Mailman 3 September 2006 - Mailman-Users

Consolidated Admin of Multiple MM lists?
by Ralph Oser 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

Happy Labor Day - Is it possible to tweak the individual settings on our 60+ MM lists at one time? Our site runs cPanel to provide us admin access to all our website functions, including access to individual MM lists via each lists admin panel. It sure would be nice not to have to log into each list and make the changes one..by...one. Any suggestions? Thanks, R Ralph C. Oser Secretary Alumni & Friends of Yorktown High School, Inc. admin(a)yorktownalums.org Serving the extended Yorktown community since 1996.

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Date for Posts - How is it decided?
by Drew Tenenholz 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Folks -- What is the 'official' date for a post? I am the admin for a small, moderated where the following seems to be happening: 1) The daily digest lists several posts from yesterday/early toady and has a delivery date of 'today'. 2) The message archive can be used to show the exact day the message was posted (today or yesterday). 3) Individual posts are being received with delivery dates exactly ONE MONTH in the FUTURE! Is this a Mailman setting, or is could it be the moderator has set their clock incorrectly set? Thanks in Advance, Drew Tenenholz

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix Question
by Mal 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Answer: In postfix config, add relayhost = smtp.yoursmtphost.com On 04/09/06, Brad Knowles <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> wrote: > At 12:51 PM -0400 2006-09-03, Jason [WeatherServer] wrote: > > > I know this isn't a postfix forum > > Correct. > > > but if anyone will know it is this > > list. > > Perhaps. > > > Is there a way to setup postfix that if it cannot deliver the > > email itself it will relay it to another server for delivery. > > Actually, this is a pure postfix question that has nothing to do with > Mailman or mailing lists. Try searching their documentation and > their FAQ at postfix.org. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <brad(a)stop.mail-abuse.org> > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania > Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 > > Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See <http://www.lopsa.org/>. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/maltokyo%40gmail.com > > Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp >

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French Accented Characters become "?"
by BdF 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

Hi there, We run a 400 user mailing list (www.lutecium.org) with Mailman 2.1.8-2, on Linux (Debian) Kernel 2.6.16-2. The main language is French, but our users also use English, Spanish and Portuguese. Some of our subscribers have complained about receiving the list's emails with ALL the French accented characters replaced by "?", which obviously makes reading difficult, if not ambiguous. The charset used by the original sender does not seem to matter (see examples below after my signature). Further, they insist that this happens ONLY on emails received from our discussion list. I have performed the following test: -email from me in both TXT and HTML (with French accented characters àèéïóùê) directly to user(s): no modifications. -(same) email from me in both TXT and HTML (with French accented characters àèéïóùê)to the subscription list: user(s) receive it with all accented characters replaced by "?". Trawling the Mailman's archives, I have not found something referring specifically to this issue, although I have seen emails from people having problem with German and Japanese characters. So: -is this a known issue? -If not, is it a user or a Mailman issue? -If a user issue, does it take place on sending (when being composed) or on receiving (when being read)? -If a Mailman issue, what settings should be changed? Cheers (from London) for all your good work === Bruno www.deflorence.com === EXAMPLES OF MANGLED EMAILS AS RECEIVED BY USERS VIA OUR LIST ========== EXAMPLE 1 ========== > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:36:41 +0200 > From: Yann Leroux <yann.leroux(a)laposte.net> > Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group] quelques notes de lecture sur > l'agressivit? en psychanalyse et son extension dans le champ du > politique > To: Groupe de travail pour la psychanalyse lacanienne > <lutecium-group(a)lutecium.org> > Message-ID: <44F2FF79.4080704(a)laposte.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Ecoutez Catherine, vous ?tes fatigante a dire partout la meme chose : > la jouissance, la loi, le symbolique, les > mechants-psy-qui-vous-veulent-du-mal et cela serait coquasse si vous > ne vous ?tiez pas instaur? psychanalyste en six mois. ========== EXAMPLE 2 ========== Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:04:54 +0200 > From: " roseli(a)infonie.fr " <roseli(a)infonie.fr> > Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group] quartier Lacan > To: " lutecium-group " <lutecium-group(a)lutecium.org> > Message-ID: <J4R2G6$0E1CD64E1A2F05203DC585153ED34AE2(a)aliceadsl.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > voil? le site sur lequel j'ai obtenu les vid?os de Lacan ? Louvain. > http://parolesdesjours.free.fr/lacan.htm > > utecium-group: Document interne au Groupe de Travail Lutecium. > Ne doit pas etre diffuse hors du groupe. > --- > comme de juste, la premi?re partie vient apr?s la deuxi?me;) si > quelqu'un avait louvain en int?grale, je serais tr?s int?ress? ========== EXAMPLE 3 ========== Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:40:50 +0100 From: "BdF" <bdf(a)deflorence.com> Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group] quartier Lacan To: "'Groupe de travail pour la psychanalyse lacanienne'" <lutecium-group(a)lutecium.org> Message-ID: <gwh.44f435ad.fa2b.a2(a)lon-mail-3.gradwell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ah, merci de cette indication Roseli, je m'occupe de les r?cup?rer et d'en faire une int?grale. D'autre part: si vous recevez un mail de Lutecium comportant des caract?res bizarres, envoyer le moi (en FORWARD) par l'interm?diaire Help-Me(a)lutecium.org.

