Mailman 3 July 2006 - Mailman-Users

Contemplating new installation
by Jon Loose 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

Hi, I'm contemplating using mailman in a new system setup, and am hoping I could get a "heads up" warning about potential problems from the list before killing too much time on it. I have installed mailman before, using postfix on a redhat (ClarkConnect) server. It took a bit of fiddling with, but I got there in the end. The new project is a fedora core based server, purchased on a subscription. It runs qmail by default, and has plesk running to give some web-based admin. Given the constraint that we need to keep Plesk running, I'd be most pleased to be able to run mailman on top of qmail. Two points: First off, I've read that there are some unique issues with qmail/mailman. Does this make installation significantly harder than with a postfix system (it was as much as I could do to get the postfix/mailman system going - but I'm willing to persevere!) What are the main issues? Also, is Plesk likely to foul up the installation if it is used post the mailman install? Second, my previous install of mailman was 2.1.x running under /usr/local/mailman. I note that the fedora installation already seems to have mailman files distributed around the filesystem. Is there a standard installation now as part of fedora, and am I better to use this or stick with a fresh installation into /usr/local/mailman? One final related issue: this system has a greater need for security than the last one. Is it simple to administer the web side of mailman using https so that user login is ecrypted? Is there much needed for apache to be able to do this? As ever, many thanks in advance for any advice. The speed, knowledge and helpfulness of people on this list when I last had occasion to be here was just great! With thanks, Jon

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Add and Removelist from .txt file
by Eric Oye 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

I have few member lists under Mailman and I came across a situation where I would like to remove quite some members from different lists. What I'm doing now is browse through each list, searching for the particular email address and delete it. This method cost me alot of time. Is there any way for me to remove email addresses which compiled in a text file from all the lists? Is there any command which able to import the email from text file and remove from Mailman automatically? For those who came across the same situation before, please kindly advice. My mailman version is 2.1.6. Many thanks! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Add-and-Removelist-from-.txt-file-tf1996930.html#a548… Sent from the Mailman - Users forum at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] GID mismatch with Postfix on Fedora Core 5 install of mailman RPM
by Chris Lawson 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

On Jul 26, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Todd wrote: > This isn't really an rpm issue. It's a difference between sendmail > and postfix. Postfix will execute the wrapper script using the group > of the alias file where the wrapper command is defined. Thank you for taking the trouble to explain something even though it's written in the docs in various places. I've got it working thanks to you. In case anyone else has this problem, (recovering from a sendmail addiction while moving from FC4 to FC5) I'm documenting what I did to get this working. > Are your list aliases kept in the system-wide alias file or in a > mailman-specific alias file? They were in /etc/aliases (the system-wide one). After I got the postfix-mailman alias file working I did need to remove them from the system-wide one. It took precedence over the postfix-mailman alias file, it seems. > See section "6.1.1 Integrating Postfix and Mailman" in the > installation manual for complete details. The manual is available on > FC5 at: > > /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.8/admin/www/mailman-install/ This is a good start, but you also have to read /usr/share/doc/ mailman-2.1.8/INSTALL.REDHAT which tells you the directories mailman uses in FC5 have changed. Where once they were installed in /usr/ local/mailman, the binaries and what not are now in /usr/lib/mailman Most importantly, the output of the genaliases command, once you've changed your mm_cfg.py file to set your MTA = 'Postfix', doesn't go to /usr/lib/mailman/data/ it goes to /etc/mailman/data/ So postfix's main.cf has to point to /etc/mailman/aliases in addition to any other alias files you need to parse, the system-wide aliases file cannot have any mailman list entries in it, and the mm_cfg.py file (also found in /etc/mailman) has to specify MTA = 'Postfix' (case sensitive). cmkl -- Chris Lawson http://www.jungle.ca/

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held-messages and discard
by Dave Stern 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

