Mailman 3 January 2008 - Mailman-Users

Question on cron.in and the init.d scripts in rpm file
by steve 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Hello all, setting up mailman on linux 2.6.9 where mailman was installed I believe by a rpm file. The question is about the cron job. The documentation says to install the contents of the supplied file into the cron job of the user mailman % cd $prefix/cron % crontab -u mailman crontab.in Upon doing so, I got error messages from the cron job when it ran /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The cron entry failing looks like this 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news The syntax didn't look right to me because, what was 'mailman' doing there at the start of the command? the shell setup by cron can not find the mailman executable because its not installed in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin . My install is into /usr/lib/mailman and /var/lib/mailman Mark Sapiro offers an explanation in this archived message from the list http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg43115.html Saying its due to a package setup and just remove 'mailman'. I can do that, but reading the actual crontab.in file supplied suggests that the cronjob is automatically setup and torn down by the init.d script # This file is copied to /etc/cron.d/mailman from # /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab.in when the mailman service is started via its # init.d script and the file /etc/cron.d/mailman is removed when the # service is stopped. Therefore any edits made directly to # /etc/cron.d/mailman will be lost anytime the mailman service # restarts. # # To make changes edit the master copy /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab.in and then # restart the service to pick up the changes (/sbin/service mailman restart). Ok - makes sense.. so I should edit the file in /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab.in and the script will update the actual cron job when the service is started.. So, I'll edit out mailman in /usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab.in - but is this something lacking in the documentation? I don't understand why the crontab.in file has that extra mailman in each of the lines of the crontab. Does it serve a purpose for other installation types? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Migrating and Upgrading
by Dave Warchol 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

I need to migrate a very old Red Hat (7.3) mailman 2.0.13 (postfix MTA 1.1.7) installation to a SuSE SLES 10 box running mailman 2.1.7, postfix 2.2.9. I have the new box working in "test mode", temporary name/IP. My goal is to keep the SLES installation "turn key" using the standard packages that come with the distro. The question is what is the best/easiest method to migrate the lists from the old to the new. One method I have considered would be "brute force" (a little labor intensive, a little heavier on the downtime, but doable): - dumping the metadata from the old lists (configuration, members, etc.) - bring the old server down - bring the new server up with the same name/IP - manually create the new lists - import the members for each list The only unknown is how to move the archives. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Dave

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fix_url script changes both web_page_url and host_name values
by Dan Mashal 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Is there any way to change only one at a time (i.e. only the web_page_url) value while using the withlist/fix_url script? For example I have the list using xxx.com but the list is hosted on mailman.yyy.com. How would I have a url host of mailman.yyy.com with the list using a hostname of xxx.com? Thanks, Dan

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no dupes across lists?
by Gruver, Sandi 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Does the 'no dupes' option mean that members will not receive a messages sent to more than one list to which they are subscribed? Thank you, S Gruver Unix system administrator Center for Information Services Bellevue, WA 98004 phone 425.803.9753 fax 425.803.9652

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Cron jobs
by Melinda Gilmore 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

I keep getting this message from some cron jobs run. And I have looked at the permissions for the list it is referring to, but cannot seem to fix the problem. Can anyone point me in the right direction Your "cron" job on lists /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 87, in main mlist.Save() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 557, in Save self.__save(dict) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 512, in __save fp = open(fname_tmp, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/sis_directors/config.pck.tmp.lists.12634' Melinda Gilmore Systems Engineer The Ohio State University Enterprise Messaging/OIT 614-292-4953

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List of Mailing Lists
by Didier Trosset 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Hello, I am having a problem in the page that shows the list of publicly available lists: mailman/listinfo. It does not show the 9 lists that exists. All 9 are working correctly, and are marked as public. It shows either 8 of them, or the last 1 that I created. It changes between showing 8 and showing 1 when I change the configuration in the lists. If I change something in one of the 8, the next page update of mailman/listinfo will show the 8. If I change something in the latest list, the next page update of mailman/listinfo show only this latest list. And the mailman/admin page behaves the same. One big change occurs before I created the last one: I changed the domainname (the hostname remains the same) of the system. I launched full searchs on the mailman lists directory, trying to guess some difference in the configuration, but didn't notice anything. The *.pck files didn't show anything related to the domainname. What can I do now for the mailman/listinfo page to always show my 9 lists? Thanks Didier -- Didier Trosset-Moreau Acqiris Operations Agilent Technologies Geneva, Switzerland

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unsubscribed users to post on a mailing list
by Ilin Tatabitovski 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

hi, is it possible to configure mailman to receive by default (without sending bounce notification mail) all mails sent to a certain mailing list by unsubscribed users? i am using hostmonster.com hosting and they offer mailman. now i need to have one account that will be used like info@... or contact@... that more users should monitor. thanks ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Postfix mysql mailman
by mattias 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

How to use mailman if i run postfix with mysql?

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mass subscribing and puting users either no mail or digest
by Sarah 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

I'm just curious. I know how to mass subscribe but is there a way to mass subscribe a group of people to receive digest mail? Thanks Sarah Alawami MSN: chellist(a)hotmail.com skype: marrie1 Website; www.marrie.org To check out my podcast go to http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast check out http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

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"raising a string exception is deprecated"?
by David Gibbs 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

I just upgraded to Fedora 8, which includes Python 2.5.1, and started noticing this error cropping up: /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py:512: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated raise quickexit Is this something I should be concerned with? Particularly the "raise quickexit" has be a bit worried ... is the process that is being executed completing? The above message was encountered when the checkdbs cronjob was running. david -- "The universe doesn't care what you believe. The wonderful thing about science is that it doesn't ask for your faith, it just asks for your eyes" --- http://xkcd.com/c154.html

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