Mailman 3 September 2007 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with /usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch --wipe
by Barry Finkel Sept. 4, 2007

Sept. 4, 2007

Some people say that it is bad netiquette to respond to one's own posting; those who agree can ignore this posting, if you want. I wrote earlier today: >I have converted a list from Majordomo to Mailman. I took the >collected Majordomo archives and built an mbox file. I used this >mbox file with > > /usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch --wipe $LISTNAME $LISTNAME.mbox > >Some of the old archives from 1995 are appearing in the September 2007 >list. Here is the header from … [View More]the first message in the Sep 2007 >archive: > >>From owner-women-in-science Wed May 3 11:57:56 1995 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA28996 for women-in-science-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:57:56 -0500 >Received: from dns2.anl.gov (dns2.anl.gov [130.202.20.3]) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA28990 for <women-in-science(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov>; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:57:54 -0500 >Received: from ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV (anlvm.ctd.anl.gov [146.137.96.2]) by dns2.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA12146 for <women-in-science(a)anl.GOV>; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:57:53 -0500 >Message-Id: <199505031657.LAA12146(a)dns2.anl.gov> >Received: from ANLVM by ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2ANL-MX) with BSMTP id 5404; Wed, 03 May 95 11:57:40 CDT >Received: from ANLCMB.BITNET (xxxxx) by ANLVM (Mailer R2.07B) with BSMTP id 1479; Wed, 03 May 95 11:57:39 CDT >Date: 3-MAY-1995 11:33:41.02 >From: <xxxxx%ANLCMB(a)ANLVM.ctd.anl.gov> >To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov"@dns2.anl.gov >X-ANJE-To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov" >Subject: May 5 First Friday Forum >Sender: Women-in-Science-Owner(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov >Precedence: bulk > > >and here are the headers from the last of the 35 messages in that >archive: > >>From owner-women-in-science Thu Apr 13 15:04:21 1995 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA16016 for women-in-science-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:04:21 -0500 >Received: from anl.gov (dns2.anl.gov [130.202.20.3]) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA16010 for <women-in-science(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov>; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:04:19 -0500 >Received: from ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV by anl.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA21398; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:04:17 CDT >Message-Id: <9504132004.AA21398(a)anl.gov> >Received: from ANLVM by ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2ANL-MX) with BSMTP id 2878; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:04:09 CDT >Received: from ANLCMB.BITNET (xxxxx) by ANLVM (Mailer R2.07B) with BSMTP id 8608; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:04:09 CDT >Date: 13-APR-1995 14:58:06.26 >From: <xxxxx%ANLCMB(a)ANLVM.ctd.anl.gov> >To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov"@ANLVM.ctd.anl.gov >X-Anje-To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov" >Subject: Science Demonstrations at Child Development Center >Sender: Women-in-Science-Owner(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov >Precedence: bulk > >These message were from 1995, when we were connected to BITNET. >What in Mailman 2.1.9 is causing these messages to be archived in the >wrong month? I have not had time to look at any python code. Could >it be the hyphens in the date: > > Date: 13-APR-1995 14:58:06.26 > >Thanks. > >I have converted many lists from Majordomo to Mailman using the same >procedure, and, while I have not looked at the newly-built Mailman >list archives in detail, I have not seen this problem before. After looking at the messages in question, looking at the code, looking at the mail RFC 2822, and doing a Google search, I found the messages that had two problems with the "Date:" line: Date: 13-APR-1995 14:58:06.26 This line has "-" instead of white space, and the seconds field has added hundredths of a second. Once I went through the mbox file and corrected these, the mbox file was loaded into the archives successfully. I had first converted the "-" to " ", but that did not solve the problem. I had to remove the ".nn" hundredths of a second to get the date to correspond to the RFC 2822 format. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 [View Less]

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Problem with /usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch --wipe
by Barry Finkel Sept. 4, 2007

