Mailman 3 February 2007 - Mailman-Users

My new job
by Barry Warsaw 04 Feb '07

04 Feb '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone, I just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I have started working for Canonical, the folks who distribute Ubuntu Linux and develop the Launchpad service for distributed open source development. I'm quite excited to be working for Canonical. They are a Python and Zope shop, very open source friendly, and based on Linux, so I'm working in an environment that's both familiar and fun. They're also a distributed company, without traditional offices, but with many folks working all over the world. They're also hiring <wink, wink>. :) While this is good for Barry (and hopefully good for Canonical :), I know you're thinking, "what does this mean for Mailman?" Well, I'm glad you asked! Part of my official duties will be to integrate Mailman with Launchpad so as to enable more powerful communication patterns among members of a distributed development team. While I won't be spending /all/ of my time on Mailman, it will be getting some official love. I hope that this will help move the current development branch closer to a release some time later this year. Other than that, not much will really change. Mailman is and will always be released under the GPL, and it will continue to be a GNU project. If you have any questions or concerns, please send them directly to me. I will attempt to answer them as best I can, and if there are common themes, I'll post updates here. Thanks for your support and keep on delivering with Mailman! - -Barry Here are some related links: http://www.canonical.com http://www.ubuntu.com http://launchpad.net P.S. I'll be at PyCon this year so if you're coming too, please say hi! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRcUTb3EjvBPtnXfVAQIQKgP/XFVeeDBn6QVXkE9oK1YJxyrLZZET5GxT TAvTJgfndkcWPuUpbC5D6hcpDNa6sfIgJnR3enoW7MgKpOAtIXTuXqPpNiFMBVT2 qUhlDHhwYzdJWWyzI/oXGRvt0lMqqA69Iu7A6DAKrgksBB128V/mYxTfv8BPmF4W uASb/9MkmAQ= =h+IQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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permissions denied
by dhottinger＠harrisonburg.k12.va.us 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

I keep getting a permissions denied error on my mailman que file. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "||/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post divtech" (reason: 1) (expanded from: <divtech(a)harrisonburg.k12.va.us>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/scripts/post", line 94, in ? main() File "/var/mailman/scripts/post", line 89, in main msg.Enqueue(mlist, tolist=1) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 176, in Enqueue dbfp = Utils.open_ex(dbfile, 'w') File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 601, in open_ex fd = os.open(filename, flags, perms) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/spool/mailman/qfiles/28b06832587685d7f1a7ebb30c4636a63e9b0a45.db' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 I moved my mailman directory to a new mailserver. The old one died. I pulled my files from my backup. What permissions needs to be on the mailman qfiles? Or do I have oter issues? I read through the faq, and dont seem to be able to find anything although I am getting a little punch drunk from looking at terminal all night. thanks ddh -- Dwayne Hottinger Network Administrator Harrisonburg City Public Schools

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Mailman installation on Solaris 10 crashes
by vancleef＠lostwells.net 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

A couple of weeks ago there were two or three posts about Mailman crashing on install of the Japanese and Korean Codecs. I swapped some offlist E-mails with Barry Sapiro and told him that I would investigate this for him when I did a fresh install of Solaris 10 on a box to be used as a Mailman mail server. Accordingly, this afternoon I did a default Jumpstart install of the Solaris 10 "entire package" on an Ultra 60 and added a gcc 3.3 development system from a Solaris Software Companion disk. One additional item was to set the install default path to pick up needed directories that are not included in the Solaris base install. PATH=$PATH:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/sfw/bin The last three directories in that order are significant. I did a build and install of Python 2.5 in /usr/local, and configured Mailman with the needed mail and cgi gid statments, then ran a make. Make install failed. The key section in the installation output is this: (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib /usr/sfw/bin/p ython setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --ins tall-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /usr/local/mailman/pyt honlib); \ done /usr/sfw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: UserWarning: 'licence' distribution option is deprecated; use 'license' warnings.warn(msg) /usr/ucb/cc: language optional software package not installed error: command '/usr/sfw/lib/python2.3/pycc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /usr/local/src/mailman-2.1.9/misc WHOOPS! What is with the very clear "/opt/sfw/lib/python2.3" when I just installed 2.5 and put it in /usr/local/bin? Yes, Sun has included an older version of Python in the Solaris 10 distribution. To build and install with a locally-built Python, you have to put --with-python=/path/to/python as a flag to the configure script. Doing so produced a clean make and install. Note that while the fact that the wrong version of Python is not clearly evident until the installation crashes, the make step is also done with the same version. As of this writing, I don't know what issues this raises for Mailman at runtime. Nor do I know what issues are raised if the offending packages are removed. The actual version reported is 2.3.3, and pkginfo includes the notation GNOME, so the runtime, at least, has some involvement if you are using the gnome desktop. An additional (and very well-known) Solaris "gotcha" is the error line /usr/ucb/cc: language optional software package not installed Evidently, the Solaris Python looks for a "cc" in the path. /usr/ucb/cc is simply a stub that most Solaris sysadmins rename or move after installation. The Sun Studio 11 native compiler is probably compatible with it, but there is still the objection to using an older Python. Hank

