Mailman 3 February 2007 - Mailman-Users

postfix mailman
by Rich Feb. 22, 2007

Feb. 22, 2007

I have a working postfix server on fc6. I just installed mailman on the server and used webmin to setup a mailing list. In /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure I see: delivery to user@host failed with code -1:(111, Connection Refused) I find this quite odd since I can send and receive email normally. Ideas anyone?

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Messages got stuck in "in" queue due to one "bad" message
by Xueshan Feng Feb. 21, 2007

Feb. 21, 2007

Hello, We are running mailman 2.1.9. Recently we had a problem that mailman's Incoming qrunner died hard, which caused messages accumulated under qfiles/in directory. Restarting mailman didn't help. We finally identified a message on top of the queue, moved it aside, restarted mailman again, then mail will start flow. Putting that message back to the in queue will trigger the problem. The sender actually tried to send it again, and it caused the same problem. Before I got into the details of mailman logs, I'd like to ask: 1. What's the best way to detect "stalled" condition like this? We do monitor qrunner processes but in this case it didn't help because the qrunners were still running. Now I put in a script to monitor the number of files in "in" queue, and if it reaches a threshold, sends alert. 2. Why this message didn't get moved to shunt directory? 3. Can the mailman recover itself without human intervention? Details are followed: The following error message will repeat a couple of times in error log when this message was processed: Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): Traceback (most recent call last): Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in ? Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): main() Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): qrunner.run() Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in run Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): filecnt = self._oneloop() Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 164, in dequeue Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/__init__.py", line 52, in message_from_string Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Parser.py", line 75, in parsestr Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Parser.py", line 240, in _parsebody Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): msgobj = self.parsestr(part) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Parser.py", line 75, in parsestr Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Parser.py", line 146, in _parsebody Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): boundary = container.get_boundary() Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py", line 743, in get_boundary Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): boundary = self.get_param('boundary', missing) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py", line 608, in get_param Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): for k, v in self._get_params_preserve(failobj, header): Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Message.py", line 555, in _get_params_preserve Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): params = Utils.decode_params(params) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Utils.py", line 337, in decode_params Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): charset, language, value = decode_rfc2231(EMPTYSTRING.join(value)) Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Utils.py", line 284, in decode_rfc2231 Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): charset, language, s = parts Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 qrunner(25722): ValueError : unpack list of wrong size The qrunner log shows: Feb 20 07:55:52 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 27941, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (25722) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25722, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (25723) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25723, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (25724) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25724, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (25725) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25725, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:53 2007 (25726) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25726, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (25727) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25727, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (25728) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25728, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (25729) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25729, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:54 2007 (25731) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:55 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25731, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Feb 20 07:55:55 2007 (25734) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 20 07:55:55 2007 (27933) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 25734, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/4) [restarting] Xueshan --

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Mailbox Not Found
by Greg Sims Feb. 21, 2007

Feb. 21, 2007

Hi There, I have mailman installed, created a list, configured the list, loaded some email addresses and installed custom .html and .txt files. I tested the system by subscribing to the list using the custom subscribe.html file we've used in the past. I received a confirmation email requesting that I reply to confirm my subscription. When I replied to the email, the email bounced with a: For <newlist-request(a)dom.ain>, Site (dom.ain/xx.xx.xx.xx) said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17) I did need to make some updates to mm_cfg.py at install time. I updated the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_EMAIL. I have not done much of anything else to customize the install. Please give me a pointer on how to find the problem with this MailBox Not Found. Thanks, Greg

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importing held messages from dr system
by Lawren Quigley-Jones Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

Is there a way to import held messages from one mail system to another? I have multiple mailman servers but only manage them from one web interface. When a message gets held on one of the mail servers that is not primary it is not accessible via the web interface. I've tried simply copying the pck file over, but they aren't recognized. A restart of mailman doesn't do the trick either. I imagine that I would need to initiated a rebuild of a database.

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Adding Mhonarc to existing Mailman installation
by vancleef＠lostwells.net Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

I am building a new Mailman 2.1.9 installation tree, and want to configure it with Mhonarc and Mnogosearch. I notice that the Mhonarc patches change the config.pck version number from 96 to 96.2 because there seem to be some changes to the file definition. I have signed up on the mmi mailman-mnogosearch mail list and see what's involved, but have mailman-specific questions. What happens if I move a config.pck running on stock 2.1.9 (version 96) to this new tree? Is there something in Mailman that figures out how to remunge the config.pck file? Hank

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Excluding one list from nightly htdig
by Jason Ogresovich Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

All, We have several lists that are indexed with the nightly htdig script. There is one list I would like to exclude from htdig (it's too big, not very important, and brings the server to a crawl when htdig runs on this list). I examined the list configuration options using the config_list script, and also took a look at the blow_away_htdig script. Basically, I want htdig to run on all my lists except for this one specific list. The nightly_htdig script allows me to name all the lists that it would run on, but does not allow me to exclude just one. (naming them all would get far too tedious, would have to be updated as new lists come and go, etc) Is there a simple way to do this or an option for doing this that I may not be seeing? -Jason -- Jason Ogresovich, Customer Support MFM Software, Inc. mailto:support@mfm.com http://www.mfm.com/ http://support.mfm.com/

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Making all bounces, even temporary ones, go to list owner ASAP
by Kelly Jones Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

Many of my customers run tightly-controlled lists where it's important to know (immediately, if possible) if email to any of the members is bouncing (eg, an ISP mailing its customer base), even if the bounce is temporary. Is there a way to do this using the bounce processing options in Mailman? EG, set the warn threshold really low and have all warnings be cc'd to the list owner? An obvious hack is to tweak the alias generator to do things like: listname-bounces: listname-owner but is there a cleaner (and "officially supported") way? I realize the list owners will also get "vacation" replies, but that's OK (in this situation, it's worth the hassle of getting these to know when email is really bouncing) -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.

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revisiting Mailman content-type problem
by Ron Brogden Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

Howdy. While researching a problem that a user was having with long URLs getting wrapped in their Mac mail client I came across the following thread from last year dicussing the very same problem: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-February/049477.html To summarize, "delsp=yes; format=flowed" is getting dropped during Mailman's parsing of the message. At the time of the note above Mark Sapiro said that this was due to a mix of issues within Mailman plus the underlaying Python libraries. Has there been any change of the status of this issue or is the only workaround still to turn off attachement scrubbing and empty the header / footer? Mark said previously: "You might be able to avoid the problem if you set scrub_nondigest to No and make sure both msg_header and msg_footer are empty, but this may not be satisfactory for other reasons." Cheers! Ron -- islandnet.com http://www.islandnet.com support(a)islandnet.com ph: (250) 383-0096 fax: (250) 383-6698

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pipermail customization
by Denis Feb. 19, 2007

Feb. 19, 2007

Hi guys .. It's possible customize archived message page? (like http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-April/035963.html ) add custom header-footer-css ? As I understand this pages by generated by papermail. But unfortunately i can't find way to customize papermail. Thanks!

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customizable user options login page
by Erik Aronesty Feb. 18, 2007

Feb. 18, 2007

i added a template file "loginpage.html" and modifies options.py in order to be able to fully customize the page it's the only page my users see on a regular basis that isn't in the full style of my site http://www.documentroot.com/mailman/ (2 files) loginpage.html - english template example loginpage-options.py.txt - replacement for the loginpage function in Mailman/Cgi/options.py it seems to work fine (note, this is my first time coding in python) - erik

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