Mailman 3 March 2007 - Mailman-Users

need help with virtual domain
by Voravit T. March 6, 2007

March 6, 2007

Dear all, I have been trying to set up new a mailman (2.1.5) and would like to have true virtual host support since we are hosting roughly 10 virtual domains and most of them have the same list names. The old existing mailing list is also mailman (2.0.11), which runs with true virtual host support (probably it was patched). I have found that there are 2 alternatives, which I have tried both of them. 1. running different instances of mailman 2. using a patch I am relatively new with linux … [View More]administration. I think that the first solution is somewhat complicated and difficult to maintain. So, I preferred the second solution. However, the patches that I found was not working properly. Here are the 2 patches that I have tried. (both gave me the same problems) 1. from sourceforge page (http://al.blog.free.fr/mailman/mailman-vh-2.1.5.patch) 2. from wiki.koumbit.net (http://lethe.koumbit.net/svn/koumbit/trunk/patches/mailman-true-virtual-2.1…) I am running Debian sarge having all packages from stable repository (mailman 2.1.5-8sar with postfix 2.1.5-9) There are 2 problems I got after patching. 1. The mailing list in virtual-domain file was not generated correctly. Here is a part of virtual-mailman file after generated a new list called tt(a)stockholmopen.net #virtual-mailman #I created a list called tt(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net-admin(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net-admin tt-stockholmopen.net-bounces(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net-bounces while the expecting result should be something like the following: tt(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net tt-admin(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net-admin tt-bounces(a)stockholmopen.net tt-stockholmopen.net-bounces I am running Debian sarge stable Here is part of my mm_cfg.py #mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ssvl.kth.se' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'smtp.ssvl.kth.se' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('mail.stockholmopen.net', 'stockholmopen.net') MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['stockholmopen.net'] 2. After create a new list, the list does not show up on the web interface (both listinfo and admin) eventhough it has advertised=1. I could access the page by typing the URL manaully for example http://mail.stockholmopen.net/mailman/admin/tt-stockholmopen.net However, all the links on the page will point to http://stockholmopen.net/mailman/x rather than http://mail.stockholmopen.net/mailman/x As mentioned earlier, I am rather new linux user and never run a patch before I did the following: #cd /var/lib #patch -p0 < mailman-vh-2.1.5.patch Is this the right way to patch or do I need to change something in the patch file before I patch it? and if this is correctly done, could you give me some suggestion of how can I get all links on the administrative interface to point to correct name? Best regards, Voravit T. [View Less]

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Posting Problems
by Jeremy Bowen March 6, 2007

March 6, 2007

Greetings all, I have just installed mailman and it looks like it will work really great for what we need! I seem to be having an issue though. I cannot seem to post to the list no matter what I do! I set myself as administrator and then restricted posts to the list to admins. When I send an e-mail to the list it bounces even though I am sending from the address listed as admin! I have looked through the doc's and changed this and that but to no avail! HELP!! Thanks, Jeremy Bowen

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mime conversions - missing carriage returns andoddcharacters
by Mike Starr March 5, 2007

March 5, 2007

Butting in here where I probably don't belong (I'm speaking here more as a mailing list end user than as a list administrator) but as simple as that wish is, it ain't gonna happen. I subscribe to a number of mailing lists, some of them mailman powered, some of them lyris-powered and some of them yahoo-powered. I always subscribe to the digest version and while mailman and yahoo do the best job of building digests, no amount of harping, whining, cajoling and/or threatening will get end users to … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mime conversions - missing carriage returns andoddcharacters
by Mark Sapiro March 5, 2007