Sept. 4, 2007

I have converted a list from Majordomo to Mailman. I took the collected Majordomo archives and built an mbox file. I used this mbox file with /usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch --wipe $LISTNAME $LISTNAME.mbox Some of the old archives from 1995 are appearing in the September 2007 list. Here is the header from the first message in the Sep 2007 archive: >From owner-women-in-science Wed May 3 11:57:56 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id … [View More]LAA28996 for women-in-science-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from dns2.anl.gov (dns2.anl.gov [130.202.20.3]) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA28990 for <women-in-science(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov>; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:57:54 -0500 Received: from ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV (anlvm.ctd.anl.gov [146.137.96.2]) by dns2.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA12146 for <women-in-science(a)anl.GOV>; Wed, 3 May 1995 11:57:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199505031657.LAA12146(a)dns2.anl.gov> Received: from ANLVM by ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2ANL-MX) with BSMTP id 5404; Wed, 03 May 95 11:57:40 CDT Received: from ANLCMB.BITNET (xxxxx) by ANLVM (Mailer R2.07B) with BSMTP id 1479; Wed, 03 May 95 11:57:39 CDT Date: 3-MAY-1995 11:33:41.02 From: <xxxxx%ANLCMB(a)ANLVM.ctd.anl.gov> To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov"@dns2.anl.gov X-ANJE-To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov" Subject: May 5 First Friday Forum Sender: Women-in-Science-Owner(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov Precedence: bulk and here are the headers from the last of the 35 messages in that archive: >From owner-women-in-science Thu Apr 13 15:04:21 1995 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA16016 for women-in-science-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:04:21 -0500 Received: from anl.gov (dns2.anl.gov [130.202.20.3]) by achilles.ctd.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA16010 for <women-in-science(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov>; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 15:04:19 -0500 Received: from ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV by anl.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21398; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:04:17 CDT Message-Id: <9504132004.AA21398(a)anl.gov> Received: from ANLVM by ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2ANL-MX) with BSMTP id 2878; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:04:09 CDT Received: from ANLCMB.BITNET (xxxxx) by ANLVM (Mailer R2.07B) with BSMTP id 8608; Thu, 13 Apr 95 15:04:09 CDT Date: 13-APR-1995 14:58:06.26 From: <xxxxx%ANLCMB(a)ANLVM.ctd.anl.gov> To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov"@ANLVM.ctd.anl.gov X-Anje-To: GATEWAY::"women-in-science(a)anl.gov" Subject: Science Demonstrations at Child Development Center Sender: Women-in-Science-Owner(a)achilles.ctd.anl.gov Precedence: bulk These message were from 1995, when we were connected to BITNET. What in Mailman 2.1.9 is causing these messages to be archived in the wrong month? I have not had time to look at any python code. Could it be the hyphens in the date: Date: 13-APR-1995 14:58:06.26 Thanks. I have converted many lists from Majordomo to Mailman using the same procedure, and, while I have not looked at the newly-built Mailman list archives in detail, I have not seen this problem before. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 [View Less]

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Another twist on Error: Unknown virtual host
by runner＠winning.com Sept. 4, 2007

Sept. 4, 2007

I'm getting the error "Error: Unknown virtual host lists.mydomain.org" when creating a list through the web interface. I have located several FAQs on this problem but I have a question on syntax when entering a new line in mm_cfg.py. Here's the background information: The CNAME for our list server is lists.mydomain.org but the actual servername is hamm.mydomain.org. All references to our list server should be using lists.mydomain.org both email and web URLs. We DO NOT use any URLs with www … [View More]

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web admin customisation
by Luke Daly Sept. 4, 2007

Sept. 4, 2007

Hi People Was wondering if I could have a look at a few examples of the web page admin after being modified and branded for an organisation. iam going to edit the admin screens (at the request of management) to fit the corporate look and feel (corporate at an educational institute? that's a dif topic though) and wanted to see what other people have done. Thanks and great software again. Luke Daly Systems Officer IT Infrastructure Newcastle University 17000

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fixed the To address problem now additional issues
by Mark Sapiro Sept. 3, 2007

