Mailman 3 September 2006 - Mailman-Users

Mailman just stopped
by Carconni Sept. 25, 2006

Sept. 25, 2006

First, thank you Mr. Sapiro for all the help you provide us. I couldn't have gotten as far as I have with my mailmain program without you. Out of desperation, I backed up the inbox (/private/var/mailman/qfiles/in) and dumped it and the lists just started working again. I've started moving mail back little by little and everything seems to be okay now. I'm still not sure what happened. Aside from the logs I've already posted, there was nothing else to indicate what went wrong. I will … [View More]however look into rebuilding my mailman install if you believe that the installation should recoginize gb2312. Thanks again and until the next calamity, Constance Carconni wrote Mailman has been working beautifully for awhile now but yesterday it just stopped. I wound up repairing all of the databases but it happened again today. I'm getting the following error: Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) Uncaught runner exception: unknown encoding: gb2312 Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 74, in process prefix_subject(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 262, in prefix_subject h.append(s, c) File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-117.root~35/usr/share/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 285, in append LookupError: unknown encoding: gb2312 Sep 21 06:11:17 2006 (15075) SHUNTING: 1158844276.9904189+1e2464070413bcc3355b914153a142061eb60c6f Does anyone know what might be causing this and why it would happen suddenly like this. There are several things going on here. A message (most likely spam) is being posted to your list and accepted for delivery. This message has it's Subject: header encoded in the 'gb2312' (chinese) character set. Mailman is trying to decode the Subject: so it can add the subject_prefix and your Mailman/Python installation does not support/recognize the 'gb2312' character set. The above error occurs and the message is moved to Mailman's shunt queue where it will stay untouched until you manually remove it or queue it for reprocessing using bin/unshunt. You can use bin/show_qfiles or bin/dumpdb to look at the entries in qfiles/shunt and then just remove those you don't want. You can also adjust your list settings to be not so generous in what you accept. There is something wrong with your Mailman installation as it should recognize 'gb2312'. This specific error should not stop Mailman. It just shunts the message and that should be the end of it. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan [View Less]

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upgrade issue
by Help Desk Sept. 25, 2006

Sept. 25, 2006

One of our bone-headed admins was playing around on the server and "broke" something in Mailman. Rather than try to fix it (I'm not a Python programmer!), I decided it was time for an update via ports anyway. We get the following string of errors during the upgrade phase, then a stop: Updating mailing list: river_city_referrals Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 789, in ? errors = main() File "bin/update", line 679, in main errors = errors + dolist(… [View More]listname) File "bin/update", line 192, in dolist mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 629, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 602, in __load dict = loadfunc(fp) AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'append' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman/work/mailman-2.1.9. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman. In addition, when attempting to use the CGI interface, it does not run. We get the following errors (in the httpd-error log -- we're running Apache 2.0.54) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [----- Traceback ------] [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] Traceback (most recent call last): [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 82, in run_main [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] immediate=1) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in __init__ [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 50, in __init__ [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] self.__get_f() [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 68, in __get_f [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] 1) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/codecs.py", line 666, in open [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [----- Python Information -----] [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] sys.version = 2.4.3 (#2, Jul 30 2006, 19:01:16) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [GCC 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518] [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python2.4 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] sys.prefix = /usr/local [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] sys.exec_prefix = /usr/local [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] sys.path = /usr/local [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] sys.platform = freebsd6 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [----- Environment Variables -----] [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tforce_response_1_0: 1 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.0.58 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.0.58 OpenSSL/0.9.7g DAV/2 PHP/4.4.1 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.7 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/confirm [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.0.58 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.0.58 OpenSSL/0.9.7g DAV/2 PHP/4.4.1 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.7 Server at secure.downtownhelpdesk.com Port 443</address> [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tREQUEST_METHOD: GET [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tPATH_INFO: /river_city_referrals/95ea391a71ec4c05acf43009aeb2dc8e2bd26528 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tQUERY_STRING: [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.2) [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_NAME: secure.downtownhelpdesk.com [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tREMOTE_ADDR: 67.103.106.42 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tPATH_TRANSLATED: /usr/www/sites/1fast.us/river_city_referrals/95ea391a71ec4c05acf43009aeb2dc8e2bd26528 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_PORT: 443 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_ADDR: 192.168.254.34 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tDOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/www/sites/1fast.us [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tPYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tSERVER_ADMIN: webmaster(a)downtownhelpdesk.com [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTP_HOST: secure.downtownhelpdesk.com [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTPS: on [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tREQUEST_URI: /mailman/confirm/river_city_referrals/95ea391a71ec4c05acf43009aeb2dc8e2bd26528 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTP_ACCEPT: */* [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tnokeepalive: 1 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tGATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tREMOTE_PORT: 2126 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tdowngrade_1_0: 1 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tssl_unclean_shutdown: 1 [Mon Sep 25 10:46:49 2006] [error] [client 67.103.106.42] \tHTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate Any assisstance would be most appreciated! 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Automatically accept messages with implicit destination?
by Peter van Dorp Sept. 25, 2006

