Mailman 3 May 2007 - Mailman-Users

Fwd: Too many moderator requests
by Patrick Bogen 17 May '07

17 May '07

Forgot to 'Reply To All'. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Patrick Bogen <pdbogen(a)gmail.com> Date: May 17, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many moderator requests To: Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey <paul(a)fpen.org> On 5/17/07, Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey <paul(a)fpen.org> wrote: > I have a moderator who has not dealt with moderator requests for so > long that the web page to manage them times out when it attempts to > load. We wish do delete all the pending messages. How do I proceed? See FAQ 4.74 <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.074.htp> -- - Patrick Bogen -- - Patrick Bogen

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detecting administrivia requests in "bounces"
by James Dinkel 17 May '07

17 May '07

For some reason, my users like to send emails to listname-bounces(a)listserver.com. I guess maybe because that is what is in the From: address on emails they recieve. Anyway, they will be emails with a single request in them like "help" or "subscribe" but they dome to me because the bounce filter couldn't filter them out. Is there anyway to have these checked for Administrivia?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help
by Brad Knowles 17 May '07

17 May '07

On 5/17/07, Brian Carpenter wrote: > My installation of mailman is on a Linux box running cPanel/WHM. The os is > CentOS 4.4. That's the kind of information we would have needed to know before we would be able to help you. See FAQ 6.11, as well as FAQs 1.22 and 1.23. > It is not an apple machine. Part of the process you showed was referencing a ".DS_Store" file. See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.DS_Store>, but clearly a Mac OS X box somehow got involved in your process. I don't know how that is, but it's clearly there. > It seems to me that the patch is > looking for a Defaults.py.in file, which I don't have. I could be wrong > however in interpreting the error message. I'd have to check, but the patch you downloaded may be intended to be applied to a pre-installed source-only version of Mailman, as you would have downloaded from one of our sites. I have no idea how it would be applied to a cPanel installation. Again, see FAQ 6.11. -- Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org>, Consultant & Author LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> Slides from Invited Talks: <http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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problems with anonymous list
by Instituto de Ingenieria Área de Sistemas Unix/Linux 17 May '07

17 May '07

hello list I configured an anonymous list, it works well but hotmail classifies all the messages from the list as spam. There is no problem when i set anonymous lisy option to no It's really important for the list to be anonymous. So i would welcome any suggestion Thank you very much -- Instituto de Ingeniería de la UNAM Coordinación de Sistemas de Cómputo Área de Sistemas Unix/Linux

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neither receiving or sending
by Michael Rainey 17 May '07

17 May '07

mm_cfg.py IS still there and is correct. Sorry...long day. Michael Rainey __________________________ After months of successful use of Mailman 2.1.5 for several lists, my hosting company "accidentally" unistalled Mailman. The have since "reinstalled" it, and it looks like all necessary files in var are there etc. However no messages are apparently received (a moderated list---never shows a pending moderator request), nor sent (no notifications to administrator or mail delivered to recipients It is a virtual host and the "add_virtual host ('www.mydomain.ext') was originally set up correctly but since it has been some time, and I, as a rank beginner cannot now locate mm_cfg.py (default /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py) that should exist to check that it is still intact. Or if 'root /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py' is the correct path then mailman/Mailman no longer is there. I did run 'newaliases' but no difference. My hosting company has offered to back everything up and completely reinstall, but I don't have much faith in them at this point and have asked them not to do anything until I can identify probable issues. I guess as a minimum I would like to back up the (not public) list before I let them proceed. Thank you, MIchael Rainey

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces of invalid emails don't go to owner?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 May '07

17 May '07

So there's no easy way to prune a large list of bad addresses... :-( > Mailman attempts to process bounces on its own. Even with that setting > set to yes, you will only ever see the actual bounces when Mailman > cannot detect them. > > Unless someone like Mark has a brilliant way of viewing these, you can't. >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces of invalid emails don't go to owner?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 May '07

