Mailman 3 October 2007 - Mailman-Users

Re Problems with "more info" Hyperlink from List Archives Page
by Barry Finkel 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

I wrote, in part, >>... >>I have 13 lists. For each list I checked the URL chains from the >> >> https://lists.example.com/mailman/listinfo >> >>Mailman "home page", and for five of the lists I see URL problems. >> >>... >> >>Note that the Mailman list archives page lacks a "/" between "mailman" >>and "listinfo". For each of these bad lists I ran >> >> /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url $list -u lists.example.com >> >>but there were no changes to the URLs. >>... and "Richard Rae" <Richard_Rae(a)xyratex.com> replied: >You might need to run the fix_url command > >~/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname Is this any different than the command I ran? I tried the fix_url command without the -u lists.example.com parameter, and the URLs did not change. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Problems with "more info" Hyperlink from List Archives Page
by Barry Finkel 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

I have a test Mailman 2.1.9 machine, where I have created a number of test lists since I began testing Mailman. This is a Mailman package I created for Ubuntu from the 2.1.9 source. The only Debian/Ubuntu patch I installed was one to place files in different directories. I have 13 lists. For each list I checked the URL chains from the https://lists.example.com/mailman/listinfo Mailman "home page", and for five of the lists I see URL problems. I went from that Mailman "home page" to the "home page" for each list. I then went to the archives hyperlink. I then went to the "more information about this list" hyperlink. And from that list "home page" I went to the "Overview of all lists" hyperlink. The correct URLs are: good ==> https://lists.example.com/mailman/listinfo/good archives ==> https://lists.example.com/pipermail/good more info ==> https://lists.example.com/mailman/listinfo/good overview ==> https://lists.example.com/mailman/listinfo The five bad lists have bad hyperlinks to "more info" from the archives page: more info ==> https://localhost.localdomain/cgi-bin/mailmanlistinfo/mailman more info ==> https://lists.example.com/listinfo/bad2 more info ==> https://lists.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bad3 more info ==> https://lists.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bad4 more info ==> https://lists.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bad5 more info ==> https://lists.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bad6 Note that the Mailman list archives page lacks a "/" between "mailman" and "listinfo". For each of these bad lists I ran /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url $list -u lists.example.com but there were no changes to the URLs. It has been a number of months since I created these lists, so I do not remember what configuration changes I might have made while I was creating and testing these lists. What can I do to correct the hyperlinks? Thanks. I have no problems (none yet reported and none that I have seen) on the 214 lists on my production Mailman 2.1.9 machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix + mailman + ubuntu
by Dragon 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Richard Rae sent the message below at 15:38 10/30/2007: >Ok, been through the some of the steps. > >The services are running and so is qrunner. They are set to run on boot > >I have check the permissions, and they are all worng apparently. Do you >know how to resolve that? > >Thanks for the input :) ---------------- End original message. --------------------- Run the bin\check_perms script with the -f option until it reports no errors. You need to be logged in as root to do this. Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Not able to send and receive messages posted to a list.
by vasumg＠gmail.com 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Hi, Following are our details; - version of mailman you are running - 2.1.6, - how it was installed (via rpm, apt-get, or source) - No idea as it was installed long back and I am a New admin here. It should be thru's source as it is HP_UX. - version of OS your server is running - HP-UX astrus B.11.11 U 9000/800 909053504 unlimited-user license - the MTA (sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail, etc) running on your server - sendmail The bounced message: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Test Sent: 10/31/2007 12:26 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: gmf-dev-request(a)amnsix.domain .com on 10/31/2007 12:26 PM The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. If it still fails, contact your system administrator. < astrus.domain.com #5.0.0 X-Unix; 2> I treid all the steps given in FAQ, but it is still not working for me. Please help as all our mailing lists are down and people are waiting for a fix. Thanks, Vasumathi

