Mailman 3 September 2006 - Mailman-Users

Mail going to list archives but not to list!
by Elizabeth Schwartz 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

I'm running mailman 2.1.8 on Solaris 10 (06/06) After working fine for a month, my mailman install broke this morning (I know something must have changed but I can't see what!) Mail sent to lists ends up in /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out . If I run unshunt, nothing changes. If I run unshunt /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out, the files go away from the qfiles directory but no mail is received by the users. I am not getting any error messages relating to this in any file that I can see. Nothing in any file in /usr/local/mailman/logs, nothing in any system or mail error files. Tearing my hair out here. Thanks for any clues as to what might be causing this or where to LOOK. Betsy

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Just want to verify ...
by Brandon Slaten 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

Hopefully this is just a quick one. Having looked through all the documentation that I can find, as well as the FAQ's. It is my understanding that Mailman needs to be installed on the same host that is running the mail server. Is this correct? am I missing something (certainly possible)? I could not find anything that plainly said so. Brandon Slaten UCAR/NCAR

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Daily admin post -- can it be weekly? (for low traffic lists)
by Bretton Vine 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

A question that's come up from list administrators is the issue of the daily administrative mail they get. In situations where the list is really low volume (yet somehow the listname finds itself in a spam database) the list owner is spending X minutes a day discarding these mails while the list itself may only get a legitimate mail once a week (or even less). I've noted that this is just the way things are intended with options being: [ ] get administrative mail for every request [ ] get a once a day mailing [ ] 'forget' administrative requests older than X days However this has been deemed insufficient as an answer. Is it possible to make some lists send out admin requests only one a week as opposed to daily? (some context) * some list admins just ignore the daily mailing no matter what * others [from majordomo background] don't necessarily use all the available options, which means the same spammer keeps sending to the list * some flat out refuse to have to do constant admin work on a low volume list -- | Bretton Vine | 083 633 8475 | bretton(a)hivemind.net | | GPG: http://bretton.hivemind.net/bretton_vine.asc | One day a mother comes home from work and asks her son, "What did you do today?" The son replied, "I taught our dog how to play the piano." The mother, incredulous, asked, "Our dog can play the piano?", to which the son laughed and replied, "Of course not mom. I said that I taught him; I didn't say that he learned how."

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help
by Patrick Bogen 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

On 9/27/06, Franky St. Pierre <speedyfs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I used no arguments for the installation. I am not sure what went wrong... This might be your problem. I haven't installed from source, personally, but as I recall, you have to give configure several parameters, such as where files go, etc. P.S., please keep all replies on-list -- - Patrick Bogen

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obscuring list addresses on the listinfo page
by Bretton Vine 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

Another question (and this may be dumb, advance apologies) but how can one obscure the list addresses on the http://lists.domain.net/mailman/listinfo/listname page? +------------------------------------------------------------ | Using listname | To post a message to all the list members, send email to | listname(a)domain.net. | | You can subscribe to the list, or change your existing | subscription, in the sections below. +------------------------------------------------------------ I see in editing the general HTML pages there is a code snippet: | To post a message to all the list members, send email to | <A HREF="mailto:<MM-Posting-Addr>"><MM-Posting-Addr></A>. 1. How would one obscure <MM-Posting-Addr> ? 2. How could you do it for 300+ lists thanks -- | Bretton Vine | 083 633 8475 | bretton(a)hivemind.net | | GPG: http://bretton.hivemind.net/bretton_vine.asc | "You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea." - Medgar Evers

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re confirming subscriptions
by Patrick Bogen 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