Sept. 3, 2007

Mervyn Kahn wrote: > >Sending you an copy of the original as was sent to mailman in a separate e >mail and here are the headers of the received e mail. <snip> >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 >Precedence: list >Cc: "\[Epasella\] " <epasella(a)gmail.com> >List-Id: "\[Epasella\] " <epasella.gmail.com> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.epasella.biz/mailman/listinfo/epasella>, > <mailto:epasella-request@gmail.com?subject=unsubscribe> >… [View More]List-Archive: <http://lists.epasella.biz/mailman/private/epasella> >List-Help: <mailto:epasella-request@gmail.com?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://lists.epasella.biz/mailman/listinfo/epasella>, > <mailto:epasella-request@gmail.com?subject=subscribe> >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >boundary="===============3062302646177479864==" >To: info(a)epasella.com >Sender: epasella-bounces(a)gmail.com >Errors-To: epasella-bounces(a)gmail.com There are problems in your 'epasella' list configuration. The gmail.com domain in all the email addresses above comes from the list's host_name attribute on the General Options page. This should not be 'gmail.com'. It should be the domain to which list email (e.g. a post) is sent. Probably 'epasella.biz'. As far as the Cc: is concerned, I should have caught this earlier, but I was thrown off by the gmail.com domain. The "[Epasella] " part is the list's description attribute (on the General Options page), and the address <epasella(a)gmail.com> is what Mailman thinks is the list posting address. Again, the gmail.com domain comes from host_name. The reason this address appears as a Cc: is that it is no longer in the To: header because the list is fully personalized, and we want it to be somewhere in the headers so that the recipient can 'reply all' back to the list. In Mailman 2.1.5, you don't have much choice. We will not put the list posting address in a Cc: if reply_goes_to_list is set to 'This list', but this may be undesirable for many reasons. That's the only way to get rid of the Cc: completely for a fully personalized list without hacking the code. Beginning in Mailman 2.1.6, we also do not put the posting address in a Cc: for a fully personalized list if the list is anonymous (anonymous_list is Yes) since that already puts the posting address is From: and Reply-To:, but even an anonymous fully personalized list will get the Cc: in 2.1.5 unless reply_goes_to_list is set to 'This list'. -- Mark Sapiro <msapiro(a)value.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan [View Less]

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New User? Can I setup scheduled messages?
by toby＠4cws.com Sept. 3, 2007

Sept. 3, 2007

I am looking to see If i can setup a list and load it with messages to be sent to the users at scheduled days. Thanks.

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New user, need a bit of help.
by Sales - Import Auto Source Sept. 3, 2007

Sept. 3, 2007

First off, thanks in advance for any help that can be tossed my way. I am trying to get Mailman to work. Mailman is provided by my web host. I have followed their instructions, as well as much of the Mailman FAQ and setup as I can comprehend. (Fairly new to this stuff) The problem: The list doesn’t send out any messages. Anyhow, This is what happens. - setup new list (HYPERLINK "mailto:test@saskjunction.com"test(a)saskjunction.com just for testing, and … [View More]

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Comcast, Yahoo, Hotmail blocking us
by Michael Anderson Sept. 2, 2007

Sept. 2, 2007

Suddenly, these major ISP's were refusing our connections. We are not on their blacklists. This all started on one day. After a great deal of investigation by my sysadmin and my University IT guys we have come to the conclusion that it might have been caused by updating our mail gateway machine. We upgraded from an antiquated PIX to one that is lightening fast. Plus we upgraded our bandwidth at the same time. So, what is happening is we are delivering the mail so fast that these ISP's are … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Comcast, Yahoo, Hotmail blocking us
by Mark Sapiro Sept. 2, 2007

Sept. 2, 2007

Michael Anderson wrote: > >I can't imagine that sending one message at a time to 1500 users on a real >busy listserv would be a good idea.. Could it not really be slow? Well, you asked how to slow it down ... OTOH, it won't be that slow. If your MTA as as blinding fast as you say, I imagine that for moderate sized messages, say 10 KB, it would take well under a minute to deliver to the MTA. I don't know how many members are on the many lists at python.org, but many of these lists … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Aliases file and upgrading
by runner＠winning.com Sept. 1, 2007

Sept. 1, 2007

> 1) Is there any problem with manually adding the extra alias > owner-listname for each migrated list and > 2) Is is possible that mailman 2.1.9 is generating references to > owner-listname and if so, is that a problem? I just found the answer to question 1. If you add the alias manually it will be removed when you run mailman's genaliases command. I'm going to look at postfix's virtual aliasing capabilities to see if I can solve this. -- We've Got Your Name at http://www.… [View More]

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