Mailman 3 May 2007 - Mailman-Users

Never mind: Upgrading and changing machines
by Joshua J. Kugler 09 May '07

09 May '07

I saw the "small" FAQ on the mailman site, but didn't catch the link to the large FAQ. I shall post if I have any questions after reading that. Sorry for the noise. j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ID 0xDB26D7CE PO Box 80086 -- Fairbanks, AK 99708 -- Ph: 907-456-5581 Fax: 907-456-3111

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Upgrading and changing machines
by Joshua J. Kugler 09 May '07

09 May '07

I searched the archives, but only found this message: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-March/035371.html which had no reply. We're upgrading from 2.0.11-1woody1 to 2.1.5-9ubuntu4.1, and changing boxes in the process. I've read the docs, but haven't found anything about upgrading. Is there a documented procedure somewhere for upgrading? This page: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html the 'move_list' script, but there is no additional documentation about it, and it is nowhere to be found in the tab balls. It does, however, sound like something I might need. I assume I can copy over the directories in /var/lib/mailman/lists, but what must I do to the config.db to complete the upgrade? I'll need to change the host name, but there are other fields in there that look like they may need updating, but I'm not sure how, and I'd rather let an "official" script muck around with config.db. Any hints/tips? j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ID 0xDB26D7CE PO Box 80086 -- Fairbanks, AK 99708 -- Ph: 907-456-5581 Fax: 907-456-3111

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Random duplicate message to subscribers
by Jason LaMar 07 May '07

07 May '07

We have a fairly large list (more than 26,000 subscribers), and recently it appears a very small fraction of the subscribers have started receiving duplicate messages -- sometimes as many as a dozen or more. This behavior just started happening within the last couple of weeks, and it seems to only impact a minute and random subset of the subscribers. Anyone seen similar behavior or have suggestions on the most effective way to troubleshoot this? We're running version 2.1.5 on Red Hat Linux ES, and we've also had a few runaway Python processes in the last couple of months that forced us to restart the server. Perhaps this is all related and we just need to upgrade to 2.1.9. Anybody happen to have a pre-built RPM for RHEL 4 with the latest release? Jason _________________________ Jason LaMar Director of Information Services Ohio Wesleyan University | Delaware, OH 43015 IP Tel: 740-368-3131 | AIM/Yahoo IM: jasonrlamar Fax: 740-368-3272 | Web: http://www.owu.edu/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not Moderating a Moderator's Posting
by Barry Finkel 07 May '07

07 May '07

I wrote: >> Note that I cannot easily turn off the "moderated" bit on the >> moderators' e-mail addresses, as the list is rebuilt nightly from the >> HR Database. and Ralf Hildebrand replied: > How do you rebuild the list? > Do you use symc_members? Or do you remove everybody and add them later? > >I meant to say sync_members of course... > >We sync our lists like this: >bin/sync_members -w=no -g=no -d=no -a=no -f file_with_membership_addresses.txt name_of_list I use ./remove_members --all --nouserack --noadminack $destfile ./add_members -w n -r $destdir/$destfile because I did not know about sync_members when I wrote my script. The posting in the archives I was reviewing did not mention sync_members. I have a complication, with which I have to contend - besides the dynamic list XXX built from the HR Database, I can have a static file XXXstatic, which contains other subscribers that are not in the HR Database. My script processes this XXXstatic file when it processes the XXX file. To use sync_members I will have to combine the XXX and XXXstatic files, and then use the combined file with sync_members. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Temporarily Diable Entire List
by Robin Bartholomew 07 May '07

07 May '07

I want to make sure some lists are definitely not used before deleting them. To temporarily disable a list, is moving the list directory (/home/mailman/lists/list_name) to a temporary directory an acceptable solution or is there a better way to go about this? Thanks you, -- Robin D. Bartholomew McClatchy Interactive (919) 861-1243 AIM:rbartmi

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Not Moderating a Moderator's Posting
by Barry Finkel 07 May '07

07 May '07

I have a Mailman 2.1.9 list where the membership is re-built from an external source. The list contains all of the occupants of a certain building who list an e-mail address in the Human Resources Database. I assumed that anyone on the list should be able to post to the list, but the building IT administrator wanted all of the postings to be moderated. We accomplished this via default_member_moderation = 1 We added some moderator e-mail addresses via the administrative web page, and we set a moderator password. There is one minor problem: the moderators are set to those persons whom we want to be able to post to the list (e.g., the building manager). But those moderators are subscribed to the list, so when they post, their "moderation" flag is seen, and their postings are moderated. I assume that the code does not check to see that the post is coming from a moderator and thus does not have to be moderated. Is this a bug/design deficiency/characteristic that can be fixed in a future release? I did not see anything during a quick search of Mailman-developers archives. Note that I cannot easily turn off the "moderated" bit on the moderators' e-mail addresses, as the list is rebuilt nightly from the HR Database. P.S. I was once watching NASA TV during a shuttle mission, and one of the astronauts could not get a camera working. Houston told the astronaut to power-cycle the camera. That worked. The question arose whether that was a bug or a feature. A few minutes later Houston responded, "It is a characteristic". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Approve held msg by replying
by John Fleming 07 May '07

07 May '07

I can't find it in the FAQ or listname-request help dialogue, but I thought there's a way to approve held messages by replying to the notice that I have held messages? Tnx - John

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Lists stop working
by bjames＠cisco.com 07 May '07

07 May '07

Did you ever find a solution to this issue? I realize that this is a really old posting: I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2756]: h5A9R392002756: from=<Niklas.Nikitin at xxx <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> >, size=502, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<5.2.1.1.2.20030610112857.00b9b740 at xxx <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> >, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=cassini.xxx [193.10.220.37] Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2757]: h5A9R392002756: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post nicke-test", ctladdr=<nicke-test at xxx <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> > (8/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30704, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent that the server is receiving the eMail and is forwarding it to Mailman. But in Mailman's logs I will not find any information that it has received the eMail and no eMail is sent to the members on the list. If I dump all members of the list to a file, remove the list, create the list again and add all members, the list is working again for a while, and then it repeats again. but I've run into a very similar problem with two mailing lists that are managed using the current release of Mailman. The first symptom was that messages sent to the mailing lists were not distributed to the list, and did not show up in the list archive. After my ISP reinstalled Mailman, messages to the list started to show up in the list archive again. But the messages were still not distributed to members of the list. We found that if we add a new user, then a message to the list *is* delivered to that new user, but still not to any of the existing users. If the *new* user posts a message, that message appears in the list archive and the message is delivered to the entire mailing list. There doesn't seem to be a way to dump and reload the mailing list that preserves all per-list-member configuration options, so if possible, we'd like to avoid that workaround. Especially if it only works temporarily. Any insight / help / pointers appreciated. Beau

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Problems, virtual-mailman not created
by Beech Rintoul 06 May '07

06 May '07

I just installed Mailman for the first time and virtual-mailman is not being created. I'm using postfix and have the following in mm_cf.py: MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/local/sbin/postmap' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain1.org', 'domain2.com'] Running "genaliases" created the aliases db, but there is no virtual_mailman or db. The virtual domains work and receive mail. What do I do next? Trying to create a new list in those domains resulted in not found errors. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech(a)alaskaparadise.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 13
by rayan jo rachwan 05 May '07

05 May '07

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