Mailman 3 June 2008 - Mailman-Users

Size limit on messages sent to maillist
by Bill Honneus (honneus) June 23, 2008

June 23, 2008

Hi, One of our list subscribers received the following message: Your mail to 'my-list' with the subject RE: [my-list] FW: registering application Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 157187 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. Is there a way to configure the mailing list so that we can set our own limits … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing questions (feature, or bug?)
by b19141＠anl.gov June 21, 2008

June 21, 2008

Hank van Cleef <vancleef(a)lostwells.net> wrote, in part, >The background scenario is that I have been experiencing the "now you >see it/now you don't" big-consumer-internet mail service spam >blocking. This week it is Verizon.net. > >Basically, mail to verizon.net addresses failed and bounced for a 24 >hour period on the 12th. Service appeared to have been restored on >the 13th. Again, yesterday (the 18th), Verizon quit receiving mail >again. The log … [View More]message being shown by sendmail is of the the form: > >Jun 19 10:49:00 julie sendmail[16973]: [ID 801593 mail.info] >m5JGmxNk016971: to=<customer(a)verizon.net>, >ctladdr=<vancleef(a)julie.lostwells.net> (101/10), delay=00:00:00, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=121428, relay=relay.verizon.net. >[206.46.232.11], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable > >For the four days June 13-17, mail went verizon.net normally, >dsn-2.0.0, stat=Sent > >Two Verizon users have contacted me and told me that they had received >no mail from our list since the 11th; that they had contacted Verizon >support, and had been told that Verizon was not blocking or dumping >our list mails. Both users are sufficiently knowledgeable to have >looked for shunting to a "spam" or "bulk" file. I wrote a private >e-mail to one user giving log details for him to use. That e-mail >bounced back sky high, and the bounce message made clear that Verizon >has a spam block on my IP. The log message was another dsn=5.0.0 >stat=Service unavailable. It seems to me that stat=Service unavailable means that the inbound mailer is not available at the moment. This should result in a 400-level SMTP retryable reject, not a 500-level hard reject. The statement "Verizon was not blocking or dumping our list mails" is technically a correct statement; Verizon is not accepting mail. Another thought comes to mind - when this happens, is Verizon rejecting all mail, or is that mailer selectively not accepting mail? If Verizon is selectively rejecting mail, then I would expect a different message than dsn=5.0.0 stat=Service unavailable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 [View Less]

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HELP
by John Lieber June 21, 2008

June 21, 2008

I recently moved to a new server. I did a new install, setup everything and it's all working great. I went to import my 'old' member list via the web interface, only I forgot to select the radio button to NOT notify the members of their subscription. How do I kill the mail that is trying to be sent out? Right now I shutdown postfix/mailman and even the network adapter. I really don't want to deal with the 'hundreds' of emails from the members asking if they have been subscribed to '… [View More]

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Admin and email
by Melinda Gilmore June 20, 2008

June 20, 2008

I have screwed up my mailman somehow that when I sent an email to a individual account on the server (spot) the mail is going to me (gilmore.126 instead of the spot account. Is it possible there is some mailman config that you can change an address that this could have happened. I know I was fooling around with the server, and was wonderng if it is possible that I messaed up the site admin address. Does anyone know where that setting is? Mindy Melinda Gilmore Systems Engineer The Ohio … [View More]

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statics
by Jesús Rivas June 20, 2008

June 20, 2008

anyone have a statics of how many message per hour send. a like to migrate to mailman but i need static for that thanks -- Saludos!!! Jesus Alonso Rivas Sistemas _____________________________________ Evangelización Activa Comunicación Digital al Servicio del Evangelio www.evangelizacion.org.mx

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moderate to sender?
by Karen R McArthur June 20, 2008

June 20, 2008

If a person is a member of a certain List (Staff, for example) and sends a message which may need moderation - is there a way to send that SENDER the moderator message instead of the administrator or moderator? The purpose of this that we want some of our constituencies to be able to diagnose and fix their own email (if the message is too long, either shorten it and resubmit or find another method of distribution). However, if the person is not in the Staff list, the moderation should … [View More]