March 5, 2007

Ryan Steele wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Ryan Steele wrote: >> >>> Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>>> Do you have convert_html_to_plaintext set to Yes? >>>> >>>> >>> Affirmative, I do. >>> >> >> >> Based on what I see, I don't think that is the problem. It definitely IS the issue with this one. >I'm still working on getting the client to be able to consistently >… [View More]reproduce the character misrepresentation (UTF-8) issue, so I won't >bother the list with that for now. However, here's a good example of >one with stripped carriage returns. Sorry for the delay. I didn't post >this to the list because I didn't want a search engine spider crawling >the information in the header... feel free to post a reply with those >snipped! > >Before making it to the list (carriage return omission example): > >###################################################################################### > <snip> >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 >Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <snip> > ><html> ><body> >Hello, Ryan >I am writing each line flush left >And, I have inserted a CR between each line >I am copying you on the original >And sending a copy to test2 >I think you'll see that the text shifts 2 spaces to the right >And that all the CRs are deleted >And that urls get footnoted. >For instance, > ><a href="http://www.odnetwork.org/" eudora="autourl">www.odnetwork.org > ></a>Plus the url in my sig block >I am typing bold in bold and italics in italics >I hope that helps. >Bill you will also get a copy of this, which you can ignore. >Matt > <snip> </body> ></html> > >###################################################################################### > >After making it to the list (carriage return omission example): > >###################################################################################### > <snip> >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 <snip> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <snip> > > > > Hello, Ryan > I am writing each line flush left > And, I have inserted a CR between each line > I am copying you on the original > And sending a copy to test2 > I think you'll see that the text shifts 2 spaces to the right > And that all the CRs are deleted > And that urls get footnoted. > For instance, [1]www.odnetwork.org > Plus the url in my sig block > I am typing bold in bold and italics in italics > I hope that helps. > Bill you will also get a copy of this, which you can ignore. > Matt > <snip> > >References > > 1. http://www.odnetwork.org/ <snip> The original post was html only, thus it was converted to plain text. The indentation and footnoting of hyperlinks is all done by your HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND (default = '/usr/bin/lynx -dump %(filename)s'). I'm not sure what 'carriage returns' are missing, but if you're referring to the html that renders as double spaces being renderd single spaced, that's lynx too. If you prefer a double spaced rendering, you can put HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = '/usr/bin/links -dump %(filename)s' in mm_cfg.py to replace lynx with links (verify that you have links and that is the correct path). The rest of what links does with this is very similar to what lynx does. If in the other cases, we are converting utf-8 html to plain text, I think that explains why we 'lose' the character set. I think there are definitely problems in this area. It didn't look like that was the issue from a previous post, but as the messages were incomplete in that example, I may have misinterpreted what was happening. If your client would post plain text or even multipart/alternative, we wouldn't have to convert the html. See <http://www.expita.com/nomime.html#eudora5> (hopefully it also applies to Eudora 7.) -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan [View Less]

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Upgrade problem
by Steve Burling March 4, 2007

March 4, 2007

I just tried to upgrade our Mailman 2.1.4 install to Mailman 2.1.9. I didn't get very far -- as soon as I tried to visit the listinfo page, I got the "sorry we've hit a bug" message: --- Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. --- Unfortunately, nothing was … [View More]

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One subscribe to multiple lists or equivalent?
by Steve McInerney March 4, 2007

March 4, 2007

Hi, Trying to discover a method for having a single user subscribe to multiple lists, once. One sole confirm message, not one per list. Or.... Am thinking that a single list with judicious use of topics may also work. The problem then becomes one of having a front end form that allows a selection of topics within the subscription page. The idea being to avoid users (who are extremely non-technical) from having to subscribe, confirm, visit this page, select these things etc. Single form: … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List Configuration Files
by Aaron Todd March 4, 2007

March 4, 2007

Mark, Just in cast you want to make note of this or for any future readers who are looking for the same thing...the location of mailman under a cPanel install is in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman After figuring that out running the config_list -o command worked perfect. The only other problem I had was with the list name. I first tried the name if the list without the domain name and it would not accept it. I then tried it with the domain, but also with the @ symbol. That wasn'… [View More]

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Urgent newbie help - "Hit a bug" page
by John Fleming March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

