Mailman 3 February 2007 - Mailman-Users

Group mismatch error
by Barry Finkel 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

I am having a problem with Mailman. I have two test machines. On one (Sun Solaris 10) I installed Mailman 2.1.8 and then upgraded to 2.1.9. On the other (Ubuntu dapper), I installed the Mailman 2.1.5 package. Both installations worked after some simple fixups. As the Ubuntu Mailman package is 2.1.5 (i.e., some older version with Ubuntu/Debian changes that have not been sent back to the developers), I decided to build a Ubuntu/Debian package using the Mailman 2.1.9 source. After a few problems I built a package. I installed the package on Ubuntu, replacing the 2.1.5. When I sent mail to one of my test lists, I got this message: Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2: "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vm6bsftest3". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. I then ran bin/check_perms -f, and this is the output: vm6%% sudo /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/icons (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/Mailman (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/bin (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/cron (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/mail (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/scripts (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/templates (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/zh_CN (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/ar (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/ia (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/vi (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/zh_TW (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/ar/LC_MESSAGES (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/ia/LC_MESSAGES (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/vi/LC_MESSAGES (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/messages/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES (fixing) /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db owned by root (must be owned by list (fixing) Problems found: 19 Re-run as list (or root) with -f flag to fix vm6%% sudo /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found vm6%% I sent another test message to the same list, and I got this error messsage: Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 2: "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vm6bsftest3". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "list". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=list'. The only differences between the first error and the second are Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". ("nogroup" ==> "list") ... or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. (nogroup ==> list) When I built the Ubuntu 2.1.9 package, the configure had --with-mail-gid=daemon and I assume that the same was true of the Ubuntu 2.1.5 package I had initially installed. My questions are these: 1) Where is this group test being made? 2) What in the "check_perms" run caused the change in the message from "nogroup" to "list"? 3) My MTA is Postfix. The /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman executable has ownership root:list in both the Ubuntu 2.1.9 and 2.1.5 installations. Is there some file whose ownership has to change to correct this mismatch reported in the error message? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Change hundreds of digest subscribers to non-digest
by Jeff Pflueger 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Thanks for any help on this. We have a mailman list set-up as a newsletter type list. We'd like to send basic html formatted email. This seems to work seamlessly for regular subscribers - they receive the html email that was sent. However, "digest" subscribers get a message about the html being "scrubbed" and are provided with a link to view the message - not good at all. So I'd like to resolve this problem by either 1 - Disabling the digest option (easy) and then changing all the "digest" subscribers to regular subscribers (this appears to be difficult - doing it by hand would be impossible - big list) How does one do this? 2 - Somehow prevent the digests from "scrubbing" html Any help would be great! Thanks. Jeff

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Cron errors
by Bill Bedford 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

I'm getting a number of errors from cron scripts similar to this:- File "/Users/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 154, in ? main() File "/Users/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 110, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 629, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 595, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/Users/mailman/lists/e4um/config.pck' ls on /Users/mailman/lists/e4um gives -rw-rw---- 1 www mailman 46931 Feb 13 01:45 config.pck -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 46895 Feb 13 01:37 config.pck.last drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 264 Feb 5 12:44 en -rwxrwxr-x 1 mailman mailman 46 Feb 12 10:02 pending.pck -rwxrwxr-x 1 mailman mailman 24 Feb 12 10:02 request.pck Should config.pck be owned by mailman? or is there something else wrong? -- Bill Bedford

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listname-leave - wrong response
by Scot Hacker 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

On one of my lists, when a subscriber sends a message to listname- leave@domain, instead of the unsub confirmation, they get back the "Sorry, you're not allowed to post to this list" message (it's configured as a one-way list). Any idea what could cause this? Thanks, Scot

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Regarding converting mailman to a yahoo google groups type of interface
by mobiledreamers＠gmail.com 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Hello I love and use python a lot. And I m trying to make mailman, into a yahoo groups kind of interface, In that I want to find out if any of you guys tried to do this and integrate it into another webservice? Does mailman uses coroutines to send email, because a coroutine based email gateway can support much more email messages perday than a thread based one Mark

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Umbrealla list member verification
by Mark Paxton 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Hi, I'm after some advice about the set up of my mailing lists... any help would be appreciated! I have an number of umbrella lists that sends to a combination of 3 subscriber lists. e.g. U1 sends to S1, S2 and S3, but U2 sends to S1 and S2 only. I'd like it so that any member of a subscriber list can send to an umbrella list... but I'm hot sure how to do that. I think the easiest way would be to set up the sender filter so that it allows members of another list, though I don't know if that's possible. Any suggestions would be great! Thanks, Mark

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Groups
by Dan Good 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

Hello, I have recently rebuilt my mail server. Now, after the rebuild I'm finding that userA who is a member of groupZ requires approval to send to groupZ even though they are a member. How do I set this so that doesn't happen. Also, I'm finding that when userA sends to groupZ I get both a notification from the mailman group about this and a notifacation from the mailman group concerning the notifiacation being sent as well as a notification concerning the initial groupZ. Again, I'm a bit confused as to where to change these properties. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Dan Good Independence School District Independence, Iowa

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Challenge/Response
by Bob Morse 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

Thank you all for your insights in the Challenge/Response question. I am convinced this is not the way to go. In fact, I used some of the same arguments to the client when he brought it up. The problem remains, however: How do I prevent spoofing? In this case they have a real fear due to a board member who is soon to be ejected from the board and have organizational membership taken away. They feel he is capable (both emotionally and technically) of major disturbances on one or more of about a dozen mailing lists the organization maintains. What makes this even more of a challenge¹ is that the account is on a shared server.

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Approved: <password>
by Dave Filchak 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

I am trying to post to a one way (announce only) list using a user whose moderation bit is set, but am using the method described in the FAQ i.e. adding Approved: <password> to the first line of the body, with a carriage return and blank line after it. It keeps rejecting it with the standard "Sorry, this is an announce only list ...etc etc. Can someone tell me if this still works and how and perhaps how I add this to the header rather than the body? Mailman Version 2.1.9 Thanks Dave -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Importing data from an external source.
by Alan Meyer 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm using mailman as the list manager for a club with about 150 members. We have an online roster system that members use to update their names, addresses, email addresses, and some club specific stuff. However the roster software (home grown stuff that I wrote in Perl) can't do the sophisticated mailing service that mailman handles, so we use both programs. What I'm hoping for is a way to update the mailman database from my online roster. One approach might be an API call I could use to update the mailman database (I could write my end in Python if necessary). Another approach might be an import function that allows me to specify a file containing names and email addresses to import. I searched the archives but got no hits on "import" or "api". The FAQ suggests searching Google for "import" or "convert" with "inurl:mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/". But that wasn't helpful and I got no hits on the standard archives search engine. I did find a tantalizing hint in the FAQ at 5.1. It looks like if I create a file in mbox format I might be able to import it. It said to place the list as follows: archives/private/<list>.mbox/<list>.mbox (where <list> is your list name) and then run: bin/arch <list> archives/private/<list>.mbox/<list>.mbox Will that help me? I may not actually be able to do it even if it will because I'm using the computer in a hosted environment that provides me a Linux user login but it's running mailman under the mailman account using cpanel. I'd have to convince someone to let me do this - which might be possible if it's a secure thing to do, but not if it could affect other accounts on the system. I can't find any mailman files in my account tree and I'm assuming they're kept separately somewhere that I can't read much less update. Thanks in advance for any help or ideas. Alan Alan Meyer ameyer2(a)yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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