Mailman 3 March 2007 - Mailman-Users

Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused') errors
by Will Nordmeyer March 27, 2007

March 27, 2007

Hi, I've searched the FAQ, and followed the steps in 3.14, but cannot resolve this error. Mar 27 03:35:58 2007 (20228) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: mailman.184.1171871291.3116.listname(a)domainname.tld I'm running on a CentOS system, and installed from source. My netstat - na | grep ":25 " indicates: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN My Defaults.py has: DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' MTA = 'Manual' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' (and none are overwritten by anything in mm_cfg.py) mm_cfg.py has: add_virtualhost('www.domainname.tld', 'domainname.tld') /etc/hosts has: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain I've tried changing the SMTPHOST to my local server name, and the actual IP address for the server. /etc/access has a RELAY command for 127.0.0.1 and all IPs assigned to the server. Any other suggestions - I've got a client who needs to get an email out to the list asap. --Will

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam of sorts
by Barry Finkel March 27, 2007

March 27, 2007

Paul Tomblin <ptomblin(a)xcski.com> wrote: >When I moved my lists from my home machine (xcski.com) to a virtual >private server (list.xcski.com), I used postfix's >"/etc/postfix/relocated" to cause requests for the old list names to >bounce with a message giving the new list names. Spammers never read >those bounce messages, but real people might. You could use that to >make sure if people are requesting the old list address that they get >told of the new list address. > >Or if you just want the list to be available at both locations, I >imagine you could just make your own entries in the aliases file (the >main one, not the one mailman manages) for the old location. I have moved a few lists from Majordomo to Mailman. The Mailman machine is a different machine that the Majordomo machine. So, list(a)example.com became list(a)mailman.example.com and I added an entry to the alias file on the Majordomo machine redirecting mail. Someone sent mail to list(a)example.com and the mail was received by Mailman but held for approval because the list name was not in the "To:" or "Cc:" lines. I had to change the require_explicit_destination parm from "True" to "False" to get around this. Once all of the posters use the new list address, I can remove the alias and change this parm back to "True". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to move lists/subscribers to new machine?
by Mark Sapiro March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

Peter Matulis wrote: > >I have managed to fix up everything with the exception of a certain link >that is found in all archived messages ("More information about this list"). > It still refers to the old URL. Actually, the only difference is that the >old one used https and the new one doesn't. Pages which are updated with new posts and the main table of contents will get the correct link when they are updated. The listinfo links in old archives can only be fixed by editing the actual archive pages (perhaps with a shell script) or by rebuilding the archives with bin/arch. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Mm-handler user unknown problem
by Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

Dear All, Using: Red Hat Linux release 9 Mailman 2.1.9 Sendmail 8.12.8 First of all i'm a total sendmail noob so please be nice :-D I've been scrolling through FAQ's mailinglists etc all day and found many people have this problem but didn't find a really good solution for this.. Most problems seem to be related to people forgetting to setup aliases, but in this case i'm using mm-handler which as far as i understand overrides the use of aliases and only needs some address in the virtusertable. (if address doesn't exist in virtusertable then goto mm-handler and get specific mailinglist address) I got everything up and running, made the test list, received the mails from the test list, was able to subscribe people to it using the webinterface, the newly subscribed people also received the mails. Problem is when trying to send a mail to the new mailinglist. 550 5.1.1 <testlist(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com>... User unknown I followed all the instructions according to the README.mm-handler file. My handler file looks like this: /etc/mail/mm-handler -rwxr-xr-- 1 mailman mailman 5951 Mar 20 13:39 mm-handler The link to mailman: [root@senldogo0013 mail]# cd /etc/smrsh/ [root@senldogo0013 smrsh]# ll total 5 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Mar 20 10:22 . drwxr-xr-x 50 root root 4096 Mar 20 15:21 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Mar 20 10:22 mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The appropriate parts of the sendmail.cf (at least i think these are only the appropriate ones concerning this problem) # Mailer table (overriding domains) Kmailertable hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable.db # Virtual user table (maps incoming users) Kvirtuser hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db Mmailman, P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailman, S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, A=mm-handler $h $u Mailertable looks like this: senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com mailman:senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com And the Virtusertable like this: mailman(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com mailman-owner(a)senldogo0013.sprinegr-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com MAILER-DAEMON(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com postmaster(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com webmaster(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com abuse(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com root(a)senldogo0013.springer-sbm.com support_smarthost(a)springer-sbm.com When sending a test message to either of the above mentioned addresses works which indicates that the virtusertable file is active and working. When trying to send a test message to a invalid or valid mailinglist address i get the user unknown message back from sendmail and not the error message i'm expecting from the mm-handler which indicates to me that sendmail isn't properly seeing the mm-handler. My main concern is the sendmail.cf, i first edited the os delivered sendmail.mc file did some cut pasting from the mailman.mc file then generated the sendmail.cf file using the proper m4 method. Maybe someone can give me a basic sendmail.cf which can be easily used for the basic mail & mailman functionality cause the mailman.mc file which comes with the package can't be used cause that one gives lots of errors. Thanks for the help! - Marco van Kammen Springer Unix / Exchange System Manager Floor Manager / Postmaster - Van Godewijckstraat 30 | 3311 GX Office Number: 05E21 P.O. Box 17 | 3300 AA Dordrecht | The Netherlands tel +31 (0) 78 657 6446 fax +31 (0) 78 657 6302 Marco.vanKammen(a)springer.com www.springer.com <http://www.springer.com/> -