Sept. 25, 2006

Dear list members, All messages sent to my list are actually forwarded by means of a (single) mail address alias. This means that for each message, the To: address is not the list address; it is a mail alias that relays the mail to the list. As a -- much unwanted -- result, each message is submitted to the list administrator with the following request: ======================= As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: … [View More]

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Can I send to mailing list but not ported newsgroup?
by Mike Avery Sept. 25, 2006

Sept. 25, 2006

Due to demand, I'm porting a few usenet newsgroups to mailing lists, and that is working pretty well. However, every now and then I'd like to send administrivia to just the mailing list subscribers. Is there an easy way to do that? Or even a not-so-easy way? Thanks, Mike -- ...The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple/dynamic outbound smtp hosts?
by Mark Sapiro Sept. 25, 2006

Sept. 25, 2006

Ken MacFerrin wrote: >> >> What do you get in smtp-failure from this? > >Currently I don't get anything.. I only get the errors I listed in my >last email in /var/log/mailman/error. The /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure >log remains empty. Yes, I overlooked the blindingly obvious - see below. >>> self.__conn.local_hostname = 'localhost' >> >> >> I don't know why you want to do this. Also, if you need to do it, it is >> better … [View More]to give local_hostname='localhost' as an argument to the >> smtplib.SMTP() constructor. > >I was doing this to hide the primary hostname for the machine from >showing up in the Received header for mail being passed from Mailman to >the outbound virtual domain smtp server since I don't want the headers >to list the machine's fqdn in messages for the virtual domains. Before >doing this I was getting: >Received: from host.domain.name by smtp.virtualdomain.com (Postfix)... > >Doing this I now get: >Received: from localhost by smtp.virtualdomain.com (Postfix)... OK. I understand. >>> self.__numsessions = mm_cfg.SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION >>> self.__set_debuglevel = 1 >> >> >> This does nothing useful. what you want is >> >> self.__conn.set_debuglevel(1) >> >> and I would put it earlier - right after "self.__conn = >> smtplib.SMTP()". Debug messages should go to Mailman's error log. > >I tried as you mentioned here but kept getting the following error when >doing so: >Sep 24 18:42:45 2006 (23668) Uncaught runner exception: Connection >instance has no attribute '_Connection__set_debuglevel' I don't understand the above error. It works for me. >Here's the code I'm using now: > > def __connect(self): > self.__conn = smtplib.SMTP() > self.__set_debuglevel = 1 > if mlist: > host = mlist.host_name The blindingly obvious - mlist is undefined. > else: > host = mm_cfg.SMTPHOST > syslog('smtp-failure', 'host = %s, port = %s', host, >mm_cfg.SMTPPORT) > x = self.__conn.connect(host, mm_cfg.SMTPPORT) > syslog('smtp-failure', 'connect returns: %s', x) > self.__conn.local_hostname = 'localhost' > self.__numsessions = mm_cfg.SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION The attached patch works. This is a 2.1.9 base, you may have to adjust the line numbers and of course remove the debugging stuff. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan [View Less]

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multiple/dynamic outbound smtp hosts?
by Ken MacFerrin Sept. 24, 2006