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Authorization required with FireFox 3
by Sascha Schmidt June 20, 2008

June 20, 2008

Hi, yesterday, 2 days after the release of FireFox 3 I'm trying to login to my mailman 2.1.10 installation. After entering the correct password the errormessage "Authorization failed" is shown. Deleting the Browser Cache/Cookies didn't fix the problem. There's no problem logging in with Firefox 2 and IE. Someone can reproduce this behaviour? Greets, Sascha

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Calling all Mailman consultants
by Barry Warsaw June 20, 2008

June 20, 2008

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, I get asked all the time: will you set up my lists for pay? I'm not interested or able to do this kind of work, but I always feel bad about turning people away without some pointers to other people. I've started a wiki page for those of you who might be interested in picking up some of this business. http://wiki.list.org/display/COM/Mailman+consulting+services This is different than the Mailman hosting page, but if you do … [View More]

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GPLv3
by Barry Warsaw June 20, 2008

June 20, 2008

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As you know, GNU Mailman has been an official GNU project for almost its entire life. As such, our project receives certain benefits and has certain responsibilities. One of our responsibilities is to adopt the standard GNU licensing regime. This aligns with our goals for the project and so we do it gladly. Last year, the Free Software Foundation released a significant update to the venerable GNU General Public License, called version … [View More]

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Bounce processing questions (feature, or bug?)
by Hank van Cleef June 19, 2008

June 19, 2008

The background scenario is that I have been experiencing the "now you see it/now you don't" big-consumer-internet mail service spam blocking. This week it is Verizon.net. Basically, mail to verizon.net addresses failed and bounced for a 24 hour period on the 12th. Service appeared to have been restored on the 13th. Again, yesterday (the 18th), Verizon quit receiving mail again. The log message being shown by sendmail is of the the form: Jun 19 10:49:00 julie sendmail[16973]: [ID 801593 … [View More]mail.info] m5JGmxNk016971: to=<customer(a)verizon.net>, ctladdr=<vancleef(a)julie.lostwells.net> (101/10), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=121428, relay=relay.verizon.net. [206.46.232.11], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable For the four days June 13-17, mail went verizon.net normally, dsn-2.0.0, stat=Sent Two Verizon users have contacted me and told me that they had received no mail from our list since the 11th; that they had contacted Verizon support, and had been told that Verizon was not blocking or dumping our list mails. Both users are sufficiently knowledgeable to have looked for shunting to a "spam" or "bulk" file. I wrote a private e-mail to one user giving log details for him to use. That e-mail bounced back sky high, and the bounce message made clear that Verizon has a spam block on my IP. The log message was another dsn=5.0.0 stat=Service unavailable. I decided to change the bounce processing so that if this "Service unavailable" bouncing continued into a second day, the affected Verizon users would get bounce-trapped, and I'd see the triggering bounce messages. Accordingly I changed: Bounce score from 3.0 to 2.0 Discard period from 2 to 4 days Number of warnings from 3 to 2 Notification interval left at 7 days I've just double checked to be sure that the numbers in the window are 2.0, 4, 2, and 7. This did exactly what I wanted, and I've got about thirty bounce messages showing 5.7.1 security bounces, some of which I've forwarded (via another IP) to affected Verizon users for their use in dealing with the ISP. However, I've also gotten about fifty other bounce disables on the 2.0 score. Some investigation shows that affected users had accumulated two bounces several months ago, but none since. From what I see in the bounce logs still in my rotation, it appears that the bounce processor did not sense that these bounces were very stale (over 90 days, when I've specified 4), but simply operated on my reducing the score from 3.0 to 2.0. A couple of users have forwarded back the bounce e-mail they received and have noted the "last bounce dates" in March-April. Mailman version is 2.1.9, local build with Python 2.4.3 on Solaris 9. Hank [View Less]

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