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template location
by Denis March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

I need edit mailman page, can you please advice where i can found template for example for this page: http://mail.python.org/mailman/confirm/mailman-users reviewing /template/en/ gives no result : ( thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] config_list does not finish
by Mark Sapiro March 25, 2007

March 25, 2007

Michael McAndrew wrote: > >Thanks a lot, > >The triple string quotes didn't appear in the config file - they were in the >email only to show the start and end of the quoted config file: confusing in >retrospect. Yes, I was confused. >When I looked this morning, the lists were working again,and (thanks to the >reply) I now know why this was - The lists were locked and hadn't been >unlocked afterwards. One problem for me was that I didn't know if lists are >initially locked or unlocked, and consequently didn't know whether to leave >them locked or unlocked at the end. I've put a fuller explanation below in >case it helps someone in a similar position to me. > >I have a script I run every half hour that adjusts moderation bits on some >lists. I was running the script with the -l (lock) option but not calling >the method m.Save() before it finished (the m.Save() method unlocks the >list,I presume) which meant the list wasn't automatically unlocked. I >presume mailman noticed and was able to deal with this most of the time, but >not always, which is why it hung sometimes. No. The Save() method only saves the updated list. It doesn't unlock it. A list is unlocked by calling the Unlock() method. If you are only processing one list with withlist, withlist will unlock the list when the script exits, but if you are processing multiple lists with something like /path/to/bin/withlist -l -a -r callable withlist will only unlock the last list processed and you will be left with locked lists unless you specifically unlock them within the callable function. If you specify both -l and -a to withlist, you must explicitly Unlock() the list whether or not you Save() it first or you will be left with locked lists. An appropriate callable.py for this scenario contains def callable(mlist, ...): if not mlist.Locked(): mlist.Lock() (process here) mlist.Save() mlist.Unlock() This works whether or not the -l option is given to withlist. It also works if callable exits because of an exception in its process because withlist sets sys.exitfunc to its own function which unlocks the list if locked. >Actually, I feel like this was the last hurdle in a long process of >integrating mailman with another open source php based CMS that I a have >also customised a bit. It's been a steep and mostly enjoyable learning >curve, and though it might be standard for someone with a history in open >source, for me it was pretty great to be able to do all this, and the >support was really great - Cool - thanks a lot, > >Michael -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Let me try this again ;-)
by Dave Foran March 25, 2007

March 25, 2007

Folks Is there an option to have mailman ignore anonymous posts and not even acknowledge the post. Just let it go to /dev/null ?? I have looked and see nothing in simple english.. Right now, I am seriously blacklisted by the anonymous posts being sent by spammers and mailman trying to send back a message "your post is not allowed" Maybe I just need to rename them ?? This is getting to the point of "The Spammers win, I loose" Thanks Dave --- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Foran Internet ONLY:dave@hamnet.org Cruise Missile Coordinates 41.36.46N 81.25.53W ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Problem with format=flowed patch
by Mark Sapiro March 24, 2007

March 24, 2007

I have been working on a fix for the problem of Mailman's dropping format=flowed from Content-Type: headers. There is a bug report and a patch at <https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1495122&group_…>. The patch to Scrubber.py has just been revised (revised patch is attached to the above tracker item). Scrubber would throw an exception when processing a message with no text/plain part. If you are using a prior version of this patch, please get the current version to avoid this problem. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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how i begin?
by orlando achury March 24, 2007

March 24, 2007

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an alternative smtp server?
by Zbigniew Szalbot March 24, 2007

March 24, 2007

Hello, I have two machines on my LAN both with the same domain name. Mailman is installed on machine A but for actual SMTP mailman work I would like to use machine B (as machine A is a bit stressed with other tasks). I cannot use the domain entered in the general settings for a list (because smtp servers on both machines have the same domian). Is it possible to specify a LAN address of machine B so that mailman uses this machine for all of its operations? Bounces and all other requests would come to machine A anyway as this is defined at the router level. Thank you very much in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot

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