Sept. 24, 2006

I have a Debian server running 3 instances of postfix (2.3) with separate domains that I would like to integrate with Mailman (2.1.8). At this point I have the web interfaces and incoming mail to the lists running fine using one Mailman install with POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS and the postfix-to-mailman.py script but have one remaining problem with outbound smtp. I'd like to avoid having to maintain multiple Mailman installs but don't want any overlap between the domains in the mailing lists … [View More]email headers by having to relay . My core issue is that I can't find a way to dynamically control what smtp host Mailman uses for outbound mail. I'd like to do something similar to what amavis-new does for this situation and have Mailman use the same domain name that it receives a message on for the outbound mail. The problem is that Mailman is receiving the mail through a pipe transport so everything appears to come from localhost. As an alternative, I'd like to find a way to tell Mailman to use the domain name of the mailing list for a message as the smtp server instead of the static SMTPHOST. I've been trying to modify SMTPDirect.py to do my bidding but my Python skills are sorely lacking so any help would be greatly appreciated. My initial attempts have been to try to substitute the "mm_cfg.SMTPHOST" variable with "mlist.host_name". Obviously being able to implement a solution directly in the mm_cfg file would be preferred but I'm not sure that's possible.. original SMTPDirect code: ------- class Connection: def __init__(self): self.__conn = None def __connect(self): self.__conn = smtplib.SMTP() self.__conn.connect(mm_cfg.SMTPHOST, mm_cfg.SMTPPORT) self.__numsessions = mm_cfg.SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION modified code: -------- class Connection: def __init__(self): self.__conn = None def __connect(self): self.__conn = smtplib.SMTP() syslog('smtp-failure', 'host = %s, port = %s', mlist.host_name, mm_cfg.SMTPPORT) x = self.__conn.connect(mlist.host_name, mm_cfg.SMTPPORT) syslog('smtp-failure', 'connect returns: %s', x) self.__conn.local_hostname = 'localhost' self.__numsessions = mm_cfg.SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION self.__set_debuglevel = 1 ------- Unfortunately, this fails with the following errors in the log: Sep 23 20:51:28 2006 (3126) Uncaught runner exception: SMTP instance has no attribute 'sock' Sep 23 20:51:28 2006 (3126) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 181, in process conn.quit() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 102, in quit self.__conn.quit() File "smtplib.py", line 716, in quit self.docmd("quit") File "smtplib.py", line 377, in docmd self.putcmd(cmd,args) File "smtplib.py", line 333, in putcmd self.send(str) File "smtplib.py", line 318, in send if self.sock: AttributeError: SMTP instance has no attribute 'sock' Thanks, Ken [View Less]

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Mass Discard Script?
by David A. Greene Sept. 24, 2006

Sept. 24, 2006

I've got a list that was so inundated with spam, the admin web page does not load fast enough before the browser times out. I've set the list to autodiscard from non-members but I need to clean out the moderation queue. Is there a way to discard all messages in the moderation queue without using the web interface? -Dave

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Daft question time
by Martin Dennett (Gmail) Sept. 23, 2006

Sept. 23, 2006

I've had mails from a number of ex-users of saying that they're told they're no longer members when they try to post (they're not!) but that they can still see the archives. Is it just a case of setting the "Is archive file source for public or private archival?" on the Archiving Options page to "private" to prevent them from seeing the mail archive? Like I said - daft question.... MD

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Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
by Stefan Grote Sept. 23, 2006

Sept. 23, 2006

Hi guys, after a new mailman install via apt on an Debian system i´'am getting the following errors: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. okay, but my Mailman error log is empty and my apache logs are empty too. what is now to do to solve the problem? Thanks! Stefan Grote.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!
by Dragon Sept. 22, 2006

Sept. 22, 2006

Elizabeth Schwartz sent the message below at 15:15 9/22/2006: >I'm running mailman 2.1.8 on Solaris 10 (06/06) > >After working fine for a month, my mailman install broke this morning (I >know something must have changed but I can't see what!) Mail sent to lists >ends up in /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out . If I run unshunt, nothing >changes. If I run unshunt /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out, the files go away >from the qfiles directory but no mail is received by the users. &… [View More]

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