Mailman 3 June 2007 - Mailman-Users

mail from GioMBG > fresh installation of mailman but Internal Server Error (only on edit some users) remain!
by Gio MBG Canepa root 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Hi Mark! ---| Here the apache error Log: |--- [Tue Jun 26 17:03:00 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] ModSecurity: Access denied with code 500 (phase 1). Pattern match "\\\\.(?:c(?:o(?:nf(?:ig)?|m)| s(?:proj|r)?|dx|er|fg|md)|p(?:rinter|ass|db|ol|wd)|v(?:b(?:proj|s)?|sdisco)| a(?:s(?:ax?|cx)|xd)|s(?:html?|ql|tm|ys)|d(?:bf?|at|ll|os)|i(?:d[acq]|n[ci])| ba(?:[kt]|ckup)|res(?:ources|x)|l(?:icx|nk|og)|\\\\w{,5}~|webinfo|ht[rw]| xs ..." at REQUEST_BASENAME. [id "960035"] [msg "URL file extension is restricted by policy"] [severity "CRITICAL"] [hostname "home.9records.com"] [uri "/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com"] [unique_id "bOj5IH8AAAEAAA6QRT4AAAAB"] ---| end httpd error log |--- These logs are generated in /var/log/httpd/error_log by trying access here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.c… PLUS I can write that I've removed all mailman and after I have reinstalled but... I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM! Very strangerous! i have succesfull added the users and (for example) like in the old mailman installation If I go here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alkemy--at--mbg.it I can edit the user alkemy AT mbg.it but if I go here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.c… I receive an INTERNAL SERVER ERROR! See on the start of this message to see the httpd error_log is possible that depend from cgi? if yes what I can control? waht I can do? many Thanks GioMBG Gio MBG Canepa root wrote: I have a strange error only when I attempt to modify some configurations on some mailman users... I can explane better: If I go here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alkemy--at--mbg.it I can edit the user alkemy AT mbg.it but if I go here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.c… I receive an INTERNAL SERVER ERROR! NB] The alkexkenji user esist and is active like the first user alkemy! I have this error when I click on the link of the user and at the same the user have the same kind of error when attemp to modify Yours mailman configuration by self... >There is some corrupt data or other problem associated with the >alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com user. I still think this is correct, but >There will be detailed error information in Mailman's 'error' log for >these errors. This is the information we need to diagnose this problem. I misunderstood the error (I was thinking it was Mailman's 'we hit a bug' message, but it's not). There may or may not be anything in Mailman's error log about this. I still think it's likely, but not guaranteed. There will also probably be something in the apache error_log. It may or may not be more informative than "premature end of script headers". -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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archRunner hogging CPU
by Anne Ramey 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

It appears my archive runner is flipping out today. It is hogging the CPU and can't seem to keep up with the messages. I restarted mailman and it doesn't seem to have helped. It doesn't appear as if we are seeing any unusual traffic, so I can't think of what would cause this. It isn't completely stuck...it's processing messages, just really slowly and taking lots of CPU to do it. We are using Exim version 4.43 on RHEL 4 and mailman version 2.1.9rc1. Ideas? top - 15:15:49 up 152 days, 16:33, 5 users, load average: 1.25, 1.45, 1.49 Tasks: 153 total, 2 running, 150 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 25.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 72.6% id, 2.2% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 4086484k total, 1987572k used, 2098912k free, 515092k buffers Swap: 2048276k total, 144k used, 2048132k free, 512688k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 13486 mailman 25 0 233m 227m 2412 R 99.9 5.7 40:38.48 python 281 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 79:02.77 kjournald 13921 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:20.23 pdflush 13482 mailman 16 0 15328 9716 2372 S 0.3 0.2 0:06.15 python mailman 28270 1 0 Jun19 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/mailmanctl start mailman 13479 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13480 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13481 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13482 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13483 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13484 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13485 28270 0 14:34 ? 00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13486 28270 98 14:34 ? 00:42:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s Anne

