Mailman 3 April 2007 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman scripts running with wrong group
by No One April 6, 2007

April 6, 2007

Sorry, I did not realize that I was not replying to the group. It is this stupid browser based mail reader I have to use. The reply all apparently doesn't work. The problem is my ISP, for some reason, cannot send anything from me to mail.python.org. After 3 days I get a bounced mail telling me the server is not responding. I wrote to the admins (fortuantely one had a non-python address) and they checked the log and found all kinds of mail coming through from other users with the same ISP. They … [View More]suggested it was my ISP. Probably is but my ISP says everything is fine (I bet they didn't even check). Anyway, I can't use my normal address or my normal reader. Again I am sorry and just didn't realize it was not working. Welcome to my world of frustration. I even wind up getting those trying to help me PO'ed. Now for the good news. I got it working. It apparenlty was a corrupt postfix rpm. In a frustrated desperate attempt to do SOMETHING, I uninstalled postscript and then reinstalled it. As bizzare as it may sound, that fixed the problem. The only difference is that rather then installing it from CD, I installed it from one of the Mandriva mirrors. Partly my fault, I should have suspected something like this sooner. This is the 2nd rmp on that CD that proved to be problematic. They are in the trash now. Thanks again for your help, especially narrowing it down to postfix. Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> wrote: A large part of my frustration is the fact that not once have you copied the list in any of your replies. This says to me that you don't want help from the community, just from me. >However, I did read and comprehend the FAQ. Let me restate that this is Mandriva which is apparently different then the version you are using. And let me restate that I just referred you to the FAQ for an understanding of the problem, not for a solution. And, of course Mandravia is different which is why the first two paragraphs of say This mailing list is for site administrators, list administrators, list moderators, and other parties interested in the operations and maintenance of the Mailman mailing list management system, as provided for download via the resources shown at http://www.list.org/download.html. There is a separate mailing list for people interested in discussion about development of the system - mailman-developers. Unofficially, we will try to provide what support we can for versions of Mailman that come from other sources (e.g., vendor-provided binary packages, vendor-provided pre-installed software, etc...), but there will be a limit to the level of support that we can provide for versions of Mailman other than those which were built directly from code downloaded directly from the resources shown at http://www.list.org/download.html. >1. The paths used are not per mailman documentation (this is one of the many things that frustrates me about Mandriva). It took a while to figure out that the mailman installation directory is seperate from the data directory but I accomplished that before starting this thread: > /usr/lib/mailman - install > /var/lib/mailman - data > >2. The aliases files in /var/lib/mailman/data are and always have had a group of 'mailman'. Changing the user and group to 'mail', instead of 'mailman' didn't help nor had I really expected it to. Remember, the error message said the group used was 'nogroup'. No files associated with mailman anywhere have that group. Are these files the only place where your Mailman aliases appear? If so, and if the user:group of these (aliases and aliases.db) files are mail:mail and yet Postfix is still executing the wrapper as group 'nogroup', then there is something about your Postfix or its configuration that is different from most others who've had this problem. >3. That postfix executes the pipe based on the group of the aliases file is very peculiar to me. I am not aware of anything in postfix that would do that nor is there anything in the documentation to indicate that. Of the various Unix flavors I've worked with this is the first I heard that and it seems that at least with Mandriva, OS X, HPUX, AIX and Unicos that is not the case. However, this is clearly not the problem because 'nogroup' is not associated with either postfix or mailman files. So where does 'nogroup' come from? Is the 'mail' group a registered group? Another user has recently posted in this thread at that the user:group under which the pipe is run are determined by the ownership of the aliases.db file. There are other archived posts that confirm this is true. I don't use Postfix, nor do I know much about it, so I can't confirm this from personal experience, nor have I been able to find it in Postfix documentation either, but in every case I've seen on this list that has followed through to resolution, that has been the case. >Unforutnately I cannot find anyone that seems to be running mailman on Mandriva, or at least anyone running it that will at reply on the Mandriva forums. This was the whole purpose of this thread. I don't have a clue where that group is coming from and it is becoming painfully obvious, to me anyway, that this is not really a mailman problem. You could just download the source and configure and install it. It would probably be a lot less work than trying to make this rpm work. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! 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Temporarily rejecting all attempts to post
by Andre Majorel April 6, 2007

April 6, 2007

Looking for something similar to emergency moderation but where attempts to post are rejected as opposed to forewarded for moderation. If you attempt to post, you get a bounce saying that posting is temporarily disabled on this list. This happens automatically, without anyone having to do anything. Since there's this TODO, I suppose not but I thought I'd ask : | - Allow a list to be marked `disabled' so things like the replybot | still works, and the archives are still available, but mail | … [View More]

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Unsubscriber problem
by python python April 6, 2007

April 6, 2007

Hi I have mailman 2.1.8. along with postfix. Everything is fine. now from few days i watching few of my sunscriber from list automatic get unsubscribe, without knowing anyone. Could you tel me the causes ??? On membership list i am finding B option in nomail reason??? whats this??? __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Language encoding and digests...
by Krystal F. Zipfel April 6, 2007

April 6, 2007

Random question, and unfortunately I'm having trouble finding answers since most of the things I have found aren't in my language... Has anyone here ever attempted to use EUC-JP encoding along with digests? I recently ran into an issue with a list whom was using Japanese as they're language, and the digest mbox file actually caused any other list on that server to not receive digests and I have absolutely no clue why or how. Just a thought, Krystal