I have a several thousand files in $MM/data/held-msg-LISTNAME-XXX.pck I presume these are spam or messages that have otherwise ended up queued, perhaps waiting for admin approval. I want to delete them so I > $MM/bin/discard $MM/data/heldmsg-somelist-4586.pck Discarded held msg #4586 for list somelist And often it works as indicated above. In some cases, I get a traceback > $MM/bin/discard $MM/data/heldmsg-anotherlist-2466.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "/export/mailman/bin/discard", line 120, in ? main() File "/export/mailman/bin/discard", line 106, in main mlist = MailList(listname) File "/export/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 126, in __init__ self.Lock() File "/export/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 163, in Lock self.Load() File "/export/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 580, in Load raise Errors.MMUnknownListError Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError I presume this is simply from a list that no longer exists. So why do I have so many? Or to put it another way, is there some way I can sanely determine which should be removed. As a first go round, I'm thinking of just saying, anything providing traceback, delete and anything older than one month delete as the admin is obviously ignoring the list. Does this sound reasonable? Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- generated by /dev/dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David Stern University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies

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keep html & scrub attachments
by Stuart Wyles 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere.... how do you preserve html formatting in the original message, and at the same time scrub any attachments, without the html being escaped? ie. I'm wanting messages arriving both at a subscribers inbox, and in the archive, to look like the original message (html intact) with only difference from the original being url's replacing attachments. I'm using Mailman 2.1.6 + mhonarc. Is it possible? I can't seem to set the right combination of options. What options should i set? thanks. ------------ stuart.

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Mailman and SpamAssassin
by Catherine Maxwell 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

I would like to hear feedback about any issues that may be caused by using SpamAssassin on a Mailman server. Spam is getting out of control and the spammers are hitting the listname-owner and listname-request addresses hard. We need to get this under control but we are getting mixed reviews here about using SpamAssassin with Mailman so I thought that I would ask you guys. Can you give me your feelings about this? If it is not a good idea, could you suggest an alternate method to get the job done? Thanks. --Catherine

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Exporting Lists
by Aaron Oliver 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Hopefully someone can help me out. The list server that is currently in use in our organization has completely stopped sending e-mails. It has been restarted several times and will no longer function like it should. I need to export the e-mail lists to move to a more reliable and stable system. However, when I export the file list, it does not match what is showing in the web interface. In fact, the web interface shows about 1000 more members than the file I exported. Can someone please point me in the right direction to find the proper file. I have used the list_members command to export the file. Thanks for you help. Aaron

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http://server/mailman/admin/
by John Clement 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

If I browse to that URL on our current server it shows a list of lists. If I go to the equivalent url on the new server (where I've already created some lists) I'm setting up I get There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on..... however if I then add a list name to the url and put the password in, authenticate, then go back to the original url I get the list of lists I expected. Have I missed a 'don't require authentication to see list of lists' tick box somewhere? Thanks - jc

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changing Member Options or Import dumpdb
by Michael Menge 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Hi, I want to change the language of all members in a mailinglist. I did't find a direct way so I thought I dump the config.pck file with dumpdb edit the language with search and import the changed output back. But i did't find a way to import the output of dumpdb back to the config.pck. Is ther a way to do so, or is ther a other way to change the language of all members? Thx Michael -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: menge(a)zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen

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GID mismatch with Postfix on Fedora Core 5 install of mailman RPM
by Chris Lawson 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Hi folks. Please excuse what may well be an FAQ but I did search the list archive and couldn't get an answer. I am running Postfix and Mailman on Fedora Core 5 system. More specifically: [root@production bin]# rpm -qv mailman mailman-2.1.8-0.FC5.1 [root@production bin]# rpm -qv postfix postfix-2.2.8-1.2 I have a bunch of lists that *were* working under Sendmail, but now with Postfix, I get a GID mismatch error for the mail wrapper. More specifically: > Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail > wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but the system's > mail server executed the mail script as group "nobody". Try > tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail", or re- > run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail- > gid=nobody'. ) Is there a way of getting the RPM version of mailman to expect a different mail wrapper GID? If I try to tweak the mail server (change main.cf to run as nobody) postfix fails. The process that's failing (local) already has the privileged flag set in master.cf. What am I missing? Or do I have to delete the RPM install and install from source --with-mail-gid=nobody? cmkl -- Chris Lawson http://www.jungle.ca/

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