @pcisvision.com @earthlink.net @gmail.com @msn.com @yahoo.com @aol.com Any advice as to why this is happening? I'm assuming the problem is NOT with mailman itself, but possibly with her webhost (maybe flagged as a spammer by other hosts?). For what it's worth, one other address to which the email did get through was my mac.com address. I noticed in my mac.com web interface that the message showed that it had an attachment, but there was no evidence of that attachment once I clicked through to read the mail. She's sending from AOL, and it does appear that html was included, so maybe the attached file is the html document? I am not her usual web person, so don't have a lot of other info, or a way to take it up directly with the host, however I'm sure I could speak with him and get whatever info is necessary, but at the moment, I don't even know what to ask. Since mailman handles the bounces automatically, I don't even know how to go about figuring out what caused them. Also, is there a way to send out a test message to only a few members of the group? If this were the case, I could try to troubleshoot by sending a message from my account rather than hers, using plain text, etc. Thanks in advance for any help. Nathan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella lists
by Mark Sapiro 19 May '06

19 May '06

Lori Christensen wrote: >None of the sub-lists that are members receive their email from umbrella >list. > >Example: umbrella list name- campusfac-l > >Membership for this list is >Hum-l >Soc-l >Sci-l > >(these all have campusfac-l under recipient filter- Alias names >(regexps) which qualify as explicit to or cc destination names for this >list. Does the umbrella list receive the message? (subscribe your own email address to the umbrella and see if you get the post. Check Mailman's logs, 'post', 'smtp', smtp-failure', 'vette' to see if the post got to/through the umbrella and if/why it got discarded by the sub-lists) The sub-list has to accept the post. This is going to depend on things like *_these_nonmembers and generic_non-member_action for the sub-lists or sub-list membership. You may want to subscribe - with delivery disabled - the umbrella-bounces address (the sender of posts from the umbrella) to each of the sub-lists. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Change the confirmtion request text and automated invitations
by Ulf Markwardt 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hi, I would like to automatically invite every new user of our computing center to our mailing list. But I need an adapted text for the invitation/confirmation request. This is, to decrease the possibility that this e-Mail might be considered an spam by the receiver. * Is it possible to adapt the invitation text "We have received a request from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx for subscription of your mailing list..." to the actual list? * In the Admin-Section, there is the chance to invite a list of users wit a personalized text. Is this option somehow available via the email interface? Thank You Ulf

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i need to pass the emai adresses in a mailman list to an excel file
by negocios_online 19 May '06

19 May '06

in order to check what servers are used in the mail adresses. Is there any way to do that?

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Problem with config.pck
by Markus Schanovsky 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hello! I am very sorry to ask for help, but I run into a big problem with mailman 2.18. Everytime I try to call an admin-pages of mailman or a user calls his personal admittance to his mailman-subscription I get the following error-message: ============== Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 47, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 629, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 595, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/dialog/config.pck' ====================================================== The rights for the files are: -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1867148 May 19 22:08 config.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 1867148 May 19 22:08 config.pck.last -rwxrwxrwx 1 www mailman 823 May 19 16:52 pending.pck -rwxrwxrwx 1 www mailman 665 May 19 11:57 request.pck Every time I change the permission to 777 I can reach the admin-pages, but if mailman is running (mailman.sh start) the permissions are quickly set back to the version You see above. Regardles who I set as owner:group - everytime the same effect. Now my question: Who is setting the file-permissions back? Who shall be the correct owner? What can I do? With best regards fram Vienna Mark ======================================================== Markus Schanovsky, Dipl. Ped. Pedagogical Institut of the council of Vienna IT-Administrator Burggasse 14-16/214 Tel: +43-1/523 62 22/93 222 A-1070 Vienna Fax: +43-1/523 62 22/99 93 200 Austria email: m.schanovsky(a)m56ssr.wien.at priv: mschano(a)aon.at Website: http://www.pi-wien.at ========================================================

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce-list only.
by Patrick Bogen 19 May '06

19 May '06

ASP has several different mechanisms for sending EMail, so I still can't give a definite answer. That said, this is pretty far outside the scope of the mailman-users list. Also, please try to post replies to the list, also, since that frees me from having to manually add the CC and top-post. - Patrick Bogen On 5/19/06, Fabiano Breves <fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have access to the source code and the application is written in ASP. > > []s > > On 5/19/06, Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > This depends on what language your internal application is written in, > > and whether or not you have access to the source code. > > > > On 5/19/06, Fabiano Breves <fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > > Patrick, > > > > > > Ok. Sorry about my next question. :-) > > > > > > How can I do that? I'm not getting the header part. The header for me > is > > > something that I do not have control of. But it seems I'm wrong... > > > > > > []s > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Then you just need to include an 'Approved' header with the value > > > > being whichever password you want to use. > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Fabiano Breves <fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Patrick, > > > > > > > > > > The fact is that I have two way of sending messages to this list: > One > > > is > > > > > using the Outlook Express program and other one is using an internal > > > > > aplication that sends the message in HTML format, and for this one I > > > would > > > > > like to use de header option, hard coded on the internal > application... > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Patrick Bogen < pdbogen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Fabiano Breves <fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I tested the method of using the first line with Approved: > password. > > > I > > > > > would > > > > > > > like to know how can I use the Header way. I don't know how > insert > > > it on > > > > > the > > > > > > > header of the message... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This depends on which MUA you're using. Why can't you use the > > > > > > first-line method? It's stripped out when the mail is delivered, > > > > > > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - Patrick Bogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fabiano de Carvalho Breves > > > > > fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > - Patrick Bogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Fabiano de Carvalho Breves > > > fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com > > > > > > -- > > - Patrick Bogen > > > > > > -- > > Fabiano de Carvalho Breves > fabiano.breves(a)gmail.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Everything is an attachment
by Barry Finkel 19 May '06

19 May '06

>> I think you're misinterpreting that post. I think she is saying her >> problem was caused by a footer which consisted of only a blank line >> and when she removed the footer completely, the problem went away. >That's not hard for me to believe (that I'm misinterpretting, I mean). Maybe the footer had a line that contained a non-ASCII and not-printable character? The line would look blank but would get stopped for the non us-ascii character. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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