Mailman 3 February 2008 - Mailman-Users

bug in Mailman 2.1.4
by Myron Kowalski 14 Feb '08

14 Feb '08

One of my users sent me this message that he got when he tried to approve a message to his list. As far as I can tell, all my other lists, including his, are working well. Any help on what I should be looking for? Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/users/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/users/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 166, in main if not mlist.NumRequestsPending(): File "/users/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 147, in NumRequestsPending self.__opendb() File "/users/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 82, in __opendb self.__db = marshal.load(fp) MemoryError Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.3.4 (#1, Aug 2 2004, 10:16:43) [GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (release)] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform sunos5 Environment variables: Variable Value HTTP_COOKIE net-avengers + admin = 2802000000699b27b247732800000066376664306131653934353533313666613036633137393832326530376136386137346331643666 SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/2.0.53 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10 mod_perl/1.999.20 Perl/v5.8.5 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admindb SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/2.0.53 (Unix) PHP/4.3.10 mod_perl/1.999.20 Perl/v5.8.5 Server at www.cs.moravian.edu Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD GET HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.0 QUERY_STRING HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20080128 Firefox/2.0.0.11 TZ US/Eastern HTTP_REFERER http://www.cs.moravian.edu/mailman/admin/net-avengers/members SERVER_NAME www.cs.moravian.edu REMOTE_ADDR 209.60.99.177 HTTP_VIA 1.1 coventry.corbesero.com:3128 (squid/2.5.STABLE14) PATH_TRANSLATED /users/cs/public_html/net-avengers SERVER_PORT 80 SERVER_ADDR 204.186.194.17 DOCUMENT_ROOT /users/cs/public_html PYTHONPATH /users/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /users/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb SERVER_ADMIN webmaster(a)cs.moravian.edu HTTP_HOST www.cs.moravian.edu HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL max-age=259200 REQUEST_URI /mailman/admindb/net-avengers HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR 192.168.201.31 REMOTE_PORT 2740 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us,en;q=0.5 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip,deflate PATH_INFO /net-avengers --myron ================================= Myron Kowalski MoCoSIN Network/Systems Administrator Moravian College myron(a)cs.moravian.edu

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Configure mailman for hosted e-mail...
by Dov Oxenberg 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Hi, Our new web site and e-mail are currently being hosted by Network Solutions. In our office I have a machine running Debian Lenny (stable) which at the moment is exclusively a fax Server but I am considering installing the Mailman package if I am confident I can get it to work in my scenario. Being our e-mail is being hosted by Network Solutions, how would I go about configuring this machine to act as a List Server associated with our Domain name? In other words, this Debian box is running in our office with a DSL connection to the Internet. Our mail is being hosted by Network Solutions. How can I make the Network Solutions mail Serve "aware" of my list Server? Thanks! Dov

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RFC: X-Archive header fields
by Richard Hartmann 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone would think X-Archive-Thread and X-Archive-Mail would make sense. They could point the user to the permanent archive location of both the thread and the email they are reading. This would be useful beyond mailing lists, for example ticket systems could use this as well. Has this been done and abandoned? Is this viable? Would _you_ want to use it? And yes, I am aware of the possible abuse for spam if this were widely implemented. Whitelists and other mechanisms could help there, though. Best regards, Richard P.S.: I am not fixed on those names, they just make sense, to me.

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smtp-failure: 'Addres family was not recognized or address length wasinvalid'
by Rameš Vladislav 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Hi, I tried to run mailman 2.1.9 with postfix 2.0.16 on Alpha TRU64 UNIX 5.1A. Unfortunately, when I tried to subscribe to my test conference, I got this errors to smtp-failure file: ... Feb 12 16:57:08 2008 (250559) delivery to root[at]t2.pvt.cz failed with code -1: (5, 'Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid.') Feb 12 16:57:08 2008 (250559) Low level smtp error: (5, 'Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid.'), msgid: <mailman.292.1202831704.250529.mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz> Feb 12 16:57:08 2008 (250559) delivery to root[at]t2.pvt.cz failed with code -1: (5, 'Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid.') Feb 12 17:00:02 2008 (250559) Low level smtp error: (5, 'Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid.'), msgid: <mailman.293.1202832001.250529.mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz> ... In Postfix maillog subscriptions looks like "send": ... t2.pvt.cz# tail mail.log Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/pickup[256660]: 5411D4DE: uid=0 from=<root> Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/cleanup[256788]: 5411D4DE: message-id=<20080213080500.5411D4DE[at]t2.pvt.cz> Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/qmgr[250778]: 5411D4DE: from=<root[at]t2.pvt.cz>, size=346, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Feb 13 09:05:00 t2 postfix/local[256800]: warning: dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled Feb 13 09:05:01 t2 postfix/local[256800]: 5411D4DE: to=<mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman") Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/pickup[256660]: B1DA54DE: uid=0 from=<root> Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/cleanup[256817]: B1DA54DE: message-id=<20080213081000.B1DA54DE[at]t2.pvt.cz> Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/qmgr[250778]: B1DA54DE: from=<root[at]t2.pvt.cz>, size=346, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Feb 13 09:10:00 t2 postfix/local[256815]: warning: dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled Feb 13 09:10:01 t2 postfix/local[256815]: B1DA54DE: to=<mailman[at]t2.pvt.cz>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman") ... When I tried mailman with sendmail, result was the same (the same error messages in smtp-failure file). Sending and receiving e-mails to/from users on this server (t2.pvt.cz) works properly. I tried to find in conferences error message "Addres family was not recognized or address length was invalid." with "mailman", but withouth usable result. What I doing wrong, have you any tips, please? Vladislav Rameš ASSECO Czech Republic, a.s.