17 May '07

Thanks. I have all those settings to "Yes", isn't that the way it should be? The first setting is about bounce messages that failed to be detected... but what about regular bounces that are properly detected? Ricardo > Hello, > > Go onto the "Bounce Processing" page on your Administration page. Scroll > to the bottom of the options. The last three are: > > Should Mailman send you, the list owner, any bounce messages that failed > to be detected by the bounce processor? /Yes/ is recommended. > (Details for *bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner*) > <http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/admin/myrna-speak/?VARHELP=bounce/bounce_u…> > > No Yes > > Should Mailman notify you, the list owner, when bounces cause a member's > subscription to be disabled? > (Details for *bounce_notify_owner_on_disable*) > <http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/admin/myrna-speak/?VARHELP=bounce/bounce_n…> > > No Yes > > Should Mailman notify you, the list owner, when bounces cause a member to > be unsubscribed? > (Details for *bounce_notify_owner_on_removal*) > <http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/admin/myrna-speak/?VARHELP=bounce/bounce_n…> > > No Yes > > > > This is where you can set what messages are sent to you via the bounce > system. >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for professional help
by Brad Knowles 17 May '07

17 May '07

On 5/16/07, Brian Carpenter wrote: > Apparently finding help, even paid help is another thing. Well, in a sense you're getting what you're paying for. I know you asked for paid consulting on this sort of thing, but I don't have the time to do that, and so far as I know, neither do any of the other principal people involved in developing or supporting Mailman. I pointed you at the FAQ entry where we have the latest information that I know of on this subject. If you're unable or unwilling to find help through those resources, I don't know that we're going to be able to do that much more for you. If so, then it will most definitely be on an when-available basis. > I am trying to apply the htdig-2.1.9-0.1.patch to an already setup mailman > installation. I am running blind here guys. Can someone give a hand beside a > RTM or RTF answer? You didn't tell us anything about your installation. From your error messages, I would guess that you're trying to apply this on a machine running Mac OS X. Is this Mac OS X Server? If so, are you trying to apply to the Apple-provided version of Mailman on Mac OS X Server? If so, have you read the FAQ entry on that subject? I think you're asking a lot of us, without providing us much useful information in the way of what platform you're working on, what software is already installed and where, etc.... We're not mind-readers. If you want us to be able to help, you need to provide some minimal baseline information. -- Brad Knowles <brad(a)shub-internet.org>, Consultant & Author LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> Slides from Invited Talks: <http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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modifying admin page - create new lists
by Christopher Adams 17 May '07

17 May '07

I would like to remove the reference to creating new lists that is included in the admin page. I have looked in the Templates folder and in the Mailman folder, but haven't been able to find where that is included. -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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moderation bit off on explicitly selected users
by Tomas Macek 17 May '07

17 May '07

Hi, we are using mailman 2.1.5 with Postfix. On our announce-only list we have subscribed all of our employees. This list is fully moderated, so when someone posts, the message waits for approving. That's fine. Now I need to have some users (3 mail addresses) of the subscribes, that can post to the list without moderation and waiting for approving from the moderator. Where can I specify these adresses? I do not use the mailman's web interface. According to the posts I have found on google, this should be done by modifying the moderation bit on each user, but I cannot find where it could be done in the config file? The config file is the one obtained from the ./config_list -o list.conf MyList. When I specify this in owner = ['adr1(a)ourdomain.cz', 'adr2(a)ourdomain.cz', 'adr3(a)ourdomain.cz'] moderator = ['adr1(a)ourdomain.cz', 'adr2(a)ourdomain.cz', 'adr3(a)ourdomain.cz'] it does not help, the message from adr1(a)ourdomain.cz waits for approving. I set up this further settings: default_member_moderation = True member_moderation_action = 0 generic_nonmember_action = 3 I tried to setup the config like here http://www.modwest.com/help/kb13-195.html, but I think this is the case I have now - any message that came to the list is moderated, without exceptions. But I want these exceptions - some people can post without moderation. Can anyone help me? If you want to know any other options I have in the config, let me know please. Many thanks, Tomas

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