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail stuck in qfiles/in
by Allan Trick 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

I think I solved my own problem. Instead of just restarting qrunner, I did a stop and then a start. That did it. The clue was when I ran ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon' as FAQ 3.14 suggests, instead of there being eight processes there, there were only two. So I'm back in business. Any follow-up thoughts on why this happened? Anyway, thanks! Allan

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non-member approval based on header.
by John 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Has anyone implemented an automatic non-member approval based on a header value? thanks, John

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Email Commands
by Daniel Villavicencio 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Hi everyone, i´m newbie to linux and even more to mailman, and i would like to know how can i disable email commands from a specific list, i know i can disable some aliasses for that list, but i would like to know if there is another way not so drastic thanks. PD: sorry about my english but i speak spanish....

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Mail stuck in qfiles/in
by Allan Trick 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

Our Mailman 2.1.5 system (on a Red Hat Linux server w/sendmail) hasn't been working all week. I just discovered it, and the first thing I did was ./mailmanctl restart --- It appears to have done what I told it: Feb 02 09:43:31 2007 (1541) Master watcher caught SIGINT. Restarting. Feb 02 09:43:31 2007 (1549) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Feb 02 09:43:31 2007 (1549) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 02 09:43:31 2007 (1541) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 1549, sig: None, sts: 2, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 02 09:43:31 2007 (6814) RetryRunner qrunner started. Then I sent a message to list 'testlist2' - it appears to have been sent (this is from the maillog file): Feb 2 10:22:52 www sm-mta[9248]: l12GMpDR009246: to="|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist2", ctladdr=<testlist2(a)prin.edu> (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30512, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent But it wasn't posted. The last post to any list was: Jan 29 20:09:51 2007 (29673) post to 2018 from angie.wohlfarth(a)prin.edu, size=3180, message-id=<B66B90CC472EF54C9BAEB1E98C9D7CE80104894E(a)ss-exc-01.principia.local>, success There are 30 or so messages in qfiles/in waiting to be sent. The oldest ones looked rather large, so I moved them out of that directory and sent another message to my testlist. Still nothing. Any suggestions? Allan

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double attachments
by Mark Sapiro 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Back in December, there was a thread on duplicated jpeg images in posts from Mailman <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-December/054870.html>. I worked with the OP off line, and I diagnosed the problem as being a cPanel problem. cPanel Mailman 2.1.9-cp1 has some modification to add the msg_footer to a text/html part. The affected posts had multipart/related parts which had a text/html part referencing one or more image/jpeg parts. Apparently, cPanel's modification to insert msg_footer in the text/html part was also adding duplicate references to the images and also duplicating the image/jpeg parts. I posted this issue to a cPanel forum <http://forums.cpanel.net/search.php?searchid=1860274> in December, but there have been no replies. My suggested avoidance, since the affected list is an announce list, is to remove msg_footer from the list and add it instead as a signature to the post. It was not until yesterday that this was tested and proved viable, but since it did work, I am posting this 'closure' -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Monthly Reminders
by katie1＠mardiweb.com 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

I first installed Mailman with the name XXXXX(a)cohousing-corvallis.com. I have since killed that list and have another one active with a different domain name. I cancelled the list through the Cpanel on my hosting service. But, the three people who were on this list when it was cancelled are getting monthly reminders. The new maillist does not send monthly reminders since I have turned off this option. So, how do I get rid of this artifact and kill these reminders from a list that no longer exists? Kate

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2 Questions regarding Archiving
by sascha.kaempf＠arcor.de 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Hi list, i have to questions regarding Mailman´s Archive. 1) Is there a possibiliy to "customize" the design of Mailman´s Archive-Page ? 2) According to Mailman´s Documentation e-Mails are not archived if they have an "X-Archive: No"-Header. Can this function be disabled ? What if we want to archive all Mails, regardless of the value of X-Archive ? Thanks in advance. Kind regards Sascha

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