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Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix + mailman + ubuntu
by Dragon 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Richard Rae sent the message below at 14:53 10/30/2007: >Thanks for getting back to me. I can not post to maillist at all. >Nothing is received. I have tried the help in the subject line to >trigger the help email back, and that has never been returned. OK, that sounds like Mailman isn't running. Did you start Mailman using the mailmanctl script? >When I create a new list I no longer get the aliases output details. But >that might be due to the integration between mailman and postfix >(although not sure!!) I don't use postfix but others here do, they can help you better than I in that regard. >Incase you have not gathered, I'm a newbie :) Hey, we all started somewhere, there's no shame in that. >I'll run through the troubleshoots, thanks for the link Excellent, report back with your success or more information on the failure when you get through the steps there. Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix + mailman + ubuntu
by Dragon 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Richard Rae sent the message below at 10:15 10/30/2007: >Hi All, > >I have installed mailman on a ubuntu box in order to replace a failing >old server. > >However I am hitting a few problems, and hope that you can help me. > >I have configured postfix correctly, and using telnet and other email >clients results in the email being delivered. However when I create a >newlist and notify the owner the email is never received. I have tried >everything that I can find, and I believe that the issue is something >small. > >Any input / request for info is welcome. > ---------------- End original message. --------------------- From your description of the problem, I am unsure if you can post to a list and see the post delivered. SOme clarification of exactly what is happening will help. In the meantime, see the troubleshooting tips here: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.078.htp There may be other things in the FAQ that may prove useful, it has a lot of information. (See the footer to any list post for a link to the FAQ). Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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postfix + mailman + ubuntu
by Richard Rae 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Hi All, I have installed mailman on a ubuntu box in order to replace a failing old server. However I am hitting a few problems, and hope that you can help me. I have configured postfix correctly, and using telnet and other email clients results in the email being delivered. However when I create a newlist and notify the owner the email is never received. I have tried everything that I can find, and I believe that the issue is something small. Any input / request for info is welcome. Regards Richard ______________________________________________________________________ This email may contain privileged or confidential information, which should only be used for the purpose for which it was sent by Xyratex. No further rights or licenses are granted to use such information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender by return and delete it. You may not use, copy, disclose or rely on the information contained in it. Internet email is susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment for which Xyratex does not accept liability. While we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure that this email is free of viruses, Xyratex does not accept liability for the presence of any computer viruses in this email, nor for any losses caused as a result of viruses. Xyratex Technology Limited (03134912), Registered in England & Wales, Registered Office, Langstone Road, Havant, Hampshire, PO9 1SA. The Xyratex group of companies also includes, Xyratex Ltd, registered in Bermuda, Xyratex International Inc, registered in California, Xyratex (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd registered in Malaysia, Xyratex Technology (Wuxi) Co Ltd registered in The People's Republic of China and Xyratex Japan Limited registered in Japan. ______________________________________________________________________

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Mac OS X Leopard upgrade experience
by Larry Stone 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Wasting no time, I experiemented over the weekend with upgrading a clone of my test server (Power PC) from Mac OS X Tiger (10.4.x) to Leopard (10.5). It was not as smooth as could be and a number of configuration changes were needed and I still have a startup problem. However, once I work around the startup issue (#5 below), it all seems to be working. 1) Apple has changed all the application specific user IDs from ZZZ to _ZZZ (e.g. mailman becomes _mailman). This requires changes to Postfix (not a Mailman topic per se) and requires Mailman to be reconfigured and remade. 2) Xinetd is gone. If mailman or anything else was still being started via xinetd, it needs to be changed to start with launchd (launchd was introduced with Tiger). 3) Apache is now Apache2. The configuration file is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf rather than /etc/httpd/httpd.conf. Customizations in /etc/httpd/httpd/conf are not migrated. In addition, tighter directory security in Apache2 requires additional customizations to allow access to the Mailman directories (sorry, I don't have them handy to include in this note) 4) System shutdown does not seem to shutdown mailman cleanly anymore requiring a 'mailmanctl -s start' to get mailman going. I've changed my launchd startup file to add the -s. That obviously adds some risk but at least for my environment, it's minimal. 5) Startup is intermittently(?) failing due to what seems to be a Leopard, not mailman, issue. I'm not at all sure what that "Stray process" message means and have not turned up anything useful in a web search. Oct 29 07:36:46 Leoptest mailman[56]: Starting Mailman's master qrunner. Oct 29 07:36:46 Leoptest com.apple.launchd[1] (mailman[56]): Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 83 PPID 1 Python Nothing appears in the mailman logs but unless I'm mistaken, the "Starting Mailman's ..." message comes from mailmanctl so mailmanctl is launching but then dying with that "Stray process" error. The Leopard provided version of Python 2.5.1 and I have mailman 2.1.9. -- Larry Stone lstone19(a)stonejongleux.com

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Issues with the unsubscribe feature of this list
by Brenn Kapitan 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Hi there, My client has chosen not to use this software and I have tried to unsubscribe, yet I still receive daily messages. Attached is my confirmation of my removal from the list from your server. Thank you Brenn Kapitan -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+brenn65=shaw.ca(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+brenn65=shaw.ca@python.org] On Behalf Of mailman-users-request(a)python.org Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:19 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 44, Issue 44 Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to mailman-users(a)python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mailman-users-request(a)python.org You can reach the person managing the list at mailman-users-owner(a)python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..."

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mmdsr question
by Troy Campbell 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

I'm trying to figure out how to find out the location of my queue directory e.g., for the mmdsr script: QUEUEDIR="/var/lib/mailman/qfiles" Thanks Troy

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