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Mailman scripts running with wrong group
by No One April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

I have mailman up an running but message are bouncing because of a complaint about the group that the scripts are running as. Here is the error: Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=… [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman scripts running with wrong group
by Mark Sapiro April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

No One wrote: > >Thanks but that link doesn't help. I installed using an rpm binary so there is/was no configure script. I referred you to FAQ article 6.16 to help you understand the source of the error and the reason for it. Not because I thought it would give you a cookbook solution. >On the other hand this is beginning to look like a Mandriva problem. The 'mailman' script has a group of 'mail' and the set gid bit is on so it should be running as mail. As far as the packager is … [View More]

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Permanent subscription ban?
by Jim Garrison April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

Is there a way to tell Mailman to never allow a specific email address to be subscribed? I.e. is there a master "banned email address" list within Mailman, and if so how to I add addresses to it?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Size Limits of Files?
by Patrick Bogen April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

On 4/5/07, Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org> wrote: > At 3:24 PM -0400 4/4/07, Justin Denick wrote: > > > I had a user complain that she could not send mail, reply, or check Sent > > Mail. > > She would click on "Sent" and after awhile it would just download a file > > called right_main.php. > > I'm pretty sure that Mailman doesn't use PHP -- It's Python, instead. > So, whatever is going on here, I don't think it has anything to do > … [View More]

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Size Limits of Files?
by Justin Denick April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

I had a user complain that she could not send mail, reply, or check Sent Mail. She would click on "Sent" and after awhile it would just download a file called right_main.php. After some checking I found that the file was pretty large 193MB, though there were other files that were larger, but still accessible. My 'fix' or hack, whatever you will call it, was to split the file into three sets (2005, 2006, 2007), using the same MAILMAN header for each file. I then subscribed to these new '… [View More]

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Infamous error "ImportError: ld.so.1: python: fatal: libgcc_s.so.1"
by Rolf E. Sonneveld April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

Hi, I installed tcl/tk, Python and Mailman on a Solaris 10 system. Everything seems to install fine, I can use the command line interface to create a mailman list, set the site and delegate password etc. However, when I try to access Mailman via my browser (using Apache on the server side) I get the infamous error message: [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] Traceback (most recent call last): [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] File "/usr/… [View More]local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 77, in run_main [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 18, in <module> [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] import time [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] ImportError: ld.so.1: python: fatal: libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory The Solaris 10 system info: SunOS hostname 5.10 Generic_118833-24 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraAX-i2 Versions installed: tcl/tk: 8.4.14 Python: 2.5 Mailman: 2.1.9 All software was compiled from sources. The libgcc_s.so.1 lives in: bash-3.00# find / -name libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/sfw/lib/sparcv9/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/sfw/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/local/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 /usr/local/lib/sparcv9/libgcc_s.so.1 The /usr/local/lib version seems to be more recent. Before installation, I made sure that LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set to /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/share/lib and I compiled using LDFLAGS="-L/usr/local/lib". I also added this directory to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apache in the file: /usr/local/apache/bin/envvars: LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/apache/lib:/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" export LD_LIBRARY_PATH Stopped and started apache, to make sure it would get the right environment variables. As 'python' was present in the error message, I did an ldd of python. It shows: bash-3.00# ldd /usr/local/python/bin/python libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 libsocket.so.1 => /lib/libsocket.so.1 libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 libm.so.2 => /lib/libm.so.2 libc.so.1 => /lib/libc.so.1 libmp.so.2 => /lib/libmp.so.2 libmd5.so.1 => /lib/libmd5.so.1 libscf.so.1 => /lib/libscf.so.1 libaio.so.1 => /lib/libaio.so.1 libdoor.so.1 => /lib/libdoor.so.1 libuutil.so.1 => /lib/libuutil.so.1 /platform/SUNW,UltraAX-i2/lib/libc_psr.so.1 /platform/SUNW,UltraAX-i2/lib/libmd5_psr.so.1 When I visit the page http://hostname/mailman/admin I get: <quote> Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. </quote> The traceback information can be found from the Apache log file and the complete log shows: [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [----- Traceback ------] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] Traceback (most recent call last): [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 77, in run_main [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 18, in <module> [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] import time [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] ImportError: ld.so.1: python: fatal: libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [----- Python Information -----] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sys.version = [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] 2.5 (r25:51908, Apr 2 2007, 10:26:44) [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [GCC 3.4.6] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sys.executable = [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] /usr/local/python/bin/python [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sys.prefix = [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] /usr/local/python [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sys.exec_prefix = [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] /usr/local/python [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sys.path = [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] /usr/local/python [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sys.platform = [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] sunos5 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [----- Environment Variables -----] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (Unix) [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_SIGNATURE: [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tREQUEST_METHOD: GET [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tQUERY_STRING: [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tTZ: MET [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_NAME: hostname.domain.com [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tREMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.10.10 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_PORT: 80 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_ADDR: 192.168.10.20 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tDOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/local/apache/htdocs [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tPYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tSERVER_ADMIN: unix_operations(a)domain.com [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_HOST: hostname.domain.com [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tREQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_ACCEPT: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tGATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tREMOTE_PORT: 4655 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: nl,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3 [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] \tHTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate [Mon Apr 02 11:07:06 2007] [error] [client 192.168.10.10] Any help greatly appreciated! /rolf [View Less]

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