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Sending MovableType notifications via Mailman
by Eric Lee 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

I've read about this in several places on the web and have nearly got it working - but am missing a vital piece of the puzzle. MovableType (blogging software) sends out Notifications using BCC. I have put the address for my Mailman list as the sole subscriber to the Notification List. But when I send out a message, even though I receive a copy as the Mailman list owner, it doesn't go for moderation and isn't sent to the list. When I do the same thing from an email client -- sending out a message via BCC to my Mailman list, coming from the same address (which is the list administrator address anyway), everything works fine. In Mailman, I've set the "require_explicit_destination" setting to "No" which allows BCC'd messages to come through, and I'm using the same 'From' address in both cases. So why is Mailman treating one (sent via the email client) as a submission to the list, to be moderated, and the other (sent to the same address via MovableType) isn't treated this way. What could be the difference? Thanks very much. Eric Lee -- Phone: +44 7 846658571 or +44 2083461953 Email: ericlee(a)labourstart.org Skype: erictlee Web: http://www.labourstart.org Blog: http://www.ericlee.info

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Mailman and Groupwise
by Adam Gabriel 12 Feb '08

12 Feb '08

Greetings all! Will mailman function with Groupwise as an MTA? I'm not too clear as to how mailman communicates with the mta, so I couldn't see an obvious way of doing this (Any docs for a non-python coder that might elaborate?). I want to run a list on my groupwise mailserver (I want to avoid another whole box if I can) but I don't think I could make 2 MTAs live on the same boxes nicely. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance: Adam

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bounce file questions
by Steve Lindemann 12 Feb '08

12 Feb '08

I have two questions... I've looked at the FAQ and can't find the answer. Not to say it isn't there but searching on the string "bounce" I didn't see an answer to either question. 1) Is it safe to delete a file hung up in mailman/qfiles/bounces? I have one -rw-rw---- 1 nobody mailman 3751 Jan 2 07:02 1199282543.316215+a0fe738c4585516ea7c4b848e2a18442fc616c5c.bak that I think I can delete (contents are spam anyway) 2) Is it safe to delete a file "bounce-events-*.pck" hung up in mailman/data? I have one -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 5764 Jan 24 00:00 bounce-events-03252.pck that isn't going away. I've watched the directory and other bounce-events files have appeared and disappeared (eventually). Just out of curiosity I checked the logs and: # grep 1199282543.316215 /var/log/mailman/* error.3:Jan 02 07:02:23 2008 (3252) Ignoring unparseable message: 1199282543.316215+a0fe738c4585516ea7c4b848e2a18442fc616c5c error.3:Jan 24 08:08:10 2008 (3281) Ignoring unparseable message: 1199282543.316215+a0fe738c4585516ea7c4b848e2a18442fc616c5c I'm assuming (and all that entails) that it is safe to simply delete these files, but wanted to check with anyone smarter about mailman than I'm likely to ever be first. Thanks! -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:steve@marmot.org voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 116 fax: +1.970.245.7854

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mailman lists migration
by eras mus 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

how to migrate lists from one mailman version to another

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Pending messages disappeared from admindb
by Matthew Saltzman 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

I use mailman-2.1.9-2 from RHEL5. I was renaming a list according to the instructions in the FAQ. The last step there refers to moving pending requests in the qfiles directory, which doesn't appear to apply in 2.1.9. But in trying to figure out if there was anything I did need to do, I renamed the files /var/lib/mailman/data/heldmsg-oldlist-*.pck to heldmsg-newlist-*.pck, then renamed them back to their original names. After the first rename, the messages appeared in the admindb screen, but only the sender addresses appeared for each message. After the second rename, the messages disappeared from the admindb screen altogether. I checked another renamed list, and without renaming the held messages, they all appeared in the new admindb screen. So I guess the right action would have been not to rename. But now that it's done, how can I restore the pending messages in the first list so they appear in the admindb screen? Thanks. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Mathematical Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

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Needs help during tranisition
by Visvanath Ratnaweera 10 Feb '08

10 Feb '08

Hi all I did a whacky transistion form an old installation to a new one. The old installation is only available as files (no running Mailman), since a hard dist crashed and we were left with bare data. I did a straightforward transition roughly as described in http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-January/055208.html Now when I visit http://OURHOST/mailman/admin/OURLIST and enter password, I get --- Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. --- This is the error log (the listname and host name were replaced manually by OURLIST and OURHOST): --- Feb 02 23:15:27 2008 (12889) Failed config.pck write, retaining old state. [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/OURLIST/config.pck.tmp.OURHOST.12889' Feb 02 23:15:27 2008 admin(12889): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(12889): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] admin(12889): [----- Traceback ------] admin(12889): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(12889): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(12889): main() admin(12889): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 199, in mai n admin(12889): mlist.Save() admin(12889): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 561, in Save admin(12889): self.__save(dict) admin(12889): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 516, in __sa ve admin(12889): fp = open(fname_tmp, 'w') admin(12889): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/OURLIST/config.pck.tmp.dskt6990.12889' admin(12889): [----- Python Information -----] admin(12889): sys.version = 2.5.1 (r251:54863, May 4 2007, 16:52:23) [GCC 4.1.2] admin(12889): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(12889): sys.prefix = /usr admin(12889): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(12889): sys.path = /usr admin(12889): sys.platform = linux2 --- Any help appreciated. Visvanath

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