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ACK Column...
by Jeff Shepherd 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello, I was curious as to what the column "ack" was for under the Membership Management section. I've checked the Administrator Manual, but that section is empty, along with several other sections. What does that field mean and what's the difference between checked and unchecked users? Thanks for the help! -Jeff

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Max_Message_Size Question
by thezachflower 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

I'm administering a mailing list and the users require a max message size of over 15MB. Setting the value to 0 is really the same as setting it to 3MB, which does not work as every attachment sent is at least 7MB. I've also tried to set the value to 15MB on the web config and it still sets the max size as 3MB. This is extremely important for this mailing list to be useful at all, does anybody have any suggestions as to how I can fix this? Thanks, Zachary Flower -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Max_Message_Size-Question-tf3970162.html#a11269104 Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] announcements only: setting?
by Mark Sapiro 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

Mark Sapiro wrote: >So what happens to the message you try to post? Is it held for some >reason? Do you get anything back? Chuck Puckett wrote: >I wonder if it's ever reaching mailman. The error message in the bounced >message is > >Reporting-MTA: dns;bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com >Received-From-MTA: dns;hotmail.com >Arrival-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:01:50 -0700 > >Final-Recipient: rfc822;announcements(a)lists.puckettpublishing.com >Action: failed >Status: 5.5.0 >Diagnostic-Code: smtp;553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed >rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Yes, it isn't reaching Mailman. It appears to be a hotmail issue. It looks like hotmail won't deliver to the lists.puckettpublishing.com domain. I don't know why. There doesn't appear to be an MX DNS record for lists.puckettpublishing.com, but there is an A record so that should be OK. >I have a support request into my web host (www.hiwaay.net). It may help if they add an MX record to DNS for lists.puckettpublishing.com, but this may be something you have to pursue with hotmail. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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mailman installation with DMZ
by Nick Airey 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

Hi Everyone, I would like some advice on the best way to set up a mailman installation in the presence of a DMZ, ie. I have a webserver in the DMZ which is accessible to the public. The MTA, however, is in the safe zone. The public needs access to the mailman web interface, implying that this should be run from the webserver in the DMZ. However the MTA in the safe zone needs to make a pipe connection to mailman, which (I assume) in turn needs access to the disk partition where the mailman files are stored. Hence mailman needs to be co-located with the MTA. As a quick fix: (a) I setup mailman and its web interface completely in the safe zone, and set the webserver in the DMZ to proxy URI "/mailman/*", to the internal webserver. This works, but I'm not sure if this is the ideal solution. I'm also not crazy about parts of an internal webserver being accessible to the internet. Other possibilities I considered were: (b) split the mailman installation, run the web part in the DMZ, accessing an NFS mounted disk on an internal machine. The MTA part of mailman running in the safe zone, can then access the same disk and process mail as normal. Worst case scenario, if the disk mount becomes unmounted (or otherwise unwritable), the web interface is unusable. However the MTA part (sending, receiving mails) still keeps working. (c) run mailman completely in the DMZ, and run a MTA on the DMZ, which can relay to the MTA in the safe zone for delivery. I don't really like this for a few reasons involving mail security and policy of running "minimalist" machines in the DMZ. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. I'm leaning towards switching to option (b), but I'm not sure exactly how to split the installation. I would also be willing to document this as a "best practice" for the mailman documentation. (I'm sure this question must come up all the time for fresh installations) Nick

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announcements only: setting?
by Chuck Puckett 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

I have a list I use for announcements only (no user posts). My provider just moved the list from one server to another, and did so by copying the list membership. Unfortunately, the new list just had default settings, and my list members all started getting lots of emails as replies were sent out to everybody, etc. [Even caused some unsubscribing, as members suddenly thought they were going to be flooded by emails]. I changed list_post_header to NO, and that stopped the rampant replies, etc. Also, the copier forgot to set me as mod on my entry in the list, so my apology emailed got bounced. I set my mod bit on, and resent the apology, but it doesn't seem to have gone out. At least neither I nor my wife received it. What exactly are the settings to make a list "announcements-only" and to make sure I can still post? Thanks Chuck Puckett, Esq., BS, ~MS, ThD <blocked::http://www.puckettpublishing.com> www.puckettpublishing.com "The unexamined life is not worth living." (Socrates) "The unexamined faith is not worth believing." (Chuck) "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of the mind." (Arabian proverb) "I don't want to steal the show... I only want to borrow it for a while." (Chuck)