Never seen this before - When visiting mailman listinfo web page, I get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. - and my lists aren't working. Restarting qrunner or rebooting (!) don't help. Anything stand out to you in the error log below? pid file missing?? … [View More]How would that happen? Any help for this newbie would be greatly appreciated! Thanks - John Mar 02 07:35:40 2007 admin(5190): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(5190): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -----] admin(5190): [----- Traceback ------] admin(5190): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(5190): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 110, in run_main admin(5190): main() admin(5190): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 42, in main admin(5190): listinfo_overview() admin(5190): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 88, in listinfo_overview admin(5190): if mlist.advertised: admin(5190): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ admin(5190): raise AttributeError, name admin(5190): AttributeError: advertised admin(5190): [----- Python Information -----] admin(5190): sys.version = 2.3.5 (#2, Oct 16 2006, 19:19:48) [GCC 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)] admin(5190): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(5190): sys.prefix = /usr admin(5190): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(5190): sys.path = /usr admin(5190): sys.platform = linux2 admin(5190): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(5190): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-18 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e admin(5190): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo admin(5190): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.33 Server at impactoveneto.org Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(5190): admin(5190): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(5190): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(5190): QUERY_STRING: admin(5190): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) admin(5190): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(5190): SERVER_NAME: impactoveneto.org admin(5190): REMOTE_ADDR: 64.105.150.50 admin(5190): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(5190): SERVER_ADDR: 64.105.150.51 admin(5190): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/impactoveneto/www/ admin(5190): PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman admin(5190): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin//listinfo admin(5190): SERVER_ADMIN: john(a)wa9als.com admin(5190): HTTP_HOST: impactoveneto.org admin(5190): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo admin(5190): HTTP_ACCEPT: */* admin(5190): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(5190): REMOTE_PORT: 33351 admin(5190): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us admin(5190): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate Mar 02 07:36:48 2007 mailmanctl(5284): PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/mailman.pid Mar 02 07:36:48 2007 mailmanctl(5284): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid' Mar 02 07:36:48 2007 mailmanctl(5284): Is qrunner even running? Mar 02 07:36:50 2007 (5290) Uncaught runner exception: language Mar 02 07:36:50 2007 (5290) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 161, in _onefile lang = mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 116, in getMemberLanguage lang = self.__mlist.language.get( File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ raise AttributeError, name AttributeError: language ---------------------------------------- SNIP--------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar 02 07:37:14 2007 (5311) SHUNTING: 1008297783.149177+211c1bb30212c20dd5eb5087684a8ae9e272e80e Mar 02 07:37:25 2007 admin(5327): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(5327): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -----] admin(5327): [----- Traceback ------] admin(5327): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(5327): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 110, in run_main admin(5327): main() admin(5327): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 42, in main admin(5327): listinfo_overview() admin(5327): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 88, in listinfo_overview admin(5327): if mlist.advertised: admin(5327): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ admin(5327): raise AttributeError, name admin(5327): AttributeError: advertised admin(5327): [----- Python Information -----] admin(5327): sys.version = 2.3.5 (#2, Oct 16 2006, 19:19:48) [GCC 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)] admin(5327): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(5327): sys.prefix = /usr admin(5327): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(5327): sys.path = /usr admin(5327): sys.platform = linux2 admin(5327): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(5327): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-18 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e admin(5327): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo admin(5327): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.33 Server at wa9als.com Port 443</ADDRESS> admin(5327): admin(5327): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(5327): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(5327): QUERY_STRING: admin(5327): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) admin(5327): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(5327): SERVER_NAME: wa9als.com admin(5327): REMOTE_ADDR: 64.105.150.50 admin(5327): SERVER_PORT: 443 admin(5327): SERVER_ADDR: 64.105.150.51 admin(5327): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/wa9als/www/ admin(5327): PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman admin(5327): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin//listinfo admin(5327): SERVER_ADMIN: john(a)wa9als.com admin(5327): HTTP_HOST: wa9als.com admin(5327): HTTPS: on admin(5327): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo admin(5327): HTTP_ACCEPT: */* admin(5327): nokeepalive: 1 admin(5327): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(5327): REMOTE_PORT: 32889 admin(5327): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us admin(5327): ssl_unclean_shutdown: 1 admin(5327): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate Mar 02 07:37:28 2007 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: language Mar 02 07:37:28 2007 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 161, in _onefile lang = mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 116, in getMemberLanguage lang = self.__mlist.language.get( File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ raise AttributeError, name AttributeError: language Mar 02 07:37:28 2007 (5311) SHUNTING: 1008298314.179932+606e3627579e7c6452b0ba13fd944c61f7270b7d Mar 02 07:37:28 2007 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: language Mar 02 07:37:28 2007 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 161, in _onefile lang = mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 116, in getMemberLanguage lang = self.__mlist.language.get( File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ raise AttributeError, name AttributeError: language Mar 02 07:37:28 2007 (5311) SHUNTING: 1008300154.540808+655c3679244a683adab6b4042bb9b8fb837ac091 Mar 02 07:37:39 2007 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: language Mar 02 07:37:39 2007 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 161, in _onefile lang = mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 116, in getMemberLanguage lang = self.__mlist.language.get( File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ raise AttributeError, name AttributeError: language Mar 02 07:37:39 2007 (5311) SHUNTING: 1008301472.112578+b7dc21277ef8cadb2bc534bf5cafe2cfa0b49077 Mar 02 07:37:39 2007 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: language Mar 02 07:37:39 2007 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 161, in _onefile lang = mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 116, in getMemberLanguage lang = self.__mlist.language.get( File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__ raise AttributeError, name AttributeError: language Mar 02 07:37:39 2007 (5311) SHUNTING: 1008302599.373763+372efc2078e05d9cb3068567343a2358bf061dc5 Mar 02 07:37:49 2007 (5311) Uncaught runner exception: (4, 'Interrupted system call') Mar 02 07:37:49 2007 (5311) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py", line 76, in process score, symbols = check_message(mlist, str(msg)) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py", line 62, in check_message res = connection.check(spamd.SYMBOLS, message) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/spamd.py", line 122, in check response = fp.readline() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 338, in readline data = self._sock.recv(self._rbufsize) error: (4, 'Interrupted system call') Mar 02 07:37:49 2007 (5311) SHUNTING: 1008303067.2221119+3eb7cfce1e28cd1f4f8c7c6467d1a7c2974a9319 [View Less]

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Issue with mailman recieving posts
by Mitchell, Michael March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

Hi we just migrated to a new server and moved the mailman lists over as described in the FAQ. I am not the one who originally set it up and have never worked with mailman and sendmail before this. Originally all the mails to the lists were being bounced by sendmail, that I solved through the FAQ also but now they seem to arrive in the queue but go no where. If it was posting the messages to the lists then I would suspect something wrong with sendmail but that is not the issue. The alias … [View More]

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Mailing List Configuration Files
by Aaron Todd March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Hello, I manage about ten different lists that all need to have almost the exact set of settings. The main difference between each one is the name. Is there a configuration file for each list that I can compare rather than comparing the settings of each web page in the admin interface. -- Aaron Todd * *

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