On 9/26/06, Duncan Gordon <duncan(a)gordon.co.za> wrote: > I can however ask my service provider to change the code for me... > > Any suggestions? There are probably several ways to do it. Some that come to mind are: (1) Adding a new state value to subscriptions for 'unconfirmed,' and then adding the appropriate infrastructure (e.g., to the web interface and/or the email command processor) for uses to confirm. (This is probably fairly difficult/complex) (2) Setting all users to delivery disabled, and sending out an email informing them that they need to 'reconfirm' by reenabling delivery (with instructions) (This may not be as 'neat' as you want, but doesn't actually require code changes, just the use of command-line utilities) P.s., please make sure to reply on-list, so that other, more knowledgable people, can weigh in, as well. -- - Patrick Bogen

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Re confirming subscriptions
by Duncan Gordon 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

Greetings Everyone. I'm new to the list so here goes. I have a list of about 4000 email address that i have accumulated here at work and added them to my weekly announcement list. I would like to send out an email asking them to reconfirm their subscription. Is this possible? I know i can use the mass delete and the mass invite but i would rather send out a mail asking them to reconfirm.. Any ideas? My mailman is on a shared hosting platform so i don't have access to all the important config files. Any help appreciated. Thanks DG -- "A mouse is an elephant built by the Japanese."

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importing an archive in such a way as to populate the associated newsgroup.
by Justin H Haynes 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

I set up a list recently, although actually a list by the same name has existed for 8 years and has changed hands and software numerous times. Mailman works very well for me and my list. I have the mail<>news gateway set up bidirectionally, and it works great as well. Several of us either use mail or news and see each others posts threading properly. The problem I am now trying to solve is how to get one 20,000 mailbox file into the newsgroup. This file has messages from different list softwares, though I believe most were mailman. I would consider this post off topic, were it not for the presence of Queue/NewsRunner.py which seems to have a lot of the necessary functionailty. So my question is: Suppose I were to temporarily turn off delivery to all the subscribers, and then somehow run the entire archive through Mailman in such a way that it were to deliver all the messages to the list. Would such an approach possibly be successful in getting all the messages into the newsgroup? Can mailman be invoked at the command line something like this?: cat archive.mbx | <some mailman executable> Thanks, Justin

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viewing archives
by Brian Lewis 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

I'm trying to view the archives of a list. I click on a link to /pipermail/nameoflist. Instead of showing me archives, I get sent to /mailman/listinfo. check_perms and check_db have told me everything is OK. There are no relevant error messages in apache logs. Using 2.1.9. Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade issue
by Mark Nernberg 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Help Desk wrote: >> >> We get the following string of errors during the upgrade phase, >> then a stop: >> >> >> Updating mailing list: river_city_referrals >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "bin/update", line 789, in ? >> errors = main() >> File "bin/update", line 679, in main >> errors = errors + dolist(listname) >> File "bin/update", line 192, in dolist >> mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) >> File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ >> self.Load() >> File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 629, in Load >> dict, e = self.__load(file) >> File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 602, in __load >> dict = loadfunc(fp) >> AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'append' >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman/work/mailman-2.1.9. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman. > > > It appears that the list river_city_referrals may have a corrupted > configuration file (lists/river_city_referrals/config.pck). The update > process may or may not have updated all the lists, but they will be > updated anyway as the lists are accessed. The software update was > finished at this point. > > Assuming you get the same error when attempting to access the list > (after fixing the problem below, try copying or moving the config.pck > aside and replacing it with the config.pck.last I hate to say it, but I already tried that. > >> In addition, when attempting to use the CGI interface, it does not >> run. We get the following errors (in the httpd-error log -- we're >> running Apache 2.0.54) >> >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] >> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [----- >> Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [----- >> Traceback ------] >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/ >> usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 82, in run_main >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] >> immediate=1) >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/ >> usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in >> __init__ >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] >> Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/ >> usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 50, in __init__ >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] >> self.__get_f() >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/ >> usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 68, in __get_f >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] 1) >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/ >> usr/local/lib/python2.4/codecs.py", line 666, in open >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] file >> = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) >> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] IOError: >> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' > > > There is a permissions problem on your Mailman logs. Try running > "bin/check_perms -f" as root until it reports no errors. > Done. That part worked. > -- > Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > >

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