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Postfix Question
by Jason [WeatherServer] 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

I know this isn't a postfix forum but if anyone will know it is this list. Is there a way to setup postfix that if it cannot deliver the email itself it will relay it to another server for delivery. -------------------------------------------- http://listserver.weatherserver.net Weather Alerts, Traffic Alerts, Toronto Fire CAD Alerts All to your email, 24/7/365 *****Visit us today*****

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Mailman working, but very slow delivery of posted mails
by Mal 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

Hello, I am running mailman / postfix on Ubuntu 6.06 (using apt-get latest standard versions) I have everything working correctly, except that when people send mails to the list, it takes on average one hour to send the mails out to subscribers!! The volume is only small now, as we are testing with only three people.. I have searched this list, but can not find an answer for slow delivery times on systems where mail volume is very low. If you have a clue what I could be missing, I would LOVE to get your advice. Thank you Mal

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config_list doesn't copy the HTML forthe public HTML pages
by Ken Winter 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

Thanks to Mark and others for getting me unstuck. All is well, except for one thing: The config_list utility doesn't include the "public HTML pages" (most importantly, the "General List Information Page") as part of the configuration that it copies from one list to another. This provokes three questions: 1. Is there some way to get config_list to do this? 2. Or is there some other utility that does it? 3. Or is there some easier way to do it that opening the "source" and "target" lists in the administrator we sites and cutting-and-pasting the HTML from one to the other? ~ TIA ~ Ken -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro@value.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:34 PM To: Ken Winter Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Some basic how-to questions Ken Winter wrote: >My host administrator says I have the privileges I need. Indeed, I can get >to /usr/local/mailman/ through a SSH shell. But, see, I'm more-or-less UNIX >/ LINUX ignorant, so I can't seem to get anything to happen from there. Can >you point me to some command line documentation that can get me through to >where I can do the stuff I need to do? cd /usr/local/mailman/ > 1. Delete an entire mailing list? bin/rmlist --help > 2. Clone the entire setup of a list, creating a new list with a > different name but the same configuration? bin/config_list --help bin/newlist --help > 3. Rename a list? See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.070.htp>. Also see <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.009.htp>. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Just archives
by David Dyer-Bennet 03 Sep '06

03 Sep '06

I've got a mailing list running successfully in Mailman, formerly on my own server, now being hosted at Dreamhost. A peculiarity of their implementation is that I don't have access to the archive files or any of the other mailman-specific directories; or apparently to the executables either (I haven't looked really hard, or asked; it's not key to my question). I've also got old archives of the mailing list, both old ezmlm archives, and from a more recent incarnation a large mbox file collected by a user (and a good thing, since I managed to lose my copy in a disk meltdown). What I think I want to do is leave the new/current mailing list, and its archives, alone, and put up the old archives in my web space. (A more aggressive approach would be to try to attach my old archives to the beginning of the new/current archive, so everything would be in one place. That would require a lot of reliance on Dreamhost tech support, since I don't have access to those files/directories, and they might not even be willing to do it.) So, what executables and configuration settings are key to this? I need to run "arch", it looks like, and have a mailing list configured that will define where it puts the resulting HTML files. Maybe also stuff to make the page templates match the rest of the website (I did that for the ezmlm-cgi version). And I only have to do this once (just to convert the old archives, static, no more messages). Might I be better off approaching this via pipermail? I'm not really clear, but I think that's a library for message archive handling, which mailman uses for its archives? So it might have all the parts of what I need, and maybe give me more freedom to write page layouts? -- David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/> RKBA: <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/> Pics: <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>

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RELEASED Mailman 2.1.9 release candidate 1
by Barry Warsaw 02 Sep '06

02 Sep '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Mailman development team, I'm happy to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.9 release candidate 1. This is primarily a bug fix and security release, although it also contains two new languages: Arabic and Vietnamese. This version is not yet recommended for production environments, however testing and feedback is greatly encouraged. My plan is to release 2.1.9 final by 10-Sep-2006. A more detailed list of changes will be included in the final release announcement. Mailman 2.1.9rc1.tgz is available from SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103 Translators: If you have any language updates you'd like to see in 2.1.9 final, please commit them now or send them to me. Enjoy, - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRPnRyXEjvBPtnXfVAQKuLAP/aUjiZEelQy/oObIadsrhVl9YzP9dcbfE jK1rJuGQsB7VKHe2X/uQWuaAy95pxhNwo/j/N9qtTaSjlZvjTC74E8WboxJmCemf A+azXWgaVY/C3L+HDneqFGBVZLXkKg+4IfxmKPALcEs88jHGzOpvlnuZEVzpyaon bOYFooMqc3c= =NWI4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman working, but very slow delivery of posted mails
by Bob Landman 02 Sep '06

02 Sep '06

If the ISP you are having delay problems with is AT&T you can forget about talking to them - they don't listen. We recently had a very serious issue with AT&T as one of our consultants in Utah uses them via Quest DSL. He didn't see the problem but we did. They delayed for a week, on average, every mail from another consultant in Florida who is on ISDN using Megapath. I got both their mails just fine and from AT&T to Megapath was no problem but the reverse was. We set up a relay forward through our mailserver but still we had problems so it seems that they were parsing the headers and rejecting mail from Megapath, perhaps as spam? Whatever the reason, it was clearly deliberate. They would not comment on the problem, would not solve it. In the end our Utah consultant had to get another ISP. Megapath tried to reason with AT&T and got nowhere. Bob Landman H&L

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Mailman-Users September 2006