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Message failures
by Daniel D Jones 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

I'm having an issue with Mailman being unable to send messages through qmail. I'm not sure which one has the problem, so I'm sending to both lists. As soon as I figure out which program is at fault, I'll remove the other list from any replies. I'm running a Debian server with Mailman and qmail. We recent had a brief power outage. I shut the server down, then rebooted. When it came back up, I'd stopped receiving mail. I troubleshot and found out that something I'd installed on the server had evidently installed qpopper as a dependency. It was binding to port 110 before qmail's pop3d, so pop3d obviously wasn't working. I uninstalled qpopper and thought that I had everything fixed. However, either mailman is not working correctly or qmail isn't allowing mailman to work. Messages are coming into the list. I receive the messages in my mailbox, located on the same server. (Both my address and the list address are @riddlemaster.org addresses.) However, none of the other list members are receiving mail. Checking the mailman/post logs, I see a great deal of this: Jun 22 17:42:59 2007 (2503) post to listname from rvh40(a)xxxxx.com, size=3715, message-id=<6019BB4F-A03B-4CD3-93BF-1B58FD917B49(a)xxxxx.com>, 16 failures Jun 22 20:22:59 2007 (2503) post to listname from rex(a)yyyyy.com, size=1920, message-id=<20070623002827.GI4853(a)yyyyy.com>, 16 failures Jun 22 21:15:55 2007 (13367) post to listname from ddjones(a)riddlemaster.org, size=1481, message-id=<200706222124.18534.ddjones(a)riddlemaster.org>, 16 failures (List members email addresses obscured.) There are 17 addresses subbed to the list, including mine. So it appears that my email address is succeeding but all of the rest are failing. I don't find any errors or related entries in any of the qmail logs. I can email members of the list directly, using qmail on the same server that hosts mailman. So mail is flowing through the system, both in and out. For some reason, however, it appears that mailman can't send messages outside my domain. Any hints or suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue would be greatly appreciated.

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Mail from GioMBG > When I attempt to edit some user configuration I receive Internal Server Error (very strangerous! only on same user!)
by Gio MBG Canepa root 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

I All Mailman Staff! I have a strange error only when I attempt to modify some configurations on some mailman users... I can explane better: If I go here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alkemy--at--mbg.it I can edit the user alkemy AT mbg.it but if I go here: http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.c… I receive an INTERNAL SERVER ERROR! NB] The alkexkenji user esist and is active like the first user alkemy! I have this error when I click on the link of the user and at the same the user have the same kind of error when attemp to modify Yours mailman configuration by self... Any suggestions? MANY Thanks! GioMBG -- Giò "MBG" Canepa - E Mail: mbg a mbg.it Phone & Fax +39 0541 985 737 - Mobile +39 393 33 567 07 http://www.mbg.it | http://www.9Records.com Snail mail P.O. Box 59 / 47838 Riccione Italy

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Configuration
by Dragon 22 Jun '07

22 Jun '07

David Epstein wrote: >I have been trying to get mailman to work on my box but unfortunately it >refuses to work properly. While users can subscribe, when they send >mail to the posting email address, they don't receive confirmation of >the posting and the email isn't posted or sent to an administrator for >confirmation. I'm probably missing or not understanding some random >setting to get it to work properly. > > > >Any help would be appreciated! ---------------- End original message. --------------------- We are going to need more detail than that. Are the Qrunners running? (Do "ps aux | grep mailman" as root to find out) What is your MTA? Have you set up the aliases for the list(s) so your MTA knows how to route list traffic? What is in the mailman error, smtp and vette logs? Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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