Mailman 3 February 2007 - Mailman-Users

Can email notification of approval be done?
by Paul Key 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi When a user posts to a moderated list and the list admin rejects their post they get an email to tell them their post has been rejected. What I want to do is when a poster to a moderated list is approved - they are sent an email by mailman telling them about the approval AND it would be nice if a third party could be cc'd this email at the same time. Can approval notification by email be done by mailman (in the same way it is done automatically for rejections)? Thanks Paul

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Alternatives to having a list own itself
by Kelly Jones 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

On 2/22/07, Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> wrote: > At 6:43 PM -0700 2/22/07, Kelly Jones wrote: > > > My question: what's the best way to handle a situation like this? Have > > a list owned by itself or "effectively" owned by itself. > > What I've done in situations similar to this, is to make the > listowner list itself owned by an alias that is directly resolvable > out of /etc/aliases. So, there is no loop -- owner mail for other > lists goes to the listowner list, owner mail for the listowner list > goes to the listmaster alias, and that's that. Thanks, Brad. My problem here is that the 'sysops' list changes frequently, and I don't want to maintain it in two places (/etc/mail/aliases and the list membership). I suppose I could have a script update /etc/mail/aliases using the output of "list_members sysops", but this seems kludgey. I'd also like members of 'sysops' to decide whether they want "message to 'sysops' awaiting approval" or not. If I make it an alias, everyone will get these emails. If I send it to a mailing list, I can setup a topic so that only people who want those messages will receive them. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.

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Subscribe command doesn't check for spam?
by Martin Hagelin 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

Hi, I'm using Mailman v. 2.1.9 on a Debian Linux platform. I'm running Exim4 as the MTA with spamassassin doing spam checking when messages are recived in Exim (Exiscan-acl). I've set up spam filtering rules in Mailman that will throw away messages that match ^X-Spam: YES in the headers. This works fine with most of the spam but messages that are sent to the *-subscribe address are accepted and not rejected. This means that mailman sends out confirmation requests to the spammers mail address, which most often is not valid or goes to some bogus address. I'm also adding to the flow of unwanted mail messages on the net... Is this a bug or a feature or have I gotten the things backwards? Shouldn't postings to the subscribe address be checked in the spam filter? Regards, /Martin

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line breaks
by Sean 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

This is probably an old topic to this list but I'm at a loss of how to explain the issue to some my mailman list users. Basically, they report messages coming through the list with odd line breaks. For example: This is the text of their message. After it is received from the list it places a line break so that some lines only contain one word and a new line starts. They feel it is the list doing this as they report the message looks fine when they send it to themselves. As I understand it has to do with the display system and how the mail is composed. Some mail clients will send the paragraph as one long line with a line break at the end of it, while some mail clients put a new line at the end of each line. Then the display system may have less columns than than where the new line is placed at and thus results in the mangled text. Does that sound right? Any feedback on the issue is welcomed and appreciated. Thanks, Sean

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list member address change by moderator
by vancleef＠lostwells.net 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. I've got a case where listmember(a)bellyup.com wants to become listmember(a)newisp.com. While the confirmation goes to newisp.com and requires the listmember response, I'd prefer to have a "just do it now" administrator method. Is there one? Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?
by Mark Sapiro 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

Mike Starr wrote: >Thanks so much for the help; I've set it to Reject for the moment. Could >you expand on why Discard might be better? Are there spam issues with >the concept of sending a rejection email? Yes. I send spam to your list spoofing joe(a)example.com as the sender. You send a reject message to joe(a)example.com which has my original spam attached. Poor joe receives my spam from you - not a good thing. Mailman 2.1.10 will have the ability to not include the original message in the rejection notice which will help, but currently it is included. So if the messages are just spam, it is better to discard them. OTOH, if there might be an occasional legitimate message from say a member posting from the wrong address or a non-member legitimately trying to reach the list, and you want to respond to these messages, then choose reject. The best practice is to filter spam ahead of Mailman so as little spam as possible even gets to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Auto-reject non-member messages?
by Mike Starr 24 Feb '07

24 Feb '07

I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the list from non-members. I looked at the available information and couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically reject any message to the list from a non-member. We're a small group with a tightly controlled membership so it won't be a problem to just blanket reject messages from non-subscribers. Thanks for your help. Mike -- Mike Starr Technical writer

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message delivered to list but altered for some
by Michael Rainey 23 Feb '07

23 Feb '07

A message is delivered to all list members, but some members get full message, while some a very abbreviated message with much of message not included. (There are many links in message but this has not been an issue previously.) I cannot now ascertain how many recipients fall into each category. I assume those who get only part of message may have something in common on their end, but it seems to be a quite significant number and I cannot identify. Is there anything on my admin or server settings I should be looking for? I am sure I read this before in list but cannot find in archives, must not be using correct search terms. Thank you. Michael

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user
by Mark Sapiro 23 Feb '07

23 Feb '07

Baris Basar wrote: >I'm using xp pro op. Sys. Are you running Mailman on this? If so, and if you have anything to add to <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq05.002.htp>, let us know. Jason Luck wrote: > >In my set-up...mm_cfg.py is located... > >/etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py >/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py > >...and Defaults.py is located... > >/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py And in general, mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py are located with all the other Mailman modules in the Mailman/ directory in the Mailman installation, wherever that is. And in RedHat FHS Mailman, /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py is a symlink to usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user
by Jason Luck 23 Feb '07

23 Feb '07

In my set-up...mm_cfg.py is located... /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...and Defaults.py is located... /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Baris Basar wrote: > Can i ask you something? Where's mm_cfg.py?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mailman-users-bounces+baris=mobilnet.com.tr(a)python.org > [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+baris=mobilnet.com.tr@python.org] On Behalf Of > Jason Luck > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 4:43 PM > To: Mark Sapiro > Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching > end-user > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > Jason Luck > > > > > >SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on > > > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' > > > MTA = 'Manual' > > > SMTPHOST = 'localhost' > > > SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib > > > SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' > > > > > > If the above are actually indented, this is bad. They shouldn't be. > > > > Is this from mm_cfg.py or Defaults.py? > > > > A bit confused on this...as I mentioned earlier, this was not in the > mm_cfg.py file, but in looking through the Defaults.py file I have the > following. > > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' > MTA = 'Manual' > SMTPHOST = 'localhost' > SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib > SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' > > I did notice in the Defaults.py file the following comment... > > # SMTP host and port, when DELIVERY_MODULE is 'SMTPDirect'. Make sure the > # host exists and is resolvable (i.e., if it's the default of "localhost" > be > # sure there's a localhost entry in your /etc/hosts file!) > > When I look in my /etc/hosts file...I have no entries. > > So I just added... > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > > ...and restarted the network. > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/baris%40mobilnet.